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Title: Road tax.
Post by: amigov6 on 30 January 2009, 22:38:59
Beastie not ready yet, 328i Coupe has bags of grunt but won't grip in anything but dry weather even in a straight line in 2nd & is going on ebay soon. So given that we're off to Newark autojumble on Sunday, decided to tax the Cortina which is running sweet as a nut (51000 mls) still mot'd & insured & take her there. Went to DVLA online but only option was to start disc from 1st jan, can't start from 1st feb.
      Off to local p.o tomorrow morning armed with relevant docs & cash to buy a hand written disc the old fashioned way. Why can't i do that online? :-?
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Vamps on 31 January 2009, 00:24:48
When did the tax run out? if it was sorn then you can not tax till the 1st, poss last day, of the month on line. ::) been there. :y
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 08:35:35
Its still January today (sat) and so disc will be issued from the first Jan.  You cannot buy a disc in advance if the vehicle is currently untaxed.  Been that way for years, not just since it was available online....    :(
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Andy B on 31 January 2009, 10:08:32
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Its still January today (sat) and so disc will be issued from the first Jan.  You cannot buy a disc in advance if the vehicle is currently untaxed.  Been that way for years, not just since it was available online....    :(

You used to be able to. SWMBO used to work in the LVLO in Pompey, you could pay for it from the following month, but they'd post it to you if the start date was so many days away.
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Andy B on 31 January 2009, 10:13:27
I think Alzheimers is setting in with me. I had to tax mine on line as I couldn't find my insurance policy. Seached everywhere for it, but I did find the proof of NCD from the previous insurer that I was sure I'd passed on. When I phoned my current insurer to ask ...... that's why I couldn't find it, I sent them current policy & not the proof of NCD!  :-[  :-[  :-[  :-[
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: webby23 on 31 January 2009, 12:34:15
Do it online early tomrw before you leave and you are covered immediately and bcos tomws Feb 1st you dont lose anything......
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: nick v6 on 31 January 2009, 12:42:54
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Do it online early tomrw before you leave and you are covered immediately and bcos tomws Feb 1st you dont lose anything......

if you do the car tax online and drive the car without showing a valid tax disc cant you get done for it

do you have to wait for the tax disc to arrive before you can drive the car
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: webby23 on 31 January 2009, 12:53:38
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Do it online early tomrw before you leave and you are covered immediately and bcos tomws Feb 1st you dont lose anything......

if you do the car tax online and drive the car without showing a valid tax disc cant you get done for it

do you have to wait for the tax disc to arrive before you can drive the car

Simple answer.................NO!!

there was an ad on the radio yesterday for road tax saying how easy it is and once it is paid for you are covered immediately.
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: webby23 on 31 January 2009, 12:55:36
The Police or  Traffic wardens must therefore be able to check via computer link whether or not the car is taxed regardless of the fact that you havent received the disc yet.

For further info check the DVLA website mate but honestly, you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: nick v6 on 31 January 2009, 13:03:05
i only asked the question as a copper i used to know used to say it ws a offence to not display a valid tax disc
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: ian6pot on 31 January 2009, 13:04:01
Did the offence used to be NOT DISPLAYING A VALID TAX as opposed to not acctually having one.

Granted things may have changed
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: nick v6 on 31 January 2009, 13:06:56
not sure how the law stands now
but you always get 1 smart copper that never keeps up to date with the aws and books you for nothing
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 13:33:49
Been covered several times recently...

An offence not to have a disc, seperate offence not to display one.

Covers situation where there is a current disc, but its face down on the floor and TW cannot see it and so issues a ticket.

Taxing online is fine, as far as it goes, but you are still liable for a ticket for failing to display a disc if its 'in the post', Rodders....  :y
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: waspy on 31 January 2009, 13:47:17
Cut out a little circle of white paper & write on it "tax in post" like we used to :D ;D
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Jimbob on 31 January 2009, 15:43:53
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Been covered several times recently...

An offence not to have a disc, seperate offence not to display one.

Covers situation where there is a current disc, but its face down on the floor and TW cannot see it and so issues a ticket.

Taxing online is fine, as far as it goes, but you are still liable for a ticket for failing to display a disc if its 'in the post', Rodders....  :y


Not any more, providing you have a receipt from the last day of the month, you have 5 days grace, has recently changed iirc.  Think it was when they let you buy tax from the 5th instead of the 14th, trying to encourage more to do it online I think.
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Jimbob on 31 January 2009, 15:45:30
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Been covered several times recently...

An offence not to have a disc, seperate offence not to display one.

Covers situation where there is a current disc, but its face down on the floor and TW cannot see it and so issues a ticket.

Taxing online is fine, as far as it goes, but you are still liable for a ticket for failing to display a disc if its 'in the post', Rodders....  :y


Not any more, providing you have a receipt from the last day of the month, you have 5 days grace, has recently changed iirc.  Think it was when they let you buy tax from the 5th instead of the 14th, trying to encourage more to do it online I think.

here it is....
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10034732
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: HGV mechanic on 31 January 2009, 15:58:05
a question i have,,, can i tax a vehicle (and pay only a years duty), that i have bought, with no tax, and has not been sorned for a few months, or do i have to pay th amount it ows since last tax ran out?

TIA
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 16:10:42
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Been covered several times recently...

An offence not to have a disc, seperate offence not to display one.

Covers situation where there is a current disc, but its face down on the floor and TW cannot see it and so issues a ticket.

Taxing online is fine, as far as it goes, but you are still liable for a ticket for failing to display a disc if its 'in the post', Rodders....  :y


Not any more, providing you have a receipt from the last day of the month, you have 5 days grace, has recently changed iirc.  Think it was when they let you buy tax from the 5th instead of the 14th, trying to encourage more to do it online I think.

here it is....
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/HowToTaxYourVehicle/DG_10034732

That only applies if you are displaying the disc that expired at the end of the previous month, eg expiring 31/01/2009, 5 days for new one to arrive in post so exempt until 5th/6th Feb.  

If no disc on display (or lying face down on the floor/dash) then a ticket is still issued......
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 16:12:26
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a question i have,,, can i tax a vehicle (and pay only a years duty), that i have bought, with no tax, and has not been sorned for a few months, or do i have to pay th amount it ows since last tax ran out?

TIA

You would only be liable back until the date of the receipt you got when you purchased the car.   If its registered to you already then, liable back until date of aquisition, potentially with a failing to SORN fine as well, as far as I understand things.
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Entwood on 31 January 2009, 16:14:52
I believe this explains all ... :)

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You can renew your tax any day from the fifth day of the month.

If you prefer to tax in the last few days of the month, there is now an exemption from the offence of not displaying a tax disc. This exemption covers the first five working days of the month and allows time for the new disc to arrive in the post.

The exemption only applies if applications are made before the current tax disc or SORN expires.

HTH ..:)
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 16:18:47
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I believe this explains all ... :)

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You can renew your tax any day from the fifth day of the month.

If you prefer to tax in the last few days of the month, there is now an exemption from the offence of not displaying a tax disc. This exemption covers the first five working days of the month and allows time for the new disc to arrive in the post.

The exemption only applies if applications are made before the current tax disc or SORN expires.

HTH ..:)

Exactly...  You still need to display the recently expired disc.  Its the only way that continuity - no breaks in taxation or SORN - are confirmed.....
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: amigov6 on 31 January 2009, 16:40:25
I thought since online taxing failure to display had finished as cameras can tell as can traffic wardens looking at a parked car with thier tech2 gameboy gizmo. Either way went to local P.O. this morning armed with relevant doccies & came away with a hand written disc (like in the old days).
   Starts @ midnight so we can take the retro cortina mobile to Newark auto jumble tomorrow. Looking forward to it, cracking day out.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa42/dogsdinner44/2008_0907Tina0002-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: HGV mechanic on 31 January 2009, 17:46:26
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a question i have,,, can i tax a vehicle (and pay only a years duty), that i have bought, with no tax, and has not been sorned for a few months, or do i have to pay th amount it ows since last tax ran out?

TIA

You would only be liable back until the date of the receipt you got when you purchased the car.   If its registered to you already then, liable back until date of aquisition, potentially with a failing to SORN fine as well, as far as I understand things.

to through a spanner in the works, the v5 has supposedly been sent away . but a month later still nothing,so what im thinking is if i send away for another v5, and then sorn?
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 18:30:14
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I thought since online taxing failure to display had finished as cameras can tell as can traffic wardens looking at a parked car with thier tech2 gameboy gizmo. Either way went to local P.O. this morning armed with relevant doccies & came away with a hand written disc (like in the old days).
   Starts @ midnight so we can take the retro cortina mobile to Newark auto jumble tomorrow. Looking forward to it, cracking day out.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa42/dogsdinner44/2008_0907Tina0002-1.jpg)

Sounds like you got a result Guy.  Glad someone at the PO saw sense....   :y
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: hotel21 on 31 January 2009, 18:32:20
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a question i have,,, can i tax a vehicle (and pay only a years duty), that i have bought, with no tax, and has not been sorned for a few months, or do i have to pay th amount it ows since last tax ran out?

TIA

You would only be liable back until the date of the receipt you got when you purchased the car.   If its registered to you already then, liable back until date of aquisition, potentially with a failing to SORN fine as well, as far as I understand things.

to through a spanner in the works, the v5 has supposedly been sent away . but a month later still nothing,so what im thinking is if i send away for another v5, and then sorn?

Might be better to go into your nearest LVLO and see what the state of play is, rather than sendng for another V5.  You might have to pay for that....   :-/
Title: Re: Road tax.
Post by: Tony H on 31 January 2009, 19:03:21
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I thought since online taxing failure to display had finished as cameras can tell as can traffic wardens looking at a parked car with thier tech2 gameboy gizmo. Either way went to local P.O. this morning armed with relevant doccies & came away with a hand written disc (like in the old days).
   Starts @ midnight so we can take the retro cortina mobile to Newark auto jumble tomorrow. Looking forward to it, cracking day out.
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa42/dogsdinner44/2008_0907Tina0002-1.jpg)
Ah that brings back memories Guy car colour Ford dysentry beige! :D ;)