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Title: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: MV6Matt on 08 February 2009, 19:29:21
Saw bits of the England game, but turned off when I realised I was terribly sorry old boy, I am a little tireding so much............(Do we have a sleeping smilie?)

Wales by how many points?

Matthew
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: STMO123 on 08 February 2009, 19:41:36
They wont get beaten as badly as the cricket team...surely? ;D
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: HGV mechanic on 08 February 2009, 20:00:38
no chance england will win , ;)
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Big Bri on 08 February 2009, 20:18:43
hope it will be good close  game and wales to win by 3 points :y
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: MV6Matt on 08 February 2009, 20:23:28
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hope it will be good close  game and wales to win by 3 points :y

Blimey - you think it'll be that close? That's generous from someone living in Swansea!

Cant see England standing up to close scrutiny of any kind and Wales will be giving them a stern examination I imagine.

Didn't see the game today but understand Mr Gatlan ain't happy

Matthew
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Plomien on 08 February 2009, 21:06:59
If England play as they did against Italy then Wales will win, but if they buck their ideas up and play properly it could go either way,

Yes I live in Swansea but I was born and brought up on the other side of the bridge ;)

Oh and Big Bri where in Swansea are you?
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Turk on 08 February 2009, 21:26:19
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hope it will be good close  game and wales to win by 3 points :y

Blimey - you think it'll be that close? That's generous from someone living in Swansea!

Cant see England standing up to close scrutiny of any kind and Wales will be giving them a stern examination I imagine.

Didn't see the game today but understand Mr Gatlan ain't happy
Matthew

:-?  He seems quite pleased according to this:
http://msnsport.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12507_4906123,00.html

As for England this season, Jonno was a superb player, but I don't think he's an international coach. It takes time to develop a team but the governing bodies don't usually see it that way. If they play the rest of the season like they did against Italy, he'll be out. Same sort of thing happened when we had Gareth Jenkins as the Welsh coach. He was excellent coach with the Scarlets, but not at international level.
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Big Bri on 08 February 2009, 21:33:59
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If England play as they did against Italy then Wales will win, but if they buck their ideas up and play properly it could go either way,

Yes I live in Swansea but I was born and brought up on the other side of the bridge ;)

Oh and Big Bri where in Swansea are you?

Hi Plomien I'm from Fforestfach
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: MV6Matt on 08 February 2009, 22:07:44
Hi Turk,

the Gatlan happiness thing was lazy browsing on the beeb site - didn't stop to look. No reason he shouldn't be happy, huh?

I can't see England getting their act together at all. Think it'll be another embarressment. :-/

Matthew

( Brian - love the Blue 'VXR' mig with the Vxr alloys. Nice idea!)
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Turk on 08 February 2009, 22:34:07
I can't see them turning things around enough myself either (or at least I bl**dy well hope not  ;D).  
Ok, we went from failing dismally in the World Cup to Grand Slam champions last season but an experienced coach makes all the difference. Jonno has only just embarked on a coaching career.
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: jerry on 08 February 2009, 23:17:49
Unfortunatly, cant see it myself. May have beaten Italy but only because they gifted us it. What is happening to our national teams? Cant say as I follow cricket at all but even I know that 51 or whatever it was is not good!!
                                                           jerry :(
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Hog on 09 February 2009, 08:17:53
Wales will win and even though I thought their game was pretty boring too, and France and Ireland look Ok this year, I can see them getting back to back slams.

France at home will be their test.

Sadly Johno is not the man for the job, we have some great talent in the side but still no direction or game plan, we need some proper leadership off and on the park at the moment and it's just not happening!

I did think that Wales looked like they have lost some of the flair and champagne rugby we've come to expect of late, the sin binning of the Scot was the key point in the game, but I fully expected a cricket score to follow, sadly for the Scots they only have 2 or 3 decent backs at the best.
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Plomien on 09 February 2009, 08:26:51
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If England play as they did against Italy then Wales will win, but if they buck their ideas up and play properly it could go either way,

Yes I live in Swansea but I was born and brought up on the other side of the bridge ;)

Oh and Big Bri where in Swansea are you?

Hi Plomien I'm from Fforestfach
Not far then I am up in Morriston  :y
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: chrisl_1960 on 09 February 2009, 18:14:02
as an ex player, and massive rugby fan, I have to agree with the doubt of Johnno's coaching credentials, but I also think he'll grow with what is essentially a young and inexperienced team, I don't think England will be up to much this year in the 6 nation's, but next year and in the run up to the next world cup, I think definaltely a side to be reckoned with, Johnno's passion will bring him through the early days
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: Turk on 09 February 2009, 20:31:29
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Wales will win and even though I thought their game was pretty boring too, and France and Ireland look Ok this year, I can see them getting back to back slams.

France at home will be their test.
Sadly Johno is not the man for the job, we have some great talent in the side but still no direction or game plan, we need some proper leadership off and on the park at the moment and it's just not happening!

I did think that Wales looked like they have lost some of the flair and champagne rugby we've come to expect of late, the sin binning of the Scot was the key point in the game, but I fully expected a cricket score to follow, sadly for the Scots they only have 2 or 3 decent backs at the best.

France have a habit of cracking under the pressure of a big game at home. I reckon it'll be Ireland that give the most trouble, but, we've still got this saturday to deal with and although England's "Italian Job" was not that inspiring...nothing can be taken for granted !
Title: Re: England to get taken apart by Wales next weekend?
Post by: MV6Matt on 09 February 2009, 20:42:39
Johnno was put in on a wave of overenthusiasm and as has been commented on here and on every other site that is dedicated to the subjuct, he has no experience as a manager to draw on. I think that the RFU has got the man they wanted, albeit one who was selected on the strength of his playing, not managing

The lack of a game plan (or so it would seem) or any kind of ability to get hold of the game (as demonstrated on saturday) is hard to ignore.
How much is down to Johnno and how much to the players aint clear to me.

As I said before I dont think England will be up to much on saturday - but who knows?

Hopefully Johnno and his squad will get better. I just think the light at the end of the tunnel is a bit of a distant dream at the moment.

Lets see what Saturday brings