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Title: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 19:19:49
I pay all the bills in our house and we use my Mr's money for spending on what we want.

I have managed to save an extra 266 quid over two months due to council tax is over 10 months.

However, i was at my mates today Bigheds and he lives in a really nice house in Stanmore. (bridgnorth)

This property of his is an old private estate in which used to be used as an RAF place!

His coucil Tax is somthing like 113 quid a month where as my Flat in a lower spec'd area is 133.50 a month!

My question is because Bighed is in a private location would this be Banded diffrently as im already in band "B"?

I just seem to think 133.50 is quite expensive.

A mate opposite me in same location is also paying 115.20, i feel ive been ripped off for the last 7 months or so?
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 February 2009, 19:28:51
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I pay all the bills in our house and we use my Mr's money for spending on what we want.

I have managed to save an extra 266 quid over two months due to council tax is over 10 months.

However, i was at my mates today Bigheds and he lives in a really nice house in Stanmore. (bridgnorth)

This property of his is an old private estate in which used to be used as an RAF place!

His coucil Tax is somthing like 113 quid a month where as my Flat in a lower spec'd area is 133.50 a month!

My question is because Bighed is in a private location would this be Banded diffrently as im already in band "B"?

I just seem to think 133.50 is quite expensive.


I live in a similar type of place but also have to pay an annual charge of £360 to a private management company. They re-banded our place from A to B and back dated it by 2 years! we now pay the equivalent of band E council tax :o :o >:( >:(

If your mates place is exactly comparable to yours then it's worth an appeal BUT be prepared for a long battle ::) ::)
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 19:30:37
Does the Tax go by council and Civil usage?

Is this how its branded?
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: waspy on 09 February 2009, 19:31:32
Talk to your neighbours & ask how much they pay, you could be paying too much, which should be back dated.
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 19:33:06
Yea its in my first post, my mate pays less than me but he lives in the "house" version to my flat although our place is bigger inside so i dont know if that would change anything??
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 09 February 2009, 19:33:55
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I pay all the bills in our house and we use my Mr's money for spending on what we want.

I have managed to save an extra 266 quid over two months due to council tax is over 10 months.

However, i was at my mates today Bigheds and he lives in a really nice house in Stanmore. (bridgnorth)

This property of his is an old private estate in which used to be used as an RAF place!

His coucil Tax is somthing like 113 quid a month where as my Flat in a lower spec'd area is 133.50 a month!

My question is because Bighed is in a private location would this be Banded diffrently as im already in band "B"?

I just seem to think 133.50 is quite expensive.


Thats probably why.......theres an ex RAF housing estate not far from me......house prices on the estate are considerably lower for the rest of the area.

It depends on the banding given for the estate back when council tax was introduced. I suspect the ex RAF will be lower band.  :y
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Lazydocker on 09 February 2009, 19:34:53
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Does the Tax go by council and Civil usage?

Is this how its branded?

Council tax banding is based on the value of your house in its current in April 1991... Crock of shite if you ask me and I'm afraid it's a very sore subject >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 February 2009, 19:35:24
think i pay £160 per month (over 10 months), seems a lot to have my bins emptied once a fornight....
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 19:37:37
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think i pay £160 per month (over 10 months), seems a lot to have my bins emptied once a fornight....


Just what i was thinking but i think its for Emergency services aswell ?
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: vauxfan2k on 09 February 2009, 19:41:00
£210 a month for my place, 5 bedroom house in a desirable area of town, so we are band H  :o

should probe be more but I kinda forgot to mention the garage when we built it lol
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: TheBoy on 09 February 2009, 19:43:03
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think i pay £160 per month (over 10 months), seems a lot to have my bins emptied once a fornight....


Just what i was thinking but i think its for Emergency services aswell ?
When we went to fornightly collections, I asked what this paid for. Miss Bimbo came back with:

Police (our station in town is part time - do I get discount)
Road repairs (ours is not adopted yet - do I get discount)
Verge grass cutting (I cut verge outside my house - do I get discount)
Library (Don't use it - do I get discount)

In the end, she agreed that I just had a very expensive rubbish collection...
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: HolyCount on 09 February 2009, 19:45:28
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Does the Tax go by council and Civil usage?

Is this how its branded?

Council tax banding is based on the value of your house in its current in April 1991... Crock of shite if you ask me and I'm afraid it's a very sore subject >:( >:( >:(


Yes, you are correct -- on both counts. It's a PITA for the Council Tax people too AFAIK -- but that's what Maggie brought in and what we are all stuck with for now!

If you are convinced you should be in a lower band it costs nothing to appeal --- might take a few months to get sorted, but will be back dated if you win.  BTW -- the appeal is dealt with by the Valuation Office ... they don't get the money so have no axe to grind if your bill is reduced! ( which is why they are doing it and not the councils).

Being ex MOD is very similar to ex council house -- in 1991 their values were artificially low -- hence low bands now.

The actual pounds and pence you pay ( as opposed to the band) will depend on how spendthrift your council is. Band c in a lot of London Boroughs pay less than a band c here, because 1) the boroughs are more careful with their money than our council is and 2) the population is more densely packed so more to share the bills between !!!
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 19:45:50
So realistically, my mate over the road should be around the same as me then?

Surly our apartment aint worth as much as an house?
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: HolyCount on 09 February 2009, 19:49:23
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£210 a month for my place, 5 bedroom house in a desirable area of town, so we are band H  :o

should probe be more but I kinda forgot to mention the garage when we built it lol

Building the garage or adding an extension during your ownership ( after 1993) won't alter the banding until the house is sold .... if you are band H you can't go any higher -- and unless you live in a mansion I would look into that !!!!!
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: ChevetteNick on 09 February 2009, 19:50:40
you'd probably succeed in getting everyone elses council tax increased if you appealed
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: HolyCount on 09 February 2009, 19:52:18
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So realistically, my mate over the road should be around the same as me then?

Surly our apartment aint worth as much as an house?

Difficult to say with flats -- values are silly compared to houses ---- new 2 bed flats on some developments here are going for around £300k, while a 2 bed house, new build, is around £170k ... crazy!!!  But ... if it's an older flat it should be worth less than a similar sized house nearby.
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: pscocoa on 09 February 2009, 19:52:55
If your mate lives alone or says he does to council then he will also get a reduction for single occupancy
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 09 February 2009, 20:03:00
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So realistically, my mate over the road should be around the same as me then?

Surly our apartment aint worth as much as an house?

Difficult to say with flats -- values are silly compared to houses ---- new 2 bed flats on some developments here are going for around £300k, while a 2 bed house, new build, is around £170k ... crazy!!!  But ... if it's an older flat it should be worth less than a similar sized house nearby.


Our place is 13-15 years old!

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image032.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0465.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0467.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0466.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0462.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image013.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image012.jpg)

Quite basic really but heres some pics , although its a little diffrent now.

But whilst were all on subject Lets see your Faverite Rooms guys!
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: albitz on 09 February 2009, 20:46:17
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think i pay £160 per month (over 10 months), seems a lot to have my bins emptied once a fornight....


Just what i was thinking but i think its for Emergency services aswell ?
When we went to fornightly collections, I asked what this paid for. Miss Bimbo came back with:

Police (our station in town is part time - do I get discount)
Road repairs (ours is not adopted yet - do I get discount)
Verge grass cutting (I cut verge outside my house - do I get discount)
Library (Don't use it - do I get discount)

In the end, she agreed that I just had a very expensive rubbish collection...
What they dont tell you is that 25% of council tax goes to pay for the pensions of council employees,and thats before you start taking wages into account. >:(
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: stuart30 on 09 February 2009, 21:55:09
Theres a section on http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ about having your council tax band looked at.

Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: HolyCount on 09 February 2009, 22:06:40
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Theres a section on http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ about having your council tax band looked at.


Be wary tho -- much of what he says is true -- some of it is crap!  Always remember, you are asking for a review -- a review can go up as well as down ! (It has happened).

Using the Nationwide index doesn't give you a true 1991 value --- this takes figures from Nationwide morgtage lending and is spread as an average across houses of all types, flats and bungalows --- I tried it with mine -- putting the same figures into Nationwide and then into Halifax gives wildly different values in 1991.
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: stuart30 on 09 February 2009, 22:16:09
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Theres a section on http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ about having your council tax band looked at.


Be wary tho -- much of what he says is true -- some of it is crap!  Always remember, you are asking for a review -- a review can go up as well as down ! (It has happened).

Using the Nationwide index doesn't give you a true 1991 value --- this takes figures from Nationwide morgtage lending and is spread as an average across houses of all types, flats and bungalows --- I tried it with mine -- putting the same figures into Nationwide and then into Halifax gives wildly different values in 1991.

Just another place too look maybe...get some advice ect.

Seems a knowledgeable bloke.
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Vamps on 09 February 2009, 22:22:30
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So realistically, my mate over the road should be around the same as me then?

Surly our apartment aint worth as much as an house?

Difficult to say with flats -- values are silly compared to houses ---- new 2 bed flats on some developments here are going for around £300k, while a 2 bed house, new build, is around £170k ... crazy!!!  But ... if it's an older flat it should be worth less than a similar sized house nearby.


Our place is 13-15 years old!

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image032.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0465.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0467.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0466.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0462.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image013.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image012.jpg)

Quite basic really but heres some pics , although its a little diffrent now.

But whilst were all on subject Lets see your Faverite Rooms guys!

You got no kids then ::) ::) ::) Can't keep a house that clean and tidy if you do.......... :-X
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: HolyCount on 09 February 2009, 22:23:32
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Theres a section on http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ about having your council tax band looked at.


Be wary tho -- much of what he says is true -- some of it is crap!  Always remember, you are asking for a review -- a review can go up as well as down ! (It has happened).

Using the Nationwide index doesn't give you a true 1991 value --- this takes figures from Nationwide morgtage lending and is spread as an average across houses of all types, flats and bungalows --- I tried it with mine -- putting the same figures into Nationwide and then into Halifax gives wildly different values in 1991.

Just another place too look maybe...get some advice ect.

Seems a knowledgeable bloke.

He seems to know his stuff -- but does tend to put his own slant on things -- after all he is a journalist!!!!!  The site tho gives good advice on many things financial
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 10 February 2009, 08:30:27
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So realistically, my mate over the road should be around the same as me then?

Surly our apartment aint worth as much as an house?

Difficult to say with flats -- values are silly compared to houses ---- new 2 bed flats on some developments here are going for around £300k, while a 2 bed house, new build, is around £170k ... crazy!!!  But ... if it's an older flat it should be worth less than a similar sized house nearby.


Our place is 13-15 years old!

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image032.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0465.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0467.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0466.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/IMAG0462.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image013.jpg)

(http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/reaudio/Image012.jpg)

Quite basic really but heres some pics , although its a little diffrent now.

But whilst were all on subject Lets see your Faverite Rooms guys!

You got no kids then ::) ::) ::) Can't keep a house that clean and tidy if you do.......... :-X



NOpe no kids lol  ;D
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 February 2009, 08:39:18
£187 per month here.....and we are supposed to have a cheap one!
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Jimbob on 10 February 2009, 09:05:37
You wanna move to Wales....
£105 here, and we get free prescriptions  ;D

All the sheep you can dream of....
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Christian on 10 February 2009, 17:23:16
LOL at all the sheep  ;D
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: tunnie on 10 February 2009, 17:36:41
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think i pay £160 per month (over 10 months), seems a lot to have my bins emptied once a fornight....


Just what i was thinking but i think its for Emergency services aswell ?
When we went to fornightly collections, I asked what this paid for. Miss Bimbo came back with:

Police (our station in town is part time - do I get discount)
Road repairs (ours is not adopted yet - do I get discount)
Verge grass cutting (I cut verge outside my house - do I get discount)
Library (Don't use it - do I get discount)

In the end, she agreed that I just had a very expensive rubbish collection...

If i was paying it i would refuse now, they have not bothered to plough a single road in Brackley.

Back to the list...

Verge Grass cutting? we don't have one!
Title: Re: Council Tax prices.
Post by: Kevin Wood on 10 February 2009, 23:33:32
A bargain at £194 a month here, and we don't even get street lights for that. Bet the council offices are real swanky though. >:(

Kevin