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Title: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: waspy on 10 February 2009, 18:21:08
Me & my mate were chating about cars we've owned over the years & he said he thinks that Triumph made the first injection engine or injection unit? I haven't a clue so i thought i'd put to the OOF & see what's said.
Over to you guys :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: markey mark on 10 February 2009, 18:23:21
possibly if not jaguar  :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Elite Pete on 10 February 2009, 18:25:26
I think they might have been the first british car with fuel injection
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 February 2009, 18:28:26
I reckon this is one for MDTM.  :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 February 2009, 18:29:38
My guess it that they were the 1st to go into mass production with it in the UK at least.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 February 2009, 18:31:09
mmm, maybe not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuel_injection
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: sassanach on 10 February 2009, 18:31:33
i believe lucas made the injection system for triumph.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: amigov6 on 10 February 2009, 18:51:53
I remember the Triumph 2.5pi but don't know if it's the first.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: iainb on 10 February 2009, 19:00:55
Triumph TR5 first uk production car with petrol injection but Merc were they in the 1950's,Mercedes-Benz 300SL
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 February 2009, 19:14:23
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Triumph TR5 first uk production car with petrol injection but Merc were they in the 1950's,Mercedes-Benz 300SL

Yep.....dead right.....1967. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 February 2009, 19:16:33
No, nothing like.

Jusr remember that Fuel injection has been the corner stone of diesel engines since the 20's!

I seem to recall the first production car with petrol fuel injection fitted was on a Merc.

The yanks had a VERY crude electronic job in the 50's
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 10 February 2009, 19:22:43
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No, nothing like.

Jusr remember that Fuel injection has been the corner stone of diesel engines since the 20's!

I seem to recall the first production car with petrol fuel injection fitted was on a Merc.

The yanks had a VERY crude electronic job in the 50's

I was just about to add........that Triumph had another first......I think that the Dolly Sprint was the first mass produced British car with 4 valves per cylinder ............in 1973.........I could be wrong though. :y :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: vauxfan2k on 10 February 2009, 19:25:48
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The yanks had a VERY crude electronic job in the 50's

fitted to the 57 corvette
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: amigov6 on 10 February 2009, 19:26:19
Pandoras box, Can of worms?........ ::) ;D :D
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: dbug on 10 February 2009, 19:27:18
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Triumph TR5 first uk production car with petrol injection but Merc were they in the 1950's,Mercedes-Benz 300SL

Yep.....dead right.....1967. :y :y :y

Wrong - TR5 came out in 1968 - TR4A continued upto late 1967.  My TR4A is a late 67 motor.  Check out the TR Register (of which I have been a member since the 70s!)

Based on a Lucas system, 150psi pump, rest of system set up mechanically (using feelers!!)  Remember my 69 TR6 used to be a bugger to set up properly.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: mars on 10 February 2009, 19:38:53
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No, nothing like.

Jusr remember that Fuel injection has been the corner stone of diesel engines since the 20's!

I seem to recall the first production car with petrol fuel injection fitted was on a Merc.

The yanks had a VERY crude electronic job in the 50's

I was just about to add........that Triumph had another first......I think that the Dolly Sprint was the first mass produced British car with 4 valves per cylinder ............in 1973.........I could be wrong though. :y :y

Think you could be right about Dolly Sprint :-/
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 10 February 2009, 19:48:43
Nope....Honda actually......followed by Jensen who used the Lotus unit based around the Gm engine!
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: albitz on 11 February 2009, 00:17:36
The (only) special or unique thing about the Dolly sprint was the fact that it had 16 valves operated by a single camshaft,no-one had done it before and afaik no-one has done it since.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 11 February 2009, 00:23:28
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The (only) special or unique thing about the Dolly sprint was the fact that it had 16 valves operated by a single camshaft,no-one had done it before and afaik no-one has done it since.


I remember we had an 1850 not sure if they were the dolly sprint though, have a feeling they were 2 litre's.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 February 2009, 10:30:48
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The (only) special or unique thing about the Dolly sprint was the fact that it had 16 valves operated by a single camshaft,no-one had done it before and afaik no-one has done it since.


I remember we had an 1850 not sure if they were the dolly sprint though, have a feeling they were 2 litre's.


Yep....Dolly Sprint was 2 litres.....and 127 BHP........not bad for 1973. :y :y :y
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 11 February 2009, 10:36:45
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The (only) special or unique thing about the Dolly sprint was the fact that it had 16 valves operated by a single camshaft,no-one had done it before and afaik no-one has done it since.


I remember we had an 1850 not sure if they were the dolly sprint though, have a feeling they were 2 litre's.


Yep....Dolly Sprint was 2 litres.....and 127 BHP........not bad for 1973. :y :y :y

Respectable.

We originally had a Triuph 2000, lovely car, then I reckon it was the 1850 Dolomite we must have had then.  Seem to remember a D Badge on the rear roof piller bit.  Cracking little car.
Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Richie London on 11 February 2009, 11:08:32
i like a truimph in a blood red, half cut strapless 38dd  
NWS  
http://www.lingeriebrands.co.uk/lingerie/triumph/triumph-lingerie/

 ;) :P :P :P



Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 11 February 2009, 11:25:20
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i like a truimph in a blood red, half cut strapless 38dd  
NWS  
http://www.lingeriebrands.co.uk/lingerie/triumph/triumph-lingerie/

 ;) :P :P :P


How did the slogan go.........Triumph has a bra for the way you are......I think that's how it went. :D :D :y :y :y


Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 February 2009, 13:29:46
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i like a truimph in a blood red, half cut strapless 38dd  
NWS  
http://www.lingeriebrands.co.uk/lingerie/triumph/triumph-lingerie/

 ;) :P :P :P




.. strapped over a pair of Dolomites...

Kevin

Title: Re: Did Triumph make the first injection engine
Post by: Richie London on 11 February 2009, 13:37:01
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i like a truimph in a blood red, half cut strapless 38dd  
NWS  
http://www.lingeriebrands.co.uk/lingerie/triumph/triumph-lingerie/

 ;) :P :P :P




.. strapped over a pair of Dolomites...

Kevin


with a stunning pair of wheel nuts  ::) ;D ;D ;D