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Title: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Miggy24 on 10 February 2009, 17:44:53
Has anyone seen this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQtJmdWPlvU

I thought that you couldnt do that on cars with cats
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 17:48:54
yeah i did it on a 406 i had with the cat still on it

its a spark plug that sits in the exhaust
there are kits on flebay you can by
pain in the rear to set up and get right
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Miggy24 on 10 February 2009, 17:50:34
i had one on my first car but thought that u couldnt have them on a car with a cat oh well lol
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 17:51:35
i used to get small flames with the cat on but when i took the cat off and had a straight pipe and only a back box on the exhaust
i wired a switch to the coil pack that i could cut out the coil pack dumping all the fuel into the exhaust i used to get a few feet of flames down the motorway at 100mph
good fun but when it dont kick flames it smokes well


oh and if you do stick a flamer kit on your car
watch your bumper
(i learnt the hard way)
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 10 February 2009, 17:59:08
Bit daft leaving the reg on display with posting a vid like that.
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 18:02:00
there used to be an escort turbo (aint saw it for ages)
that used to have a flammer kit on the car was dumping that much unburnt fuel into the exhaust he used leave a few fires on the road
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: markey mark on 10 February 2009, 18:22:46
sure ive seen kits with a butane bottle what ignities with a spark plug  :o :o
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 18:23:53
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sure ive seen kits with a butane bottle what ignities with a spark plug  :o :o

bit risky tho if the solenoid fails to close

[size=18]BANG[/size]
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: markey mark on 10 February 2009, 18:24:32
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sure ive seen kits with a butane bottle what ignities with a spark plug  :o :o

bit risky tho if the solenoid fails to close

[size=18]BANG[/size]

would be funny on a chavved up saxo  ;D ;D
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 18:26:20
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sure ive seen kits with a butane bottle what ignities with a spark plug  :o :o

bit risky tho if the solenoid fails to close

[size=18]BANG[/size]

would be funny on a chavved up saxo  ;D ;D

yeah
i bet there is some prat going round with a dirty great big butane bottle in the boot feed to there exhaust
and probly stuck a nos sticker on to make him look good


Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: markey mark on 10 February 2009, 18:27:14
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sure ive seen kits with a butane bottle what ignities with a spark plug  :o :o

bit risky tho if the solenoid fails to close

[size=18]BANG[/size]

would be funny on a chavved up saxo  ;D ;D

yeah
i bet there is some prat going round with a dirty great big butane bottle in the boot feed to there exhaust
and probly stuck a nos sticker on to make him look good


:D :D :D
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:04:10
to do that.  do you have to do away with all ya silencer boxes???
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Miggy24 on 10 February 2009, 19:07:11
No i dont think so
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 19:08:33
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to do that.  do you have to do away with all ya silencer boxes???

no you can keep the boxes
on my 406 i only had the back boxes
yeah it was loud but did sound good and kicked flames lovely
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:11:16
just a random thought.  as at some point i am gettting myself a stainless exhaust and doin away with the 2 mid boxes,  one blowing at the moment from the pipe weld on the box.  
mot dew very soon aswell    :'( :'(
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 19:14:00
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just a random thought.  as at some point i am gettting myself a stainless exhaust and doin away with the 2 mid boxes,  one blowing at the moment from the pipe weld on the box.  
mot dew very soon aswell    :'( :'(
yeah get rid of the two middle boxes
it should sound nice
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:32:44
someone tried giving me the little scare saying that if i take the 2 mid boxes out i will lose too much back pressure.  i cant see it being much of a problem if i got a good sized stanless back box on it.
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 19:34:21
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someone tried giving me the little scare saying that if i take the 2 mid boxes out i will lose too much back pressure.  i cant see it being much of a problem if i got a good sized stanless back box on it.

i was told that when i took both the cat and middle box off my 406
i never lost any power
if anything i think i gained a small amount

i had my timing advanced and a super chip put in a few days later
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:35:46
ok good.  just to be a bit more of a pain.  does it have much effect on ya emmision etc  when ya take out ya cat or in my case as it being a v6 i have 2
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 19:38:29
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ok good.  just to be a bit more of a pain.  does it have much effect on ya emmision etc  when ya take out ya cat or in my case as it being a v6 i have 2

yeah it does
it depends how well you know the tester doing the mot ;) ;) ;)

trick to do is
if you are going to have the cat's taken off try and get the person fitting the stainless steel exhaust to make it so you can unbolt a section to drop the cat's back on for when the mot is due
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:42:41
ok i will keep that in mind,  i know the guy pretty well who fitting my exhaust so im sure he can sort me something out.
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 10 February 2009, 19:44:13
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ok i will keep that in mind,  i know the guy pretty well who fitting my exhaust so im sure he can sort me something out.

end of the day its custom made exhaust
if you want a section to unbolt to put your cats back on for the mot
they will be able to do it
the chap i know in stoke who does stainless steel did it for me for my 406
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 10 February 2009, 19:45:24
ok good stuff.  thanks for ya help   :y :y
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: old git on 10 February 2009, 22:41:57
Don't know if this is anygood for omega ie, spacings for Cat .Richard Brunt on the Autobarnstormers site made stainless steel bits for senney exhausts (bigheds senny has one)I did pm Richard about using his ss back box on an omega But says he has not developed one for a mig May be compare bigheds ss bbox with a mig's can't be that much diff .
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 February 2009, 09:46:20
What is a flamer kit for?
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Big Sye on 11 February 2009, 09:50:01
some have flamer kits installed in there exhaust system to shoot flames out of the tailpipe when revving.   a spark ignites the unburnt fuel that is passed through the exhaust system
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 February 2009, 10:02:40
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some have flamer kits installed in there exhaust system to shoot flames out of the tailpipe when revving.   a spark ignites the unburnt fuel that is passed through the exhaust system


Sounds very odd :-/
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: nick v6 on 11 February 2009, 10:14:56
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some have flamer kits installed in there exhaust system to shoot flames out of the tailpipe when revving.   a spark ignites the unburnt fuel that is passed through the exhaust system


Sounds very odd :-/

yeah but dam good fun :y
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: jerry on 11 February 2009, 11:23:37
Bit too boyracerish for me now !!!Must be getting old!!!As for the exhaust, most good custom makers will provide you with the facility to take off /put back on the cat. Cat off will give you more power but will likely fail you on the emissions test. Further to talk of blinging up your ride, have just seen an excellent mod on the estima site where one of the guys has effectively installed a light show with flashing patterns and changing colours that run from one headlamp to the other via lighting set up on the grill. Pity I'm such a lamebrain on here that cant figure out how to put a link up as it is pretty impressive!!
                                                                             jerry :y
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Miggy24 on 11 February 2009, 13:44:18
i am thinking about getting one for abit of fun.had one on my first car and what fun it was.remember setting fire to aload of grass when i lived in the coutry side lol
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 February 2009, 15:05:39
I've had flames out of the exhaust without the need for any modifications. I've mapped that car a bit better now, though.  ::)

Kevin
Title: Re: flamer kit on an omega
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 February 2009, 15:06:21
Come to think of it, I had flames out of the intake too, when it was really not happy.

Kevin