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Title: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 February 2009, 14:14:18

I have a lot of data to backup, and hard disks are now affordable to do it.

It now costs about £1 to back up a tape.

Each MiniDV tape is about 14GB and about 70 will fit on one HDD.

Unfortunately the Samsumg 1TB drive has gone up by £5 since I last bought one.

Is it OTT to fill up a HDD with lots of video data?

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Welung666 on 11 February 2009, 14:17:00

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I have a lot of data to backup, and hard disks are now affordable to do it.

It now costs about £1 to back up a tape.

Each MiniDV tape is about 14GB and about 70 will fit on one HDD.

Unfortunately the Samsumg 1TB drive has gone up by £5 since I last bought one.

Is it OTT to fill up a HDD with lots of video data?

Not at all. I have a couple of 250gb drives full of films.

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 11 February 2009, 14:22:36

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I have a lot of data to backup, and hard disks are now affordable to do it.

It now costs about £1 to back up a tape.

Each MiniDV tape is about 14GB and about 70 will fit on one HDD.

Unfortunately the Samsumg 1TB drive has gone up by £5 since I last bought one.

Is it OTT to fill up a HDD with lots of video data?

I dont think it is.  But the down side is that if the drive pops you lose the lot.

I have a USB2 desktop caddy that I can pop a drive in and use as and when I need, but am hoping they bring one out soon that fits in a drive bay to save cluttering the desk/coffe table up.

I cant be doing with DVD disks all over the place.

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 February 2009, 14:55:31

I recently came to the conclusion that storage is cheap enough for a little project of mine. Bought a 1TB WD10EACS drive for my music server and I'm in the process of ripping my CD collection to FLAC format.

If you rip CDs using the latest version of Exact Audio Copy (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de) you can verify them as error free, which is more than a CD transport will do "on the fly".

Once stored, play them back using one of these feeding a decent DAC:

(http://www.ecodigital.co.uk/slim_devices/squeezebox-3-player.jpg)

I scored my WD10EACS for about 75 quid from Tekheads IIRC. Very impressed. It's extremely quiet and runs very cool. Performance is probably not up there with the best but not a problem for my application. May be more of a concern for video but I guess not if you're just storing on it.

EDIT: Oh, and no more shuffling over to the CD cabinet every time I fancy a change of album.

Kevin

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 February 2009, 16:02:24

Time to save on paypal again then

I do have the original tapes as well.

Might redo so of my earliest captures as well

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 February 2009, 18:09:04

I think HDDs are the most trustable media to keep your files..

logical..

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Kevin Wood on 11 February 2009, 18:14:44

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I think HDDs are the most trustable media to keep your files..

logical..

.. and the easiest to access, which isn't necessarily a good thing for backups.  :-X

Worth mirroring them or at least rsync'ing them to a second device of some description just in case.

Kevin

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: TheBoy on 11 February 2009, 18:43:36

HDD are too unreliable and too easily accessed to be a backup solution imho.  I've always been a fan of tape - simple, robust, fairly fast retrieval.

Shame nobody wanted those 20/40G DAT drives and brand new tapes I threw out about a month ago....

Currently use LTO drive and tapes (kindly donated by an OOF regular (before he flogged his Omega)), previously DLT to back up OOF :)

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 February 2009, 18:47:51

simple solution for HDD to be safe :

take the back up.. lock in a place and throw the key ;D

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: TheBoy on 11 February 2009, 19:23:57

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simple solution for HDD to be safe :

take the back up.. lock in a place and throw the key ;D

only drives have habit of sticking if not used for a while ;)

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 11 February 2009, 19:25:59

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simple solution for HDD to be safe :

take the back up.. lock in a place and throw the key ;D

only drives have habit of sticking if not used for a while ;)

 :-? never seen that ..

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: TheBoy on 11 February 2009, 19:49:30

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simple solution for HDD to be safe :

take the back up.. lock in a place and throw the key ;D

only drives have habit of sticking if not used for a while ;)

 :-? never seen that ..

We used to keep stocks of spare drives (we have thousands of drive failures per year), but those that didn't get used for 3 or 4 years occasionally wouldn't spin up, or would spin up and immediately fail

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Martin_1962 on 11 February 2009, 20:27:56

I think I will start on my D drive then copy across at a later date - I'll do all my old SLF1 tapes as well again.

Then copy onto a new drive in 5 years.

I do use sleep so they spin down occasionally

Title: Re: Huge backups of video data
Post by: Ian_D on 11 February 2009, 23:29:05

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HDD are too unreliable and too easily accessed to be a backup solution imho.  I've always been a fan of tape - simple, robust, fairly fast retrieval.

Shame nobody wanted those 20/40G DAT drives and brand new tapes I threw out about a month ago....

Currently use LTO drive and tapes (kindly donated by an OOF regular (before he flogged his Omega)), previously DLT to back up OOF :)

Your joking??? Im after some more DAT tapes! and I'm sure my DAT drive is only 12/24gb too  :'( :'( :'(