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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: djdaveyp85 on 12 February 2009, 17:35:30
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Well I went to court today for driving whilst using a mobile phone and driving without insurance (which was a geuine silly mistake - forgot to read small print on my certificate!) And I feel they were very harsh. Even though i pleaded guilty and brought evidence showing the mistake i made and profusely apologised for taking up their time and showed complete remorse for it all they still decided to give me 8 points and £350 fine plus £60 court costs and £12.50 surcharge (wtf is the surcharge?).
I feel really badly done to! I now have 11 points on my license! I'm really thinking whether to appeal or not!
On a lighter note i've finally managed to get a job starting on monday to help me as its a very tough time to be a DJ at the moment so no more money worries hopefully!
All in all a productive day, with mixed feelings!
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Well I went to court today for driving whilst using a mobile phone and driving without insurance (which was a geuine silly mistake - forgot to read small print on my certificate!) And I feel they were very harsh. Even though i pleaded guilty and brought evidence showing the mistake i made and profusely apologised for taking up their time and showed complete remorse for it all they still decided to give me 8 points and £350 fine plus £60 court costs and £12.50 surcharge (wtf is the surcharge?).
I feel really badly done to! I now have 11 points on my license! I'm really thinking whether to appeal or not!
On a lighter note i've finally managed to get a job starting on monday to help me as its a very tough time to be a DJ at the moment so no more money worries hopefully!
All in all a productive day, with mixed feelings!
Id have banned ya mate...using a mobile is bad enough but that as well as no insuarnce :o
Ignorance is not an excuse... :exclamation
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Its not a ban-able offence
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Its not a ban-able offence
Might have been if you killed someone.
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I understand it wasn't the cleverest mistake to make but i've been slated about it enough! And you don't understand the circumstances! [smiley=undecided.gif]
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sorry to say it but it could have been more serious as others have said, mind you if you had done all that but nicked the car you would have probably got off with a few points, a piddly fine & some community service :(
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I understand it wasn't the cleverest mistake to make but i've been slated about it enough! And you don't understand the circumstances! [smiley=undecided.gif]
Might be best to pull your post then mate, if you don't want to get slagged off about it. It is only early at the moment!!
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As to ban or points. Not claiming any moral high ground here, just trying to explain things a bit...
As you are now on 11 points, do you think that the Court now thinks that you will take more care to avoid getting the 12th point and thus a 6 month ban? Generally the case....
You can get a ban for no insurance - its upto the Court.... Copied from Pepipoo...
Discretionary disqualification
Whenever an offender is convicted of an endorsable offence or of taking a vehicle without consent, the court has a discretionary power to disqualify instead of imposing penalty points.
Where a disqualification is for less than 56 days, there are some differences in effect compared with disqualification for a longer period; in particular, the licence will automatically come back into effect at the end of the disqualification period (instead of requiring application by the driver) and the disqualification is not taken into account for the purpose of increasing subsequent obligatory periods of disqualification.
In some cases in which the court is considering discretionary disqualification, the offender may already have sufficient penalty points on his or her licence that he or she would be liable to a 'totting up' disqualification if further points were imposed. In these circumstances, the court should impose penalty points rather than discretionary disqualification so that the minimum totting up disqualification period applies.
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your lucky mate 8 points and a fine
on a mobile phone and no insurance
your very lucky they didn't take your liecence and give you the book and lock you up for 12 months
the first thing i do is when i'm driving is give my mobile to ann
as for the insurance it takes 2 mins to read the part that tells you what you can and can't do
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All i'm worried about is how much it'll effect my current ins policy i've learned my lesson about mobiles! I always use bluetooth just forgot it on this occasion
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All i'm worried about is how much it'll effect my current ins policy i've learned my lesson about mobiles! I always use bluetooth just forgot it on this occasion
say hello to higher insurance
and some might not even touch you
as for forgetting your bluetooth
sorry mate not an excuse
(how long does it take to press the brake pedal and pull over)
the call wont go to te answer phone you got plenty of time to pull over
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they went to town when they did me 12 yrs ago. court on teusday 4yrs and 2 days later another 2 yrs. 2 yrs suspended and untold fines. never paid them a penny in fines. refused to pay it, told them to lock me up instead. so they didnt go any further. but it learnt me a great lesson, last yr is first offence since that day. i give no reason to pull me or arrest me. but one thing i will never do now is drive and chat on phone.
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they went to town when they did me 12 yrs ago. court on teusday 4yrs and 2 days later another 2 yrs. 2 yrs suspended and untold fines. never paid them a penny in fines. refused to pay it, told them to lock me up instead. so they didnt go any further. but it learnt me a great lesson, last yr is first offence since that day. i give no reason to pull me or arrest me. but one thing i will never do now is drive and chat on phone.
What happened?
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It was a business call and i was in a rush somewhere, easy mistake to make learned my lesson, never forget it now!
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ist offence. went after a bloke and rammed his car into a dual carriageway at 70mph.
2nd offence, 3 months later. car was in pub all night after st georges day, after 12 hrs of stella and untold amount of scotch i picked car in morning. i blew 184 on 1st attempt.
i didnt have to tell this but its something im ashamed of and not afraid to admit. until all this happened i was a real wild tinker. now i would rather come out of a corner by words rather than violence. ive had one big fight in all the time ive had my kids and that was last yr when i thought id killed the bloke. and i dont want it in my life, i want peace.my body cant cope with stress anymore, hence the illnesses ive had in the last yr. :-[ :-[ :-[
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
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I've spent the last 5 years of my life thinking i can get away with everything and now after 2 court visits in a month i've finally realised I can't, sorting my life out now not just for me but for the missus! Need to get out of debt and start acting like an adult!
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It was a business call and i was in a rush somewhere, easy mistake to make learned my lesson, never forget it now!
No business is worth the risk of you (or someone else) waking up on the wrong side of the clouds (assuming you travel in that direction!).
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
Too be fair your a woman so we dont expect you too know how too drive..... ;D ;D
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
Too be fair your a woman so we dont expect you too know how too drive..... ;D ;D
Oh Dear . . . .
Watch this space . . :-X
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
Too be fair your a woman so we dont expect you too know how too drive..... ;D ;D
Oh Dear . . . .
Watch this space . . :-X
That will be another name in her little red book ::) ::) ::) Mine is in it now..... :o
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
You wouldn't think so the amount of people you see still usins them whilst driving. >:( I've also noticed a disproportionate amount of 4x4 drivers on their phones, their cars cost a fortune but they won't spend a few bob on a hands free set >:(
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I drive for my job and so I am on the road several hours each day. I see literally dozens of people everyday using their phones while driving. Don't think many people at all have got the message about the penalties or the dangers of this practise :(
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there is never a copper when you want one
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ1zb2Y0Uls[/media]
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1luIDQSJ-Ao[/media]
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To be honest, I would take the points/fine on the chin, feel you could have got worse :y
As to the phone thing - "It was a business call and I didn't think", whatever the crime was (phone use in this case) you were not thinking about your driving, which is when accidents happen.
A lucky escape on the points/fine, and even luckier that the lack of concentration didn't result in something else :y
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At the risk of being controversial,if its so dangerous why (afaik)do the police use radios etc while driving ?
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At the risk of being controversial,if its so dangerous why (afaik)do the police use radios etc while driving ?
police radio's are now on the sterring wheel
just a press of the button and they dont have to take there hands off the wheel
so its a bit like hands free
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[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPlnNaHGZY8[/media]
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At the risk of being controversial,if its so dangerous why (afaik)do the police use radios etc while driving ?
police have been instructed not to use hand held radios whilst in the car as they are faced with same penalty (prob worse as they should know better, right)
As mentioned above buttons are now on steering wheels and gear sticks.
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They did use them for many decades though with no suggestion of it being dangerous.
Btw,I believe the death penalty should be brought back for people who text while driving.
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8 points ! ouch, that's a bit savage,as for driving without insurance i nearly did the same with the elite, insurance company said they sent me an e-mail about a problem with my policy and were about to cancel the policy without me knowing,they blamed an e-mail filter for the problem ,which is odd because i seem to get all other mail ok!
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I'm guessing you were sentenced in the Magistrates Court .. not the Crown Court
Sentencing Guidlines for un-insured driving ..
Page 130 of
http://www.sentencing-guidelines.gov.uk/docs/SGC%20Magistrates%20Guidelines%20including%20update%201%20%202%20.pdf
You got close to the minimum ... 6 points ... could have been a LOT more ... 12 months disqualification
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Count yourself lucky. You got away without having a crash and maybe injuring someone.
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As for police using hand held radios whilst driving...Did anybody see Traffic cops last week on BBC 1 there was a lone traffic officer using a hand held telephone like radio whilst driving.....Yet i`ve seen single manned ambulance drivers using handsfree systems?? so why not police?? is it a different system?? :-/
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think you were lucky
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As for police using hand held radios whilst driving...Did anybody see Traffic cops last week on BBC 1 there was a lone traffic officer using a hand held telephone like radio whilst driving.....Yet i`ve seen single manned ambulance drivers using handsfree systems?? so why not police?? is it a different system?? :-/
Legally, yes...
Morally, no....
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
Chap has a point.
We need a new resident 'expert' for the UK so as to judge everyone else from, rather than the already accepted norm within Legal circles... Any takers?
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Hows this for a story. About 4 years ago i was pulled for using my phone, I was taking an emergency call, at the time. Took me a little while to find a safe place to stop, looking in my mirror I could see the female police officer using her radio. When stopped I chose not to mention this to her. ::)
Whilst I was sitting in her car, explaining why I was on the phone and where I was going, she took a radio call. Guess what, we were both now going to the same incident........... ::) ::) ::) Got of with it, I followed her to the incident, not blue lights though :(
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
Chap has a point.
We need a new resident 'expert' for the UK so as to judge everyone else from, rather than the already accepted norm within Legal circles... Any takers?
I never said I was an expert ... that's just my opinion!
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
Chap has a point.
We need a new resident 'expert' for the UK so as to judge everyone else from, rather than the already accepted norm within Legal circles... Any takers?
I never said I was an expert ... that's just my opinion!
Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
Chap has a point.
We need a new resident 'expert' for the UK so as to judge everyone else from, rather than the already accepted norm within Legal circles... Any takers?
I never said I was an expert ... that's just my opinion!
Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Don't think it came over like that.....
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
We do sometimes think the same way.... ;)
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
We do sometimes think the same way.... ;)
;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
I resemble that remark!! >:(
Note to self - MikeF, the blood sucking leech, 7069....
:P
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Im not going to judge anyone because every circumstance is different......
Mobile phone?...no excuse,end of
Mobile phones have a speaker facility if you forgot your bluetooth
Insurance...
If there was a genuine problem then i can appreciate it can be overlooked,i mean how many of us check we still have cover on a weekly or monthly basis????
You only look at your insurance documents etc when its renewal time or you get a HO/RT1
I am not by any stretch of the imagination a perfect driver but i do drive legally.....i.e speed limits,no phone,road worthy vehicle etc
I value my licence too much and also im terrified that i did something that resulted in someone,particularly a child,loosing their life are worse....being seriously and permanently injured
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
I resemble that remark!! >:(
Note to self - MikeF, the blood sucking leech, 7069....
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Please Noooo, my name is not Loo-Knee ::) I know your have a sense of humour and understand the need fot a bit of banter ;D
[size=8]I am on my Knees at the moment ;D ;D ;D[/size]
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
I resemble that remark!! >:(
Note to self - MikeF, the blood sucking leech, 7069....
:P
Please Noooo, my name is not Loo-Knee ::) I know your have a sense of humour and understand the need fot a bit of banter ;D
[size=8]I am on my Knees at the moment ;D ;D ;D[/size]
7070
;)
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
I resemble that remark!! >:(
Note to self - MikeF, the blood sucking leech, 7069....
:P
Please Noooo, my name is not Loo-Knee ::) I know your have a sense of humour and understand the need fot a bit of banter ;D
[size=8]I am on my Knees at the moment ;D ;D ;D[/size]
Sound..... 8-)
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Never said you were. I agreed with you?? :-?
Ooops! :-[ Apologies. That's what threw me! :y
Forgive him, North of the border you know......... ;D ;D ;D
I resemble that remark!! >:(
Note to self - MikeF, the blood sucking leech, 7069....
:P
Please Noooo, my name is not Loo-Knee ::) I know your have a sense of humour and understand the need fot a bit of banter ;D
[size=8]I am on my Knees at the moment ;D ;D ;D[/size]
7070
;)
It's Loo-Knee's fault, he told me, yesturday he was going to loose my post count for me...... ;D ;D
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Using your mobile whilst driving is a very serious offence as it really can kill! So no sympathy from me on any fine, points or ban given by the courts for it! >:( >:(
However, I think we have all done things whilst driving that could have killed, I certainly know I have but luckily I have always got away with it although learning my lesson in the process! ::) ::) ::)
The main thing is as human beings we continually make mistakes, and the real problem is when we fail to learn from them! :D :D ;)
Too be fair your a woman so we dont expect you too know how too drive..... ;D ;D
Oh Dear . . . .
Watch this space . . :-X
That will be another name in her little red book ::) ::) ::) Mine is in it now..... :o
Oh yes it is all being quietly noted! ::) ::) ::) My book has had a busy night. :o :o :D :D :D ;)
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and LK not here to defend himself Your always picking on him Mike he can get in to enough trouble on his own with out the rest of the OOF helping him. Its his only talent he told me ;D ;D
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and LK not here to defend himself Your always picking on him Mike he can get in to enough trouble on his own with out the rest of the OOF helping him. Its his only talent he told me ;D ;D
He sort of challenged me last night ::) His daughter and mine are chatting onMSN, perhaps yours would like to join in :y so we had a few words ::) all part of the banter, and it is his fault if he is not on line :D I have sent him a message to keep him informed :D :D :y
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and LK not here to defend himself Your always picking on him Mike he can get in to enough trouble on his own with out the rest of the OOF helping him. Its his only talent he told me ;D ;D
He sort of challenged me last night ::) His daughter and mine are chatting onMSN, perhaps yours would like to join in :y so we had a few words ::) all part of the banter, and it is his fault if he is not on line :D I have sent him a message to keep him informed :D :D :y
Mike your such a gent :y :y :y
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and LK not here to defend himself Your always picking on him Mike he can get in to enough trouble on his own with out the rest of the OOF helping him. Its his only talent he told me ;D ;D
He sort of challenged me last night ::) His daughter and mine are chatting onMSN, perhaps yours would like to join in :y so we had a few words ::) all part of the banter, and it is his fault if he is not on line :D I have sent him a message to keep him informed :D :D :y
Mike your such a gent :y :y :y
True.......... ;D ;D ;D
Seriously, does you daughter want a msn friend, mine is finding it interesting chatting to others from around the country. Looking at setting up a junior oofers msn group, highly monitored and available to long standing members children, currently 8 and 9 years of age.
Hoping LK takes the lead on the group, as I don't know how to. :o
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
i cant say that I'm a lover of text speak , If shes anything like her mum it'll be hard to keep her quiet ;D If SWMBO see's this I'll be limping for a week :D
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
i cant say that I'm a lover of text speak , If shes anything like her mum it'll be hard to keep her quiet ;D If SWMBO see's this I'll be limping for a week :D
Just tell her that her hair is looking nice...... ;D ;D
I daughter wants to join in that would be good, pm me her email address and we will get a group set up :y the downside is that I loose the laptop for longer ::) and they talk drivel....... bit like gen chat really :y
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
i cant say that I'm a lover of text speak , If shes anything like her mum it'll be hard to keep her quiet ;D If SWMBO see's this I'll be limping for a week :D
Just tell her that her hair is looking nice...... ;D ;D
I daughter wants to join in that would be good, pm me her email address and we will get a group set up :y the downside is that I loose the laptop for longer ::) and they talk drivel....... bit like gen chat really :y
that stung :D :D I'll mention it tomorrow
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
i cant say that I'm a lover of text speak , If shes anything like her mum it'll be hard to keep her quiet ;D If SWMBO see's this I'll be limping for a week :D
Just tell her that her hair is looking nice...... ;D ;D
I daughter wants to join in that would be good, pm me her email address and we will get a group set up :y the downside is that I loose the laptop for longer ::) and they talk drivel....... bit like gen chat really :y
that stung :D :D I'll mention it tomorrow
you didn't think id missed that dig did you ,just wait i will have my revenge :D :D
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I'll ask Mike but shes only 7 if that matters though you wouldn't guess it .Its LIKE TALKING TO WIFE sometime i.e" Dad sometimes your really daft do you know that" Er i did actually ,but you get the idea
Fully understand, daughter tells swmbo that i am loopy and certainly not cool. ::) 7 is fine, conversation is what you would expect of the age, quite basic, a few years before we are talking boyfriends...... :-X
I am trying to encourage propper talking, and NOT text speak, helps with their develompent, and i am not being boring. :y
i cant say that I'm a lover of text speak , If shes anything like her mum it'll be hard to keep her quiet ;D If SWMBO see's this I'll be limping for a week :D
Just tell her that her hair is looking nice...... ;D ;D
I daughter wants to join in that would be good, pm me her email address and we will get a group set up :y the downside is that I loose the laptop for longer ::) and they talk drivel....... bit like gen chat really :y
that stung :D :D I'll mention it tomorrow
imho nice to get the kids to talk to other kids from around the Country, can even be good for work in school.. :y
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Mike will your daughter be able to understand a Manc accent ;D ;D ;D
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Mike ignore that one, he obviously has a different understanding of email to everyone else he he!
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Mike ignore that one, he obviously has a different understanding of email to everyone else he he!
At least you caught on more than Mike did. Its his age y'know ;) ;)
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Gosh I didn't expect to kick up such a fuss!
I agree using your mobile phone distracts you whilst driving. I almost always use my bluetooth earpiece (well i better cos next point is bye bye license), but using a mobile phone does not even compare in the slightest to the idiocy i see on the roads on a weekly basis whilst driving home from work between 2-4 in the morning! I see drink drivers regularily (and report everyone of them using 999), people racing including the one occasion i saw two police t5's racing each other down the m62 at some hideous speed, people driving too fast for the conditions and loosing it aquaplaning! Then theres the idiots that undertake using the hard shoulder at ques at junctions, the idiots that under take 2 rows of cars using the inside lane which is also caused by an idiot using the middle lane when he should be in the inside lane. These are all, in my opinion, worse than what i have done, yet most of them carry much less of a penalty (as an FPN anyway) than what I have received, obviously excluding drink driving, which is quite rightly a ban. I understand I should be punished for what I have done, and i'm not proud of it, i am in fact deeply embarrassed about, I only said that 8 points are a little steep.
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You may well be right matey. To a degree maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
Misuse of traffic signs
Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
Improper use of signals
Improper use of the highway code
Incorrect car setup (Mis alaigned beam, no horn, tracking out) all things that are not a problem till you find out they are faulty. Its wrong to have an empty washer bottle.
I believe there is some law sating it is illegal to drive a car knowing it could break down.
Top Gear - Where shall I start
Audi diesel run, driving into london knowingly the car could come to a holt.
Italan car on a budget, No Brakes, engine gave in
The list goes on.
Then you have summer driving, with one arm out of the window, not all drivers have 2 hands on the wheel.
The list goes on matey, but facts are facts. You only get done if you get caught.
Had you not have been stopped for using a mobile phone then you would not have got done for no insurance ( I actually sympathise with you on the insurance, but there is a lesson to every single one of use there) But that would have only been a matter of time before an ANPR picked up on it.
We drive cars that are capable of mass destruction even at low speeds. death by neglegence would be a hard thing to live with, especially for the sake of a phone call. 8 points plus the 3 you allready had for ever the reason was leaves you no leeway. A dodgy tyre can soon take that off you.
On reflection. The phone rang, they would have left a message. The outcome of that call. OUCH.
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Gosh I didn't expect to kick up such a fuss!
I agree using your mobile phone distracts you whilst driving. I almost always use my bluetooth earpiece (well i better cos next point is bye bye license), but using a mobile phone does not even compare in the slightest to the idiocy i see on the roads on a weekly basis whilst driving home from work between 2-4 in the morning! I see drink drivers regularily (and report everyone of them using 999), people racing including the one occasion i saw two police t5's racing each other down the m62 at some hideous speed, people driving too fast for the conditions and loosing it aquaplaning! Then theres the idiots that undertake using the hard shoulder at ques at junctions, the idiots that under take 2 rows of cars using the inside lane which is also caused by an idiot using the middle lane when he should be in the inside lane. These are all, in my opinion, worse than what i have done, yet most of them carry much less of a penalty (as an FPN anyway) than what I have received, obviously excluding drink driving, which is quite rightly a ban. I understand I should be punished for what I have done, and i'm not proud of it, i am in fact deeply embarrassed about, I only said that 8 points are a little steep.
Actually .. having done a tad more research on the Sentencing Guidlines site .... you could be considered lucky .... :)
Minimum for no insurance (with no other aggravating circumstances) = 6 points + fine, max = 12 months disqualification +fine
Minimum for driving whilst using phone = 3 points + fine
So you "should (?)" have got 9 points + fine .. which would have lead to a ban through "totting up" with your previous 3.....
Magistrates have been "nice" by only giving you 8 ... leaves you one short of a ban .. but still able to drive !!! :y :y :y :y :y
Just my views .. nowt else .. :)
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I think that there are obviously far too many perfect people/drivers here.
I'll stick my head above the parapet .... if we're baning people from using a phone & fining people rediculous fines for eating a butty at the wheel, we should also target the all the half wits on the road who struggle to drive in a stright line with both hands on the wheel. I certainly don't think that talking on a phone - hand held or fixed - can be compared to drink driving like some so called expert has suggested. I have managed to talk on a phone - both hand held & fixed -loads of times quite safely while behind the wheel.
I can't condone it though now, cos it's no longer legal.
That said AndyB, I was stuck behind a woman on the phone the other day at a junction. She was at the junction on the phone as I approached. I assumed she was stuck on the ice, so got out asking if she wanted a push, being the decent citizen I am. She told me to mind my own business, and she drove off!
She was obviously completely unaware of what was going on around her. Saying that, she was a typical Milton Keynes chav.
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You may well be right matey. To a degree maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
Misuse of traffic signs
Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
Improper use of signals
Improper use of the highway code
Incorrect car setup (Mis alaigned beam, no horn, tracking out) all things that are not a problem till you find out they are faulty. Its wrong to have an empty washer bottle.
I believe there is some law sating it is illegal to drive a car knowing it could break down.
Top Gear - Where shall I start
Audi diesel run, driving into london knowingly the car could come to a holt.
Italan car on a budget, No Brakes, engine gave in
The list goes on.
Then you have summer driving, with one arm out of the window, not all drivers have 2 hands on the wheel.
The list goes on matey, but facts are facts. You only get done if you get caught.
Had you not have been stopped for using a mobile phone then you would not have got done for no insurance ( I actually sympathise with you on the insurance, but there is a lesson to every single one of use there) But that would have only been a matter of time before an ANPR picked up on it.
We drive cars that are capable of mass destruction even at low speeds. death by neglegence would be a hard thing to live with, especially for the sake of a phone call. 8 points plus the 3 you allready had for ever the reason was leaves you no leeway. A dodgy tyre can soon take that off you.
On reflection. The phone rang, they would have left a message. The outcome of that call. OUCH.
That should be banned as well.
Now most people here know I am not a smoker, but against the smoking ban.
But having a fag whilst driving is no different to someone with an uncontrollable pie-arm stuffing a pastie down his neck? Possibly worse, as we've all seen drivers who drop ash on there laps server about ;D
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maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
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Eating whislt driving - ....
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Not actually illeagal ... yet!
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maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
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Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
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It's not actually illegal .... yet!
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I know people who have be prosecuted for it - most of my old colleagues ;D
Never heard of anyone stopped for having a fag...
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maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
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Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
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It's not actually illegal .... yet!
I know people who have be prosecuted for it - most of my old colleagues ;D
Never heard of anyone stopped for having a fag...[/quote]
Thats a lie. I meant 'having a ciggy' :-X
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maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
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Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
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It's not actually illegal .... yet!
I know people who have be prosecuted for it - most of my old colleagues ;D
Never heard of anyone stopped for having a fag...[/quote]
The latest one on telly .. the Scouser with the 'bit of bread' .... IIRC she was done for not being in control of the car. A bit different from eating & driving. It might amount to the same thing in some cases but not actually the same, IMHO
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maybe every motorist is guilty of braking the law every time they go out.
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Eating whislt driving - but if thats the case then smoking is the same.
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It's not actually illegal .... yet!
I know people who have be prosecuted for it - most of my old colleagues ;D
Never heard of anyone stopped for having a fag...
Thats a lie. I meant 'having a ciggy' :-X[/quote]
I thought better at making comment! ::) ::) ::) :y
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On long drives I quite often have something to eat. As long as it is sensible you are fine
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On long drives I quite often have something to eat. As long as it is sensible you are fine
Pudding, chips, peas & gravy in a tray on the passenger seat ....... you'd be fine!!! ::) ::)
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On long drives I quite often have something to eat. As long as it is sensible you are fine
NO! You stop - as you are supposed to every 2hr anyway!
[size=8]What I preach and what I do are not always entirely the same[/size]
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People have been done for bag of crisps / apple,
if they dont like you on the day, youve had it.
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On long drives I quite often have something to eat. As long as it is sensible you are fine
NO! You stop - as you are supposed to every 2hr anyway!
[size=8]What I preach and what I do are not always entirely the same[/size]
merely another guideline .......
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Im quite often found swerving from lane to lane or lane too footpath while rolling a cigi...not worried about crashing as thats why we have insurance isnt it. ;D ;D
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On long drives I quite often have something to eat. As long as it is sensible you are fine
NO! You stop - as you are supposed to every 2hr anyway!
[size=8]What I preach and what I do are not always entirely the same[/size]
Brent Knoll for a pee, Okehampton for a pee and gas.
Will admit to using laybys rather than services occasionally as sometimes you cannot get into services. (While going on holiday)