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Title: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: LouisCorney on 15 February 2009, 22:06:50
I'm considering buying the Halfords Professional 150 Piece Socket / Ratchet set and a torque wrench.

The set seems to get good reviews and has a good warranty, would it cover nearly everything?

My main question is I'm not sure which range torque wrench to buy - 8-60 or 40-200 (ish)? Or would I need both?

The draper torque wrenches get good reviews, and I was also looking at the Halfords ones.

Any advice appreciated for a novice such as myself  :)
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: HGV mechanic on 15 February 2009, 22:09:44
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I'm considering buying the Halfords Professional 150 Piece Socket / Ratchet set and a torque wrench.

The set seems to get good reviews and has a good warranty, would it cover nearly everything?

My main question is I'm not sure which range torque wrench to buy - 8-60 or 40-200 (ish)? Or would I need both?

The draper torque wrenches get good reviews, and I was also looking at the Halfords ones.

Any advice appreciated for a novice such as myself  :)

not sure about that bit,,, but as for torque wrenches i , personally would get both
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Omega man 2 on 15 February 2009, 22:22:16
I've gat a halfords 8-60 and has done everything I need for an engine rebuild :y

Great piece of kit :y
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: dad1uk on 15 February 2009, 22:25:17
Had several Halfords toolkits over the years, for the price they are good stuff.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Jimbob on 16 February 2009, 07:31:54
A lot of us have them, at £99 they are not bad value, and guarantee works well,

Spanners are narrow, which is good sometimes, but they can dig in  :-/

I like the fact everything is easy to find, and has its place.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 08:26:59
The Halfords Pro 150 pc is a decent set at £99.  Note that the new 150pc sets are slightly different to the older ones, I think around the bits being screwdriver bits rather than socket bits.

Also note that the rachet mechanisms are only guaranteed for 1yr.  Also, keep the receipt - every part I've broken (through misuse I have to add ::)) they have asked for original receipt.

I have loads of socket rails from varying manufacturers - Clarke/Draper/Halfords etc, and its the Halfords ones I keep going back to.

As for torque wrench, one is never going to cover what you need.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2009, 08:41:28
As many know, I am not a big fan of the Halfords set for a few reasons.

It contains loads of cheap nasty bits which are of little use.
The spanners are rather awful and useless
Halfords ratchets are pretty shite!

The only reasonable items are the sockets.

Trouble is, you need to buy multiple items in order to get a good level of tools to meet your needs
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2009, 08:43:51
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The Halfords Pro 150 pc is a decent set at £99.  Note that the new 150pc sets are slightly different to the older ones, I think around the bits being screwdriver bits rather than socket bits.

Also note that the rachet mechanisms are only guaranteed for 1yr.  Also, keep the receipt - every part I've broken (through misuse I have to add ::)) they have asked for original receipt.

I have loads of socket rails from varying manufacturers - Clarke/Draper/Halfords etc, and its the Halfords ones I keep going back to.

As for torque wrench, one is never going to cover what you need.

The Halfords stuff is draper professional re-branded!
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 08:49:34
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As many know, I am not a big fan of the Halfords set for a few reasons.

It contains loads of cheap nasty bits which are of little use.
The spanners are rather awful and useless
Halfords ratchets are pretty shite!

The only reasonable items are the sockets.

Trouble is, you need to buy multiple items in order to get a good level of tools to meet your needs
That seems to be the bit they have changed in the newer kits.  Not used them, so can't comment.

As to the rachets, they can take some severe abuse (::)), the only one I've damaged is a 3/8th one, where the mechanism to retain the attached socket has given up.  Downside, is they are not the 72teeth rachets, so sometimes not fine enough.


The kit does need around £5 worth of socket adapters, which should be included imho.  And loose all the philips/pozidrive/flat screwdrive bits in favour of proper screwdrivers (not that I'm a fan of Halfords screwdrivers - Draper Expert are my preferred weapon of choice).
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 08:51:43
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The Halfords Pro 150 pc is a decent set at £99.  Note that the new 150pc sets are slightly different to the older ones, I think around the bits being screwdriver bits rather than socket bits.

Also note that the rachet mechanisms are only guaranteed for 1yr.  Also, keep the receipt - every part I've broken (through misuse I have to add ::)) they have asked for original receipt.

I have loads of socket rails from varying manufacturers - Clarke/Draper/Halfords etc, and its the Halfords ones I keep going back to.

As for torque wrench, one is never going to cover what you need.

The Halfords stuff is draper professional re-branded!
I wonder if Halfords will replace that draper socket that split on me when I was undoing her sump plug a few years ago, resulting in me smashing my knuckles on the ground (and then again when I thumped the wall in temper because it hurt)
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 08:56:28
For me, I loose confidence in a brand if it lets me down.  The Clarke Pro stuff I've been pretty disappointed with (great rachets though :)), though the torx rail is good, and good value.

The Draper set I had, not much left of it now.

I have in emergancies bought whatever Argos had in stock on a Sunday afternoon, most of that 'Ross' or whatever it is is shite, but I still have one of those argos sets (with HEX sockets) that I still use on bastard bolts and long breaker bars.


Its kind of odd what we all get used to and have confidence in  :-/
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 09:00:09
I also use the Halfords rachet spanners that cost around £70 for all sizes from 8mm - 19mm.  They are always on half price offer, again, never let me down. Like their normal spanners, suffer from being thin and digging in, but work well for me...
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: LouisCorney on 16 February 2009, 13:14:51
Thanks.

Is the 150 worth going for over, say, the 120 piece set?

And what torque wrenches (make and range, or combination of) would you recommend?
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 13:20:37
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Thanks.

Is the 150 worth going for over, say, the 120 piece set?

And what torque wrenches (make and range, or combination of) would you recommend?
If you get it on offer, the 150pc one is cheaper than the 120pc one of offer.

Sealey make cheap torque wrenches, not always with Nm scale though (Kgm normally), easy enough to calculate though.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: LouisCorney on 16 February 2009, 13:32:32
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If you get it on offer, the 150pc one is cheaper than the 120pc one of offer.

Sealey make cheap torque wrenches, not always with Nm scale though (Kgm normally), easy enough to calculate though.

Don't suppose anybody knows when it will be on offer? ( I think the 120 piece is currently on offer at £99?)

Is a 1/2" square drive torque wrench the one to go for? Sealey and draper look good value, but unsure which ones to get...
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: LouisCorney on 16 February 2009, 13:36:12
And any recommendations on a good drive adapter set?
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2009, 13:42:40
Not sure on the staement regarding Kg/m for sealey torque wrenches as all the europeon ones I ahev seen have had nm

Anyway, an ideal 3/8 one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Sealey-STW1011-3-8-Torque-Wrench-7-112Nm-5-83lb-ft_W0QQitemZ110350281952QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Measuring_Tools_Levels?hash=item110350281952&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 13:44:47
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If you get it on offer, the 150pc one is cheaper than the 120pc one of offer.

Sealey make cheap torque wrenches, not always with Nm scale though (Kgm normally), easy enough to calculate though.

Don't suppose anybody knows when it will be on offer? ( I think the 120 piece is currently on offer at £99?)

Is a 1/2" square drive torque wrench the one to go for? Sealey and draper look good value, but unsure which ones to get...
pretty certain the 150pc is on offer at my local one at £99, would be same nationally (unless 150pc offer just finished last week)
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 13:46:17
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Not sure on the staement regarding Kg/m for sealey torque wrenches as all the europeon ones I ahev seen have had nm

Anyway, an ideal 3/8 one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Sealey-STW1011-3-8-Torque-Wrench-7-112Nm-5-83lb-ft_W0QQitemZ110350281952QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Measuring_Tools_Levels?hash=item110350281952&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Both ones I had (first returned as it was impossible to tell what setting it was at) are kg/m, shipped direct from Sealey.  
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2009, 13:47:26
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Not sure on the staement regarding Kg/m for sealey torque wrenches as all the europeon ones I ahev seen have had nm

Anyway, an ideal 3/8 one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Sealey-STW1011-3-8-Torque-Wrench-7-112Nm-5-83lb-ft_W0QQitemZ110350281952QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Measuring_Tools_Levels?hash=item110350281952&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Both ones I had (first returned as it was impossible to tell what setting it was at) are kg/m, shipped direct from Sealey.  

Might be US ones then.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 13:53:14
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Not sure on the staement regarding Kg/m for sealey torque wrenches as all the europeon ones I ahev seen have had nm

Anyway, an ideal 3/8 one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Sealey-STW1011-3-8-Torque-Wrench-7-112Nm-5-83lb-ft_W0QQitemZ110350281952QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Measuring_Tools_Levels?hash=item110350281952&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Both ones I had (first returned as it was impossible to tell what setting it was at) are kg/m, shipped direct from Sealey.  

Might be US ones then.
Possibly, as lbft seems to be most prominent on the wrench.  But came direct from Sealey UK.

Not a problem - kgm to nm is nice and easy ;)
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 February 2009, 14:56:27
Yes, divide by 10 is not to hard (although I guess 9.8 on this planet is more accurate!)
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: Black Knight on 16 February 2009, 15:28:59
Heard good reviews on the Halfords stuff but personally I would never set foot inside the place again.

Shoddy service is something I absolutely detest.
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: TheBoy on 16 February 2009, 17:54:09
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Yes, divide by 10 is not to hard (although I guess 9.8 on this planet is more accurate!)
10 is good enough for me, and no doubt within the tolerance levels of the wrench added to the tolerance in the torque settings....    ....esp as I tend to do most car work on a Sat morning after a friday night, and timesing by 10 is hard enough!
Title: Re: Tool set and Torque Wrench
Post by: The Red Baron on 16 February 2009, 19:11:58
Been using my 150 piece set today taking the top end to bits on my elite. i found the tools all ok :y. dont know if the offer is still on though.  :)