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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Johnboy0811 on 15 February 2009, 22:58:11
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Are there any other lorry drivers on this forum?
I drive a recovery lorry (12T Renault Midlum) and had to do a trip to Dundee this week. Driving up the M6 I found myself getting a bit annoyed at the other profeesional drivers that are on the road.
The example is that I was in the middle lane starting to overtake an artic when we started to go up a hill and I started to lose power and he gradually pulled away from me so I pull back in behind him, fine thats what we have to do.
What annoys me is that when you are on a level road slowly overtaking as both are limited at 56mph I almost get past this artic and ready to pull in whe we start to go downhill and as he is loaded at 44 tonne he then sails past me in the inside lane. I pull back in to lane one and then the car drivers start sticking thier fingers up because I've been holding them up and for all the know for no reason. Why couldn't the artic of eased up and let me in and then go round me if he needed to that's what I would of done. At the end of the day we are on the road to do a job so it would be nice if at least the lorry drivers could be courtuious to each other.
Would like to hear other lorry drivers views on this and also some of the Omega drivers as you will most likely at some point been in the car behind the lorries
Thanks for reading all and sorry if I bored you :y :y :y :y :y
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Are there any other lorry drivers on this forum?
I drive a recovery lorry (12T Renault Midlum) and had to do a trip to Dundee this week. Driving up the M6 I found myself getting a bit annoyed at the other profeesional drivers that are on the road.
The example is that I was in the middle lane starting to overtake an artic when we started to go up a hill and I started to lose power and he gradually pulled away from me so I pull back in behind him, fine thats what we have to do.
What annoys me is that when you are on a level road slowly overtaking as both are limited at 56mph I almost get past this artic and ready to pull in whe we start to go downhill and as he is loaded at 44 tonne he then sails past me in the inside lane. I pull back in to lane one and then the car drivers start sticking thier fingers up because I've been holding them up and for all the know for no reason. Why couldn't the artic of eased up and let me in and then go round me if he needed to that's what I would of done. At the end of the day we are on the road to do a job so it would be nice if at least the lorry drivers could be courtuious to each other.
Would like to hear other lorry drivers views on this and also some of the Omega drivers as you will most likely at some point been in the car behind the lorries
Thanks for reading all and sorry if I bored you :y :y :y :y :y
Always makes me laugh this ::) not many lorries go this slow, certainly not the ones I see, given a decent road, you have to be going well over 70 to overtake. ::) ::) ::)
And before you jump down my throat, HGV and PSV for 30 years now. ;D
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Are there any other lorry drivers on this forum?
I drive a recovery lorry (12T Renault Midlum) and had to do a trip to Dundee this week. Driving up the M6 I found myself getting a bit annoyed at the other profeesional drivers that are on the road.
The example is that I was in the middle lane starting to overtake an artic when we started to go up a hill and I started to lose power and he gradually pulled away from me so I pull back in behind him, fine thats what we have to do.
What annoys me is that when you are on a level road slowly overtaking as both are limited at 56mph I almost get past this artic and ready to pull in whe we start to go downhill and as he is loaded at 44 tonne he then sails past me in the inside lane. I pull back in to lane one and then the car drivers start sticking thier fingers up because I've been holding them up and for all the know for no reason. Why couldn't the artic of eased up and let me in and then go round me if he needed to that's what I would of done. At the end of the day we are on the road to do a job so it would be nice if at least the lorry drivers could be courtuious to each other.
Would like to hear other lorry drivers views on this and also some of the Omega drivers as you will most likely at some point been in the car behind the lorries
Thanks for reading all and sorry if I bored you :y :y :y :y :y
Always makes me laugh this ::) not many lorries go this slow, certainly not the ones I see, given a decent road, you have to be going well over 70 to overtake. ::) ::) ::)
And before you jump down my throat, HGV and PSV for 30 years now. ;D
I agree I have been going downhill and gone over the limiter say to 60 or so and artics have gone flying past. Like you say given a decent road they can wind them right up. I'm 25 so still got loads to learn but how can anyone expect people to see us as professional drivers when the are a certain number driving like pillocks
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Is that coming from a lorry driver or car driver?
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Do you have to put the govonor back to normal at test time then ;D ;D ;D
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Yeah you do not that I take mine off. As far as I know its big trouble if VOSA catch you with a trck that has been tampered with. I have heard from older truckers about how you could play with trcks but not so much about the newer ones
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.... and also some of the Omega drivers as you will most likely at some point been in the car behind the lorries .....
Get on the 4 lane section going east on the M62. You get 3 lanes of HGV's all doing 56 which leaves just the outside lane for the rest of us!!!!!! >:(
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Yeah you do not that I take mine off. As far as I know its big trouble if VOSA catch you with a trck that has been tampered with. I have heard from older truckers about how you could play with trcks but not so much about the newer ones
Some years ago, lived in Hertfordshire, did some weekend agency work for a company that pulled Sainsbury's trailers. They were governed to 56 what a pain in an mt truck on the m25 trying to get back before the pub shut.
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I thought i heard they were thinking of restructing the motorway network to accomidate for cars/trucks but nothing at present. Maybe they will think of something
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No need to play with the limiter, 44t downhill weight takes over. We need to get home or back & swap over for a night out.
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Yeah you do not that I take mine off. As far as I know its big trouble if VOSA catch you with a trck that has been tampered with. I have heard from older truckers about how you could play with trcks but not so much about the newer ones
Some years ago, lived in Hertfordshire, did some weekend agency work for a company that pulled Sainsbury's trailers. They were governed to 56 what a pain in an mt truck on the m25 trying to get back before the pub shut.
It is a pain I left on Wednesday afternoon to go to Dundee and by the time I got in it 5 last night. Missis wasn't happy as table was booked for 7 I said there was plenty of time but you know what thre like
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I thought i heard they were thinking of restructing the motorway network to accomidate for cars/trucks but nothing at present. Maybe they will think of something
We should be thinking of restricting HGV's to the nearside lane as in some EU countries at certain sections.
Why is it that when it all slows down, HGV's need to move from lane 1 to lane 2? They ain't going anywhere any faster than the rest of us ..... :-?
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I thought i heard they were thinking of restructing the motorway network to accomidate for cars/trucks but nothing at present. Maybe they will think of something
We should be thinking of restricting HGV's to the nearside lane as in some EU countries at certain sections.
Why is it that when it all slows down, HGV's need to move from lane 1 to lane 2? They ain't going anywhere any faster than the rest of us ..... :-?
we lorry drivers know drom experience that lane 1 is slowing down probably because the approaching exit sliproad is queing back and if we stop in the queue but want to continue on motorway then it takes a lot of getting moving again and virtually no chance of getting to lane 2 to pass queing traffic. so think ahead and plan early like all motorists should
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I thought i heard they were thinking of restructing the motorway network to accomidate for cars/trucks but nothing at present. Maybe they will think of something
We should be thinking of restricting HGV's to the nearside lane as in some EU countries at certain sections.
Why is it that when it all slows down, HGV's need to move from lane 1 to lane 2? They ain't going anywhere any faster than the rest of us ..... :-?
we lorry drivers know drom experience that lane 1 is slowing down probably because the approaching exit sliproad is queing back and if we stop in the queue but want to continue on motorway then it takes a lot of getting moving again and virtually no chance of getting to lane 2 to pass queing traffic. so think ahead and plan early like all motorists should
You must have bloody good eye sight to see miles & miles up the road where there are no bloody exits!
I see it time & time again. The motorway slows to a stop & HGV's who were in lane 1 move over .... for no reason, other than they're bigger than you & they can. :-? No thinking involved. If you thought head, you'd slow up like as in the original post to allow the bloke who has been trying to overtake you to get back in and allow the motorway to get passed. I've had HGV's try to overtake me on the motorway when I'm towing on a UP hill section because they've sped up on a down hill section first. Rather than have him sat there for the next umpteen miles I've knocked it out of cruise, allowed him back in THEN put mu foot back down to overtake. I've also had HGV's 'think ahead' when they pull out on me on a up hill section causing me to have to slow up to 56 mph while we crawl passed those in lane 1, if they'd really thught ahead they'd have seen me doing 60 and let me passed first .... but I'm only 3 ton and not 44 ton ....
and breathe .......
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you have the far right hand lane available in a car, unless the car is towing a trailer and should only be doing max 60mph anyway.
problematic lorry drivers are the ones that are paid hourly working through agency and slow down to silly slow speeds just to stretch there paid hours further cos they don't know when their next working day will be.
i'd like to know how many car drivers has actually sat for a whole day in a lgv and can appreciate the dangers we lgv driver must protect the public from.
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you have the far right hand lane available in a car, unless the car is towing a trailer and should only be doing max 60mph anyway.
problematic lorry drivers are the ones that are paid hourly working through agency and slow down to silly slow speeds just to stretch there paid hours further cos they don't know when their next working day will be.
i'd like to know how many car drivers has actually sat for a whole day in a lgv and can appreciate the dangers we lgv driver must protect the public from.
That's interesting, a long time ago, 1985 I was living in Poole and whilst looklng for a job took on a drivers job for what was 'Drinkwater Sabey' was out one day driving a 6 wheel tipper, I was young and used to throw the truck around. Got moaned at by a 'contractor' cos I was doing too many loads and would make him look bad, tough i said and got on with it, going as quick as I could. ;D Paid weekly made no differnce to me but I hate people who take advantage like that, fair days pay for a fair days work and all that :y
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Ahhh dear old Lorries..... ;D
I kinda have a love hate relationship with them,love being a drivers mate but hate them being on the roads at all other times.
Im sorry too say you do get the idiots who think as there bigger they will do just as they bloody well please...mate of mine used too drive the tippers,his favourite saying was ""They soon move when they see the wheel nuts spinning past there passenger window"".
The guy was deadly serious as well.... :o
Tonight coming into work had an Arctic driving like a complete cock...The roundabout leading onto the A14 has two lanes going over and round and onto the A14 slip (slips dual lane).
I pull up in the inside lane as im in no rush...arctic pulls up in outside lane,traffic flow around the roundabout means im level with his cab all the way round (not good as its got an adverse camber) and neck and neck down the dual slip road....low and behold he doesn't have enough speed too pull onto A14 and get out of the way (cars can quite easily) so instead he insists on trundling along the full slip road forcing my self and 3/4 cars behind me too virtually come too a halt before joining the A14....not a huge problem on a Sunday afternoon but complete suicide on a weekday evening.
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Ahhh dear old Lorries..... ;D
I kinda have a love hate relationship with them,love being a drivers mate but hate them being on the roads at all other times.
Im sorry too say you do get the idiots who think as there bigger they will do just as they bloody well please...mate of mine used too drive the tippers,his favourite saying was ""They soon move when they see the wheel nuts spinning past there passenger window"".
The guy was deadly serious as well.... :o
Tonight coming into work had an Arctic driving like a complete thingy...The roundabout leading onto the A14 has two lanes going over and round and onto the A14 slip (slips dual lane).
I pull up in the inside lane as im in no rush...arctic pulls up in outside lane,traffic flow around the roundabout means im level with his cab all the way round (not good as its got an adverse camber) and neck and neck down the dual slip road....low and behold he doesn't have enough speed too pull onto A14 and get out of the way (cars can quite easily) so instead he insists on trundling along the full slip road forcing my self and 3/4 cars behind me too virtually come too a halt before joining the A14....not a huge problem on a Sunday afternoon but complete suicide on a weekday evening.
in lgv i peronally would not be in that situation as my blind spot (nearside front corner) is always kept clear. but the vehicles that was behind you could be classed as undertaking
and unless the roundabout is roadmarked differenly then any exit that is past 12 o clock from entry then the driver should use a right hand signal and the right hand lane if it is a 2 lane approach
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Ahhh dear old Lorries..... ;D
I kinda have a love hate relationship with them,love being a drivers mate but hate them being on the roads at all other times.
Im sorry too say you do get the idiots who think as there bigger they will do just as they bloody well please...mate of mine used too drive the tippers,his favourite saying was ""They soon move when they see the wheel nuts spinning past there passenger window"".
The guy was deadly serious as well.... :o
Tonight coming into work had an Arctic driving like a complete thingy...The roundabout leading onto the A14 has two lanes going over and round and onto the A14 slip (slips dual lane).
I pull up in the inside lane as im in no rush...arctic pulls up in outside lane,traffic flow around the roundabout means im level with his cab all the way round (not good as its got an adverse camber) and neck and neck down the dual slip road....low and behold he doesn't have enough speed too pull onto A14 and get out of the way (cars can quite easily) so instead he insists on trundling along the full slip road forcing my self and 3/4 cars behind me too virtually come too a halt before joining the A14....not a huge problem on a Sunday afternoon but complete suicide on a weekday evening.
in lgv i peronally would not be in that situation as my blind spot (nearside front corner) is always kept clear. but the vehicles that was behind you could be classed as undertaking
and unless the roundabout is roadmarked differenly then any exit that is past 12 o clock from entry then the driver should use a right hand signal and the right hand lane if it is a 2 lane approach
On a dual road you are not undertaking if you are simply keeping up with the traffic :)
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When I was on the wagons, road works were my PET hate. WHY O WHY do CAR drivers think that they can stay lane 3 right up to the cones when they know that the lane is going to close at least 800meters before.
Pull into lane 2 (Wide...off side wheels sitting ON the white line to lane 3 and stay exactly where I was, behind the vehicle I was following in lane 1. then wait untill the lane closes down in 3 before moving back into 1. it's surprising how quickly the traffic flows through these bottle necks if people filter in within a reasonable time.
It's not the "Proffessional Driver" that is at fault in MOST cases, it's the arrogant / Iggnorant "I need to get somewhere quickly" car/van driver.
If you want to force your way through traffic get a blue light.
rant over >:(
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When I was on the wagons, road works were my PET hate. WHY O WHY do CAR drivers think that they can stay lane 3 right up to the cones when they know that the lane is going to close at least 800meters before.
Pull into lane 2 (Wide...off side wheels sitting ON the white line to lane 3 and stay exactly where I was, behind the vehicle I was following in lane 1. then wait untill the lane closes down in 3 before moving back into 1. it's surprising how quickly the traffic flows through these bottle necks if people filter in within a reasonable time.
It's not the "Proffessional Driver" that is at fault in MOST cases, it's the arrogant / Iggnorant "I need to get somewhere quickly" car/van driver.
If you want to force your way through traffic get a blue light.
rant over >:(
Fully agree..... :o :o :o............... :y
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I have quite a bit of sympathy with truck drivers,they need to earn a living and if they lose speed it can take a long time to build it up again etc,but it does p155 me off when I am sat behind one in the right hand lane of a dual carriageway doing 56 mph overtaking another one who is doing 55.5 mph. It might save him 5 minutes every 150 miles but it annoys hundreds of motorists in the process,
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I was pulling traction a few years ago and we delivered the building slabs for the new Parliment building. We had the last 3 trailers going up on a sunday morning and as I lived not far from the docks I said to the other 2 drivers that i would get the crane driver to piggy back the trailers and that they could get off home. I waited until the last of the slabs had been unloaded and got the crane driver to sort the trailers, strapped them down and off i went around Parliment Square and waited at a set of lights to turn LEFT onto The Embankment. As I pulled away and started to turn I heard this screech and a crunch, looked in the mirrors, nothing. started to edge forward and there was a loud crunch. Some STUPID WOMAN had tried to go up the inside while I was turning left. her exact words to the boys in blue was " HE CUT ME UP... work that out.
75 ft long
8 ft 6 in wide
25 ft high
24 ton
accelerates like a brick
AND I CUT HER UP...
Boys in blue looked and just laughed.
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I have quite a bit of sympathy with truck drivers,they need to earn a living and if they lose speed it can take a long time to build it up again etc,but it does p155 me off when I am sat behind one in the right hand lane of a dual carriageway doing 56 mph overtaking another one who is doing 55.5 mph. It might save him 5 minutes every 150 miles but it annoys hundreds of motorists in the process,
Yep would have to agree, but why have a speed restriction that is often removed, or does not work because of the weight of the load.
Why are tucks limited and vans / cars not? because it is dangerous as I think the comments on this thread would show. ::)
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I was pulling traction a few years ago and we delivered the building slabs for the new Parliment building. We had the last 3 trailers going up on a sunday morning and as I lived not far from the docks I said to the other 2 drivers that i would get the crane driver to piggy back the trailers and that they could get off home. I waited until the last of the slabs had been unloaded and got the crane driver to sort the trailers, strapped them down and off i went around Parliment Square and waited at a set of lights to turn LEFT onto The Embankment. As I pulled away and started to turn I heard this screech and a crunch, looked in the mirrors, nothing. started to edge forward and there was a loud crunch. Some STUPID WOMAN had tried to go up the inside while I was turning left. her exact words to the boys in blue was " HE CUT ME UP... work that out.
75 ft long
8 ft 6 in wide
25 ft high
24 ton
accelerates like a brick
AND I CUT HER UP...
Boys in blue looked and just laughed.
I have always said that you need to drive / ride other vehicles to understand how they need to use the road...Having done it all I feel I have quite a good understanding, and drive accordingl... ;D
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More to the point is, WHY are Scottish, Irish and European Trucks
exempt able to get around the limiter rule.
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I suppose the restriction is there because 44 tons takes a lot longer to stop from high speed than cars etc.Although a lot of the trucks from both parts of Ireland seem to have faulty restrictors,as they go like break. ;)
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I was pulling traction a few years ago and we delivered the building slabs for the new Parliment building. We had the last 3 trailers going up on a sunday morning and as I lived not far from the docks I said to the other 2 drivers that i would get the crane driver to piggy back the trailers and that they could get off home. I waited until the last of the slabs had been unloaded and got the crane driver to sort the trailers, strapped them down and off i went around Parliment Square and waited at a set of lights to turn LEFT onto The Embankment. As I pulled away and started to turn I heard this screech and a crunch, looked in the mirrors, nothing. started to edge forward and there was a loud crunch. Some STUPID WOMAN had tried to go up the inside while I was turning left. her exact words to the boys in blue was " HE CUT ME UP... work that out.
75 ft long
8 ft 6 in wide
25 ft high
24 ton
accelerates like a brick
AND I CUT HER UP...
Boys in blue looked and just laughed.
I have always said that you need to drive / ride other vehicles to understand how they need to use the road...Having done it all I feel I have quite a good understanding, and drive accordingl... ;D
Totally agree Mike
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I was in Italy running at 44ton at 56mph and a Spanish truck went past me like I was going backwards
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More to the point is, WHY are Scottish, Irish and European Trucks exempt able to get around the limiter rule.
I didn't know that.....
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Anyone trying to undertake a truck which is in the process of turning left shouldnt be on the road imo.
I havent driven trucks on the open road but I use to shunt them and drive them around the 2 mile airfield where I worked as well as occasional drivers mate duties to help with slinging etc for loads of concrete,so I hope I have a bit of an ideaof whats involved.
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I was in Italy running at 44ton at 56mph and a Spanish truck went past me like I was going backwards
Was he cooking his breakfast and reading the paper at the same time.?
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More to the point is, WHY are Scottish, Irish and European Trucks exempt able to get around the limiter rule.
I didn't know that.....
If you come from Norn Irn to stranraer and you are behind a line of trucks which came off the same boat you did,you can hardly keep up with them,56mph my arse. ;)
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That old chestnut. Car & HGV drivers!!!!
1. Every HGV driver held a car licence first so has been on both sides, car drivers know no better. (pos servs. exceptions)
2. Yup, some HGV drivers use the size of thier vehicle to intimidate other road users. This is wrong.
3. All HGV vehicles registered after 1987/8 (E reg) are limited to 56mph or 90kph. Uphill loaded we can't achieve that which is why we have up to 16 gears. If one truck's 44t & another is lighter he uses the middle lane to overtake, same as on a flat if one truck will do 57 instead of 56 he's going to overtake as the law allows him, you have the third lane to yourself, many supermarket trucks are limited to 52mph for fuel economy, sorry but the rest of us are'nt waiting, again you have the third lane.
4. Entering roundabouts is another favourite. Off the top of my head i can't remember the road no. but one of the M62 jctns to Huddersfield (J.24 A629 i think) is a prime example. Just before the main H'field roundabout it splits into 3 lanes. Truck needs to be in the middle lane according "Get in lane signs". In some one's infinite wisdom as soon as you enter the roundabout there are only 2 lanes, bad enough for cars but you're totally breaked in artic with a 45ft trailer behind you & cars squeezing to your left & right inches from you. We have to wait until a car driver with a modicum of common sense waits & flashes us out. We don't pinch a bit of YOUR lane for fun we physically need it to move, stops the cars stuck behind hooting 'coz they hav'nt moved
5. If in your car entering a roundabout intending to turn right ie third exit PLEASE indicate so the truck who needs a longer gap than a car can go across the roundabout. If you don't indicate right as the highway code instructs & have to stop for a loaded truck it's a bit late to start flashing your lights & blowing your horn 3/4 of the way round if you didn't INDICATE.
6. I don't profess to know how to do whatever it is you have to do when you finally get to your place of work. I'd have no idea, not a clue, would'nt know where to start, seems you all know how to do my job though. Bit more to it than sitting on motorways.
Suddenly everyone's an expert.....& i've got tomorrow, today now off so i'll be tucked up in bed all morning. :)
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Ahhh dear old Lorries..... ;D
I kinda have a love hate relationship with them,love being a drivers mate but hate them being on the roads at all other times.
Im sorry too say you do get the idiots who think as there bigger they will do just as they bloody well please...mate of mine used too drive the tippers,his favourite saying was ""They soon move when they see the wheel nuts spinning past there passenger window"".
The guy was deadly serious as well.... :o
Tonight coming into work had an Arctic driving like a complete thingy...The roundabout leading onto the A14 has two lanes going over and round and onto the A14 slip (slips dual lane).
I pull up in the inside lane as im in no rush...arctic pulls up in outside lane,traffic flow around the roundabout means im level with his cab all the way round (not good as its got an adverse camber) and neck and neck down the dual slip road....low and behold he doesn't have enough speed too pull onto A14 and get out of the way (cars can quite easily) so instead he insists on trundling along the full slip road forcing my self and 3/4 cars behind me too virtually come too a halt before joining the A14....not a huge problem on a Sunday afternoon but complete suicide on a weekday evening.
in lgv i peronally would not be in that situation as my blind spot (nearside front corner) is always kept clear. but the vehicles that was behind you could be classed as undertaking
and unless the roundabout is roadmarked differenly then any exit that is past 12 o clock from entry then the driver should use a right hand signal and the right hand lane if it is a 2 lane approach
The roundabout in question (spittals for anyone local) coming from the direction i was (Brampton) is dual lane then just before the roundabout splits into 3 lanes.
Nearside is for turning left onto A1 north or going straight over...middle lane for going straight or taking slip onto A14 and the outside lane for A14 and coming all the way round and back the way you've come.
Personally i think the dual slip is an accident waiting too happen...especially when its rush hour,people in the inside lane of the A14 are reluctant too allow people too filter in so when you have two lanes trying too filter in at the same time it can get quite hairy.
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I understand that lorry and van drivers have to earn a living but that does not mean you lose all consideration for other road users. I have had quite a few instances where my life has been put in danger because of very bad lorry and van driving. Two of (many) to note:
1. Cycling along on the main road through the village (30mph limit installed after my bro was killed there a couple of years earlier by two lads racing) Lorry comes screaming past well over the limit prob around 40. No traffic coming the other way and decides to drive as close to me as possible inevitably clipping my handlebars with the rear of the trailer. I was airborn but because of what happened to my bro I also had a helmet (they were new back then and cost a fortune) Bike was knackered but I only had bruising and a considerable amount of shock.
2. While at Uni in Sheffield I cycled everywhere and I lived at the top of Eccleshall hill which meant a nice long (and fast) ride in to uni and a good workout on the way back. I had uprated brakes and specially designed tyres for my 700C wheels. Needless to say I wore a helmet, elbow and needpads, I had reflective gear, lights which I used religiously in all but the finest weather (rare in sheffield) I had a mirror, a pollution mask and a homemade airhorn. Going through built-up area with parked cars on my left so I come out halfway in the road. I am doing 30mph freewheeling behind a car which is obeying the limit. I am at a safe distance I know I can stop in time. Van driver comes up behind and sits right on my tail, literally inches from my wheel. I wasnt going to pull to the left until I get past the parked vehicles. So the van goes outside me half straddling the middle of the road causing oncoming motorists to swerve. He cuts into me and slams the brakes on, I dont know if it was because of traffic slowing ahead because he was obscuring the view. I slammed my brakes on but couldent avoid impact with the side of his van which sent me into the back of a parked car. I was airborn again but thanks to some army training I managed to do some sort of roll and minimise injury. I got up memorised the number plate as he was speeding away, I turn around and see 2 coppers. I think 'excellent! Just where I needed them. Turns out they didn't see anything :o and they were not interesteed in the slightest. Even though this chap was guilty of dangerous driving and leaving the scene of an accident all he got was a verbal warning over the phone! :o :o The front wheel and forks were fubarred, they wouldent even give me his details to get damages off him! The parked vehicle was an old jag so the chrome bumper I hit was as solid as a rock, the black tyre mark rubbed off nicely.
So forgive me if I do not advocate pointless manouvres and dangerous driving made by drivers of all vehicles but esp lorries and vans. It takes every ounce of my being to not go completely mental when somebody does something pointless and dangerous whether it be intentional or not. This is why I could never be a traffic policeman, I would not be objective enough :-[
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you have the far right hand lane available in a car, unless the car is towing a trailer and should only be doing max 60mph anyway. ......
Yes I'm talking about when I'm towing, & therefore am like you - I'm not allowed in lane 3. At no time did I mention going above 60. I can manage 60 up hill & down dale all day long with the 'van on. 'Your' problem is that without a downward hill you're restricted to 56 but seem to think that everyone else should have to slow down when you do.
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Been reading all your posts and see it has given a lot of different opinions. We all have our own minds as to what we should do but I think if all motorists can be courtous to each other it would work so much better but can't see that happening anytime soon.
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I personally prefer the system in europe. trucks are not allowed to overtake each other during morning and afternoon rush hour. far better. I also have a pet hate of trucks doing 45 mph on a roads. seen other trucks same size do 60.
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....... seen other trucks same size do 60.
They shouldn't, but were probably just keeping up with the flow of traffic. 50 mph in a Nation Speed Limit applies, same as me with the caravan on the back.
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I personally prefer the system in europe. trucks are not allowed to overtake each other during morning and afternoon rush hour. far better. I also have a pet hate of trucks doing 45 mph on a roads. seen other trucks same size do 60.
But an HGV is speeding at 45 on a single carriageway "A" road!
Kevin
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I personally prefer the system in europe. trucks are not allowed to overtake each other during morning and afternoon rush hour. far better. I also have a pet hate of trucks doing 45 mph on a roads. seen other trucks same size do 60.
But an HGV is speeding at 45 on a single carriageway "A" road!
Kevin
So .... I'm wrong again ....... :-/ ;)
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ok,, agree and disagree with some things said , firstly cannot understand why people try to tamper with the limiter :-? tacho doesent lie ,, and go mad at drivers saying there limiter is set to low , i.e there sat nav says so ! >:(
secondly i feel many psv, hgv divers drive FAR to close to each other,
and finally i wish some people would give alittel consideration at narrow roundabouts/juctions
apart from that love trucking ;)
(anyone drove a scania V8 topliner :o the power :o)
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my dad was hgv when he came out of RAF.in 1975 on my mums birthday his lorry jacknifed and flipped on a newly resurfaced rd. 6 months later he came out of an army hospital in tidworth i think it was called. but one of his best friends died 2 days later for the same firm on the same spot my dad crashed. 3 lorries jacknifed in 1 week on the exact same spot.
2 broken legs, 2 broken arms, glass embeded so deep in his face neck and body they couldnt remove it, couldnt move his neck for 2 months. my mum still has the picture that was in the local paper at the time it happened, took nearly 4hrs to free him from the lorry
compensation. 6000
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More to the point is, WHY are Scottish, Irish and European Trucks exempt able to get around the limiter rule.
I didn't know that.....
In the same way as the English and Welsh drivers/operators do..... ;)
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More to the point is, WHY are Scottish, Irish and European Trucks exempt able to get around the limiter rule.
I didn't know that.....
In the same way as the English and Welsh drivers/operators do..... ;)
i never once used a tacho when i drove the lorry. thats probably a ban isnt it.
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i never once used a tacho when i drove the lorry. thats probably a ban isnt it.
Daft as it sounds no! If you drive over hours and it's recorded on your tacho it's up to a £5,000 fine. If (like most foreign drivers) you take out your tacho it's a £50 fine for not keeping correct records of your driving hours! So they get pulled, fined and write a tacho (before the days of digital) as soon as the police go they take them back out and carry on without.
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i never once used a tacho when i drove the lorry. thats probably a ban isnt it.
Daft as it sounds no! If you drive over hours and it's recorded on your tacho it's up to a £5,000 fine. If (like most foreign drivers) you take out your tacho it's a £50 fine for not keeping correct records of your driving hours! So they get pulled, fined and write a tacho (before the days of digital) as soon as the police go they take them back out and carry on without.
my dad used to work for glynwedd baths, i used to go with him a lot when i was off school. (mum didnt want me home for some reason)
he used to carry cast iron baths up flights of stairs over his back. i can just about manage a plastic one ::) ;D
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Made everything as clear as i could & made little progress. Not surprised really reading the last few posts, reinforces all my points.
Thought it was worth a try but should've known better. ::)
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i never once used a tacho when i drove the lorry. thats probably a ban isnt it.
Daft as it sounds no! If you drive over hours and it's recorded on your tacho it's up to a £5,000 fine. If (like most foreign drivers) you take out your tacho it's a £50 fine for not keeping correct records of your driving hours! So they get pulled, fined and write a tacho (before the days of digital) as soon as the police go they take them back out and carry on without.
True. And/or get parked up for a compulsory set of weekly rest..... Seen keys removed before.... ;)
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Made everything as clear as i could & made little progress. Not surprised really reading the last few posts, reinforces all my points.
Thought it was worth a try but should've known better. ::)
Pearls before swine, Guy. Pearls before swine... ;D ;D :y
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Made everything as clear as i could & made little progress. Not surprised really reading the last few posts, reinforces all my points.
Thought it was worth a try but should've known better. ::)
Pearls before swine, Guy. Pearls before swine... ;D ;D :y
Some (not all) car drivers(motorists) will never understand despite professing otherwise but they just don't. Been there, i used to only held a car licence. Remember a truck delivered the car you're all such experts in, still delivers the fuel you put in it, the bricks that built the garage you park it in, the food on your table & the table, chairs, settees, floorcoverings, paint on the walls, food in your fridges, the fridges...Every rather' thing you own is delivered by truck.
Careful what you wish for. ::)