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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Pippin on 21 February 2009, 20:59:34
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Hi All
I was looking for some advice, i am wondering if it is at all possible to run windows XP alongside Windows Vista on the same machine. The reason for this is that some of the software i need for work will not run on Vista...
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks :y
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
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I'm no expert but two OS? Doubt it.
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
Wrong again. I'll stick to what I know.
break all
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Yes you can, and the instructions can be found here (as well as in several other places !!)
http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-dual-boot-windows-xp-and-vista/2008/12/15
3 different scenarios are discussed there .. hopefully one fits your problem .. :)
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Thanks Entwood, i'll have a look at that one, just need to find some where to get a Windows XP disc....
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PM sent
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
Wrong again. I'll stick to what I know.
break all
Its computer advice he wants Steve not catheter advice ::)
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
Wrong again. I'll stick to what I know.
break all
Its computer advice he wants Steve not cafiter advice ::)
PMSL ;D ;D
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
Wrong again. I'll stick to what I know.
break all
Its computer advice he wants Steve not cafiter advice ::)
Dear oh dear. I take it you mean catheter. Standards have definately gone down. :-?
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Dear oh dear. I take it you mean catheter. Standards have definately gone down. :-?
That`ll surely be taking the piss! ;D
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I believe you can dual boot them. But you need a seperate hard drive or hard drive partition for each windows install.
Others will be able to add to what I have written.
Wrong again. I'll stick to what I know.
break all
Its computer advice he wants Steve not cafiter advice ::)
Dear oh dear. I take it you mean catheter. Standards have definately gone down. :-?
Yep, wifey has just b*ll*cked me four me speling, she sed im fik :(
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Possible to dual boot, or run one OS, and then a secondary OS under it via virtualisation.
Whichever method, both versions of Windows will each need their own licence though.
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Entwood.....PM sent
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Entwood.....PM sent
and received .. :y :y
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Thanks TheBoy, i've already got Vista installed on the machine, with a 320BG HDD, so presume the HDD will be big enough to partition and load XP and the software needed...
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Thanks TheBoy, i've already got Vista installed on the machine, with a 320BG HDD, so presume the HDD will be big enough to partition and load XP and the software needed...
Depending what else you need on there, yes.
You will have to resize the vista partition, which needs 3rd party software
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
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It was the system builder version (i.e. brown box) bought standalone. Got p155ed off with the OEM version that came with it...plus the recovery CD that originally came with it didn't like it when i changed the (dead) hard drive..sodding hidden partitions!
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It was the system builder version (i.e. brown box) bought standalone. Got p155ed off with the OEM version that came with it...plus the recovery CD that originally came with it didn't like it when i changed the (dead) hard drive..sodding hidden partitions!
Need a seperate licence :)
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It was the system builder version (i.e. brown box) bought standalone. Got p155ed off with the OEM version that came with it...plus the recovery CD that originally came with it didn't like it when i changed the (dead) hard drive..sodding hidden partitions!
Need a seperate licence :)
You mean not the sticker that came with it [smiley=embarassed.gif] or am i missing something?
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It was the system builder version (i.e. brown box) bought standalone. Got p155ed off with the OEM version that came with it...plus the recovery CD that originally came with it didn't like it when i changed the (dead) hard drive..sodding hidden partitions!
Need a seperate licence :)
You mean not the sticker that came with it [smiley=embarassed.gif] or am i missing something?
system builder is a odd version that should only be available to authorised system builders, and additional licence is required for each use. If you are system builder, check licence requirements on your system builder portal, as there are variations:)
Same with volume versions - it will allow you to install as many as you like (activation v1.0), but you have to manually ensure you have purchased enough licences (which is why later versions of volume software come with either MAK or activation v2, both of which need activation)
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
So does a cracked version. Doesn't make it legal, or right ;)
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
So does a cracked version. Doesn't make it legal, or right ;)
I did BUY it so as far as I am concerned I will use it.
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
So does a cracked version. Doesn't make it legal, or right ;)
I did BUY it so as far as I am concerned I will use it.
you bought the cut down version at a significantly cheaper price, and accepted the limitation of no transfers and no support ;)
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
So does a cracked version. Doesn't make it legal, or right ;)
I did BUY it so as far as I am concerned I will use it.
you bought the cut down version at a significantly cheaper price, and accepted the limitation of no transfers and no support ;)
Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
To be honest though - does it actually matter?
It was bought, it was not pirated, why worry?
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I made the wife's laptop dual boot (it came with Vista and she wanted XP) - hardest part was finding drivers but eventually found most of them via Google. Found a set of instructions on the net - bit complicated but doable.
Genuine XP install - reused the one from her old desktop - by the way..
Only legal if it was a FULL Retail version of XP (ie, you went down pc world and bought it, and not upgrade version (in which case, was what you were upgrading a full retail version))
My OEM install worked quite well on my rebuilt PC
So does a cracked version. Doesn't make it legal, or right ;)
I did BUY it so as far as I am concerned I will use it.
you bought the cut down version at a significantly cheaper price, and accepted the limitation of no transfers and no support ;)
Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
To be honest though - does it actually matter?
It was bought, it was not pirated, why worry?
Ah, but it is - its an unlicenced install. You have clearly broken the terms of the licence (by transfering a non-transferable licence). Microsoft sell OEM licences cheap to the PC Builder (and note that OEM copies should not be available outside of this channel, though we know they are), so (lack of) transferability is one of the things you lose. If you want to (legally) have a transferable version of Windows, you need to buy the more expensive Retail version (big users have other licencing options not available to home users).
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Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
Just checked, you was - its in the OEM EULA that the PC builder must get you to agree to ;)
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Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
Just checked, you was - its in the OEM EULA that the PC builder must get you to agree to ;)
Never saw that!
Just had to hand over £20 more for pro over home ;D
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Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
Just checked, you was - its in the OEM EULA that the PC builder must get you to agree to ;)
Never saw that!
Just had to hand over £20 more for pro over home ;D
Its part of the OEM agreement that the End User has to read and agree to the EULA before they can use Windows.
Additionally, I know for a fact that when you reinstalled it, you had to read the EULA at least once (possibly twice) ;)
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Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
Just checked, you was - its in the OEM EULA that the PC builder must get you to agree to ;)
Never saw that!
Just had to hand over £20 more for pro over home ;D
Its part of the OEM agreement that the End User has to read and agree to the EULA before they can use Windows.
Additionally, I know for a fact that when you reinstalled it, you had to read the EULA at least once (possibly twice) ;)
Who is sad enough to read that!
I paid it's mine ;D
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In respect of software/copyright:
I know it`s popular to consider Microsoft (and other large corporations) as fair-game when it comes to software copyright.....but, recently I had a 'World Champion' competitive sheepdog/handler photograph published by a copyright thief; it wasn`t a pleasant feeling to have one`s personal-work and efforts stolen and sold for someone else`s profit. >:(
Please respect copyright ownership; there is always a victim!
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Wasn't told that when I bought the old PC :P
Just checked, you was - its in the OEM EULA that the PC builder must get you to agree to ;)
Never saw that!
Just had to hand over £20 more for pro over home ;D
Its part of the OEM agreement that the End User has to read and agree to the EULA before they can use Windows.
Additionally, I know for a fact that when you reinstalled it, you had to read the EULA at least once (possibly twice) ;)
Who is sad enough to read that!
I paid it's mine ;D
Thats not actually true with software licencing. You don't buy the software, you buy the right to use the software (within the constraints the vendor puts on it).
So what did you think was the difference between a £250 retail version of XP Pro and a £40-£90 (depending on how much buying power you have) OEM version of XP Pro?
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I was told (by the vendor) that the difference between the PC World version of XP Home and the version i bought was that support should have been via the system builder (i.e. me) rather than Microsoft themselves. That reads to me as "i'm on my own" which suits me..
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I was told (by the vendor) that the difference between the PC World version of XP Home and the version i bought was that support should have been via the system builder (i.e. me) rather than Microsoft themselves. That reads to me as "i'm on my own" which suits me..
You must have got a licence with it as well (or they thought you did ;))
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I was told (by the vendor) that the difference between the PC World version of XP Home and the version i bought was that support should have been via the system builder (i.e. me) rather than Microsoft themselves. That reads to me as "i'm on my own" which suits me..
Actually, that sounds suspiciously like std OEM (slightly different to System Builder) :-/
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OEM without the "OEM" in the serial number..