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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: nick v6 on 25 February 2009, 07:33:26
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i checked round the house this morning and as you all know ive been having problems with druggies down the side of my house hence why i put cameras up
i found another ruddy needle >:(
ive called the police AGAIN and told them about it and they said they will be out after to collect it
then i asked the question
"what would happen if i was to find some druggie dead from a over dose down the side of my house"
police then said i would be liable for it >:( >:( >:( >:( as it is on my property >:( >:( >:(
i said is there anything i can do apart from putting a ten foot wall all round my house and they said not really i can only really contact the police if i see them on my property and then the police will move them on to someone else's property >:(
which is looking like now ive gotta give sleep up to basicly protect myself from being sent down for a crime i never done
i was thinking today about building a hut and tiling it and making it really clean and rentting it out to them.. its starting to look like the only way i wont get done >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
forgot to add that the police didn't even ask for video footage this time
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police then said i would be liable for it as it is on my property
So some junkie overdozes and its your fault ???..... i dont belive that for a minute .
I have a quite big garden so if a junkie kills himself in my garden its my fault ?? :o :o
Would love to see them try and stick that on someone .
How can that possibly be .... :y
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fraid so as its my property i'm liable for everything that goes on fault of mine or not
i know someone who got down when a burglar broke into this old womans house and cut his arm open on the broken window and she got done for it
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just saw the news and there is an old school that they are having to leave the lights on incase vandals break in and hurt themselves
whats this world coming to
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The law IS an ass but i cannot belive that you are liable for that ... someone goes into a corner of my garden , kills themselves and its my fault :o :o .... thats just bonkers .... are you ment to sit up 24hrs a day and take them tea or something, make sure they are ok etc >:( >:( .... seriously though i would be questioning that statement made by the police officer >:( >:(
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The law IS an ass but i cannot belive that you are liable for that ... someone goes into a corner of my garden , kills themselves and its my fault :o :o .... thats just bonkers .... are you ment to sit up 24hrs a day and take them tea or something, make sure they are ok etc >:( >:( .... seriously though i would be questioning that statement made by the police officer >:( >:(
i'm going to CAB today i'm getting my mom to have the kids for a few hours
i'm so angry it put me in tears when the police told me i'm liable :'(
i know what they look like i might drag them on to the old t**ts garden next door and kick the living day lights out of them and let him take the wrap for it
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Ok this is just a thought, I dont know the exact layout or anything but how about rigging up some kind of garden sprinkler system set up with a PIR the kind of thing you get on garden lights so every time somone goes down the side of you house after a set time at night, they get very wet!
You are not harming them so you can't get done but I would think after a week of two they wouldnt even bother to come back?!?!?!
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Ok this is just a thought, I dont know the exact layout or anything but how about rigging up some kind of garden sprinkler system set up with a PIR the kind of thing you get on garden lights so every time somone goes down the side of you house after a set time at night, they get very wet!
You are not harming them so you can't get done but I would think after a week of two they wouldnt even bother to come back?!?!?!
I dare say the do-gooders would demand you got done for affecting there human rights or something for making them wet >:( >:(
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Ok this is just a thought, I dont know the exact layout or anything but how about rigging up some kind of garden sprinkler system set up with a PIR the kind of thing you get on garden lights so every time somone goes down the side of you house after a set time at night, they get very wet!
You are not harming them so you can't get done but I would think after a week of two they wouldnt even bother to come back?!?!?!
that could be a good idea
instead of a pir going to a security light it could goto one of those water timer things which plug into the mains
when the pir is activated it turns the water timer on shooting the water out
nice one :y
just hope if they get flu i wont get done for that :-?
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Ok this is just a thought, I dont know the exact layout or anything but how about rigging up some kind of garden sprinkler system set up with a PIR the kind of thing you get on garden lights so every time somone goes down the side of you house after a set time at night, they get very wet!
You are not harming them so you can't get done but I would think after a week of two they wouldnt even bother to come back?!?!?!
I dare say the do-gooders would demand you got done for affecting there human rights or something for making them wet >:( >:(
yeah they get up with a cold and can't sign on the dole the next morning i'll have to pay there dole money for a fortnight >:(
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Ok this is just a thought, I dont know the exact layout or anything but how about rigging up some kind of garden sprinkler system set up with a PIR the kind of thing you get on garden lights so every time somone goes down the side of you house after a set time at night, they get very wet!
You are not harming them so you can't get done but I would think after a week of two they wouldnt even bother to come back?!?!?!
I dare say the do-gooders would demand you got done for affecting there human rights or something for making them wet >:( >:(
yeah they get up with a cold and can't sign on the dole the next morning i'll have to pay there dole money for a fortnight >:(
Yep ... sounds about right >:(
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thing is, its me again thats liable if i don't see the needle and one of my kids fall and land on it.
i'll be classed as a bad parent
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What about a rottweiller?
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What about a rottweiller?
i would love one
but i have trouble with the t**t next door and animals
don't get me started on that one again
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What about a rottweiller?
got one
the mrs :y
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i'm off to take the daughter to school and drop the boys off at my mom's then over to the local CAB office
i'll let you all know what they say :y
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Unless you have set out to injure them if they come onto your property you can't be liable to prosecution for their demise. Maybe they assumed you were implying you would set up some trap for them ..? What exactly are they saying you would be liable for?
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Unless you have set out to injure them if they come onto your property you can't be liable to prosecution for their demise. Maybe they assumed you were implying you would set up some trap for them ..? What exactly are they saying you would be liable for?
It seems really bizzare they say he will be liable .... i cant understand it at all.
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just got back from CAB and they said that there is a fine line where prosecution stands
as the law states if anybody is injured on my property i am therefore liable for there accidents but in small print it only stands for people i have let onto the proerty to do work
i.e if i let the window man clean my windows and he was to fall off the ladder say due to the drive i am liable for his injureys
CAB says as for smack heads as they put it
if they go and kill there selves as long as i don't touch them in any way and just call police i will not be held responsable for it
what a weight off my sholders that was
i asked about setting up a water sprinkler as spoke about in this thread and there said as long as it don't cause any injureys i will be ok to use water
they told me there knew about one person setting a air riffle trigger onto some string to the gate and as someone opened the gate to get into his back garden they was likely to get shot in the knee cap
so there you go people if they kill themselves on your property don't touch them or anything just call the police and leave them to it
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
i feel like having a go at the copper for saying what he said
but i won't as much as i would love to
might just put a complaint in against him in writting and post it
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I know how you feel but sometimes its better to say nothing where they are involved ..... he's maybe just having a bad day ( which isn't an excuse i know ) :y
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
i feel like having a go at the copper for saying what he said
but i won't as much as i would love to
might just put a complaint in against him in writting and post it
I would suggest you do this. If he is giving out duff info that will cause to others as much stress as you have had to go through then he needs correcting. In writing, polite and factual oh and recorded too with a request for comeback :y
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
i feel like having a go at the copper for saying what he said
but i won't as much as i would love to
might just put a complaint in against him in writting and post it
I would suggest you do this. If he is giving out duff info that will cause to others as much stress as you have had to go through then he needs correcting. In writing, polite and factual oh and recorded too with a request for comeback :y
i could do without all the stress at the moment i'm only just getting over a stroke and i'm stressed about what the descion will be about the blockaged ive got at the back of my neck on if there going to operate or just tablets
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
i feel like having a go at the copper for saying what he said
but i won't as much as i would love to
might just put a complaint in against him in writting and post it
I would suggest you do this. If he is giving out duff info that will cause to others as much stress as you have had to go through then he needs correcting. In writing, polite and factual oh and recorded too with a request for comeback :y
i could do without all the stress at the moment i'm only just getting over a stroke and i'm stressed about what the descion will be about the blockaged ive got at the back of my neck on if there going to operate or just tablets
I know how you feel, I am not having a great day thanks to a few of the muppets under my command not carrying out tasks I gave them and then I get the snot-o-gram from someone else about it. I can twait for the end of the week, if this carries on I'll be back in hospital with ulcers :(
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its not good mate
think we need a break
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when you think it can only get better it kicks you in the teeth
just had letter off the council saying there putting the rent up
its gone from £74.52 a week up to £78.62 a week
plus council tax is going up as well
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I suppose a shotgun to mame the druggies is considered bad form in this PC age....
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I knew you would'nt be liable for them .... that was just nonsense :y
i feel like having a go at the copper for saying what he said
but i won't as much as i would love to
might just put a complaint in against him in writting and post it
Problem is the copper is probably quoting the letter of the law as it is taught to them.
Interpretation of that law by courts, judges, etc, would be according to the circumstances, and more flexible I guess...
You have every right to complain, I understand that, but I personally would ask myself is it worth the time and effort...
:) :) :y
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I suppose a shotgun to mame the druggies is considered bad form in this PC age....
sounds good to me ;D ;D
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I understand that, but I personally would ask myself is it worth the time and effort...
I have to agree with you ..... although the shotgun works for me too :y
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I suppose a shotgun to mame the druggies is considered bad form in this PC age....
sounds good to me ;D ;D
and me :y
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i'm ver tempted about the air rifle that CAB was telling me one person did
makes you so angry that people have to go onto other people property to inject them selves with crap for the fun of it
i can't understand why they do it
why can't they do it in there own homes
it aint as if there is any shelter down the side of my house its all open they try and hide down a corner between the wall and a bush
it on full view of the camera and the camera glows red at night for the i.r
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i'm ver tempted about the air rifle that CAB was telling me one person did
makes you so angry that people have to go onto other people property to inject them selves with crap for the fun of it
i can't understand why they do it
why can't they do it in there own homes
it aint as if there is any shelter down the side of my house its all open they try and hide down a corner between the wall and a bush
it on full view of the camera and the camera glows red at night for the i.r
thats guarranteed to get you into trouble. Stick with the water idea. I was thinking does the wall on that side have a gutter? If so drill a few holes in it and put a water feed up there on the PIR ;)
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i'm ver tempted about the air rifle that CAB was telling me one person did
makes you so angry that people have to go onto other people property to inject them selves with crap for the fun of it
i can't understand why they do it
why can't they do it in there own homes
it aint as if there is any shelter down the side of my house its all open they try and hide down a corner between the wall and a bush
it on full view of the camera and the camera glows red at night for the i.r
thats guarranteed to get you into trouble. Stick with the water idea. I was thinking does the wall on that side have a gutter? If so drill a few holes in it and put a water feed up there on the PIR ;)
nah no guttering on there its just a brick wall and a bush and a small wodden fence
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thats the corner where they were last night
and the other times before
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1) Spade and hole in garden rather than call Police
2) Put something gardeny they could fall over
3) Follow said smackhead and beat the shit out of him when not on your property. MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALIBI
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Nick... In light of your current health, leave it well alone! Put a sign up stating that the area is covered by Recorded CCTV and leave it at that... Unless you can fence in the said area?
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If one did o/d on your property , you are NOT responsible for the death ,its simply that as it occured on your property they have to investigate it as they would ALL cicumstances surrounding a death. The solution is easy, if it does happen, drag the f*cker outside and leave him on the pavement ;D. If it were me caught someone doing that on my property I know damn well what I'd do and sod the law. Most coppers arent going to side with the druggy scrotes anyway, tho in all seriousness , you do have to be careful with retribution from them and I take the view of doing the right thing / follow the law first, but if you get no joy....Remember a few years back when we had a lot of trouble with underage drinkers/ druggies / vandalism and slowly but surely police response time got worse and worse. Amazing how quickly they got here when we got one and told them that if they didnt respond sharpish we were going to beat the c*ap out of him and that it was their call though... :y
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Sorry mate, shouldve edited my last post, its just that this sort of thing makes my blood boil >:(. In reality, the most important thing is to keep you and yours safe and not to endanger yourselves. Keep pushing through the "right" channels and I'm sure that you'll get a result in the end.
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Sorry mate, shouldve edited my last post, its just that this sort of thing makes my blood boil >:(. In reality, the most important thing is to keep you and yours safe and not to endanger yourselves. Keep pushing through the "right" channels and I'm sure that you'll get a result in the end.
i'm looking at doing some of those cctv signs
might print some off and get them laminated
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Hi Nick,
If someone enters your property while you are unaware (Eg, asleep) and harms/kills themselves through substance misuse, it's not your problem.
Naturally the Police would need to investigate the death and you may well be questioned as part of that process - but that doesn't mean you would be liable for the guys death.
If you are reporting these sharps being dumped, but are not seeing any proactive police action to try and combat/reduce this, then you need to escalate this within your local Safer Community Team at West Mids Plod.
Your best bet would be to put a phone call in to Inspector Andrew Bullman, who can be contacted on 0845 113 5000 extension 7881 6229. *
He is in charge of your "neighbourhood area" (Walsall) and can allocate resources to deal with your problem. You can also ask him to confirm whether or not your issue is a neighbourhood priority, and ask what action is being taken to tackle it.
In addition, you could also have a friendly chat with him about the information given to you by the Constable. If it transpires he did give out bad info, the Insp. will be able to set him straight without dragging him through the brown stuff known as Professional Standards...
Good luck :y
*Disclaimer - names and contact numbers in public domain.
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
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thanks i'll give him a ring :y
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
Are you guys serious?
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
how about some ajax or what ever its called
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
Are you guys serious?
The authorities will do jack all constructive (they never do in these cases)......sometimes, alternative means required to solve such issues.
I would start with the water/PIR trick first but....hey, any port in a storm!
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
Are you guys serious?
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Tempting as it may be I think that:
1) Nick's got more common sense than that
2) He's not really in a fit state to be doing it either ::) ::) ::)
Anyways Nick... Don't be tempted to do anything illegal as it'll come back and bite you on the arse!
If, god forbid, they do OD on your property follow the correct route...
Check for vital signs
Call Ambulance and Police
Stay calm and touch as little as possible
If it happens there will be an investigation but you will be in the clear :y :y
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
how about some ajax or what ever its called
That sould do the trick ::)
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
Are you guys serious?
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Tempting as it may be I think that:
1) Nick's got more common sense than that
2) He's not really in a fit state to be doing it either ::) ::) ::)
Anyways Nick... Don't be tempted to do anything illegal as it'll come back and bite you on the arse!
If, god forbid, they do OD on your property follow the correct route...
Check for vital signs kick them in the head to see they say ouch
Call Ambulance and Police or call co-op funeral place
Stay calm and touch as little as possible hit them with a shovel just to be sure
If it happens there will be an investigation but you will be in the clear :y :y
how's that then :y
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
how about some ajax or what ever its called
That sould do the trick ::)
there probly that dumd that would use it as well
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
See if you can get some powdered Milkstone remover :y
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Wait until they have dosed up and then beat the crap out of them......they will be in no fit state to know where when and who did it!
might do that
does that include base ball bats :y
Or a spade!
Are you guys serious?
:-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X
Tempting as it may be I think that:
1) Nick's got more common sense than that
2) He's not really in a fit state to be doing it either ::) ::) ::)
Anyways Nick... Don't be tempted to do anything illegal as it'll come back and bite you on the arse!
If, god forbid, they do OD on your property follow the correct route...
Check for vital signs kick them in the head balls to see they say ouch
Call Ambulance and Police or call co-op funeral place
Stay calm and touch as little as possible hit them with a shovel just to be sure
If it happens there will be an investigation but you will be in the clear :y :y
how's that then :y
Just a slight amendment, then Perfect ;D ;D :y :y
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I would leave a big bag of white powder where the can find it, hopefully they will think its Christmas and use it. Just make sure that what ever you leave them is toxic ;)
See if you can get some powdered Milkstone remover :y
never herd of it but it sounds strong
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Have you heard of Jenolite?
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Have you heard of Jenolite?
yeah ive herd of that
don't see it anymore
industrial stuff i think it is
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Have you heard of Jenolite?
yeah ive herd of that
don't see it anymore
industrial stuff i think it is
It's rust converter, basically phosforic acid. Same as milkstone remover (and half the price of Jenolite!).
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Have you heard of Jenolite?
yeah ive herd of that
don't see it anymore
industrial stuff i think it is
It's rust converter, basically phosforic acid. Same as milkstone remover (and half the price of Jenolite!).
need something that they will be able to get away from my house before they drop dead and start to disolve on the pavement
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If the comments on this thread are anything like what was suggested to the Police Officer - it's no wonder he told you that you'd be liable for anything that happened ;D
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If the comments on this thread are anything like what was suggested to the Police Officer - it's no wonder he told you that you'd be liable for anything that happened ;D
nooooo
these are just tips on what to do
i don't have any thought of doing them :-?
not matter how tempting
well maybe might do one or two of them :-X
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If, god forbid, they do OD on your property follow the correct route...
Check for vital signs
Call Ambulance and Police
Stay calm and touch as little as possible
If it happens there will be an investigation but you will be in the clear :y :y
In all seriousness I wouldn't be touching them to check for vital signs if there is the slightest chance they have needles on them. Just call the cops.
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If, god forbid, they do OD on your property follow the correct route...
Check for vital signs
Call Ambulance and Police
Stay calm and touch as little as possible
If it happens there will be an investigation but you will be in the clear :y :y
In all seriousness I wouldn't be touching them to check for vital signs if there is the slightest chance they have needles on them. Just call the cops.
Forgot to add that ones own personal safety comes first ::) ::) ::)
I've always got latex gloves about so I'd just don a couple of pairs and check vitals... Purely because these idiots will have a family who don't deserve the upset of loosing a loved one... Just a few minutes could be the difference between life and death.
I suppose that's just me though... I tend to put others before me whenever possible :y :y :y
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the law is a total ass, ive had enough of it now, both my sons have been mugged and beaten and each time according to the police the cctv was not working. even though the samalians kept saying no comment when questioned they got off. the best thing you can do is get a few m8s and wait for them to go down the alley and make it clear to them its going to stop. the only way these people will listen is to make yourself heard. ive no time for the law in this country no more. if it affects me or my family i am the law. >:( >:( >:(
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if it affects me or my family i am the law. >:( >:( >:(
Society gets very scary when lots of people take this approach :-/
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I can see both sides of the argument here but I prefer to keep the correct side of the law... It just makes life easier ::) ::) ::)
That said, I can be a little intimidating when needed and it normally will sort most problems :y :y :y
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Just to add - I recently had an experience whereas a guy had a (unfounded) civil disagreement with me. I told him to take it up in a small claims court and not to contact me anymore. I put this in writing to him.
Said person continued to text me, telling me he would attend my address whether I liked it or not, that I'd "Be Sorry" and that he'd "see me soon".
Within an hour of his text, he had a first stage harassment warning served on him, meaning if he continued with the contact or indeed did turn up, he would be arrested and probably charged with harassment.
It worked, and knocked the situation on the head VERY quickly.
I agree there are failings and disappointments - no argument - but all in all, I think the law does work :y
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That ok if you've got the money to do it.
Personally, I like to sort my own problems out.
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That ok if you've got the money to do it.
Personally, I like to sort my own problems out.
What money? The law is free in this country ::) ::)
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when your son goes over the park to play football and comes back looking like this it breaks your heart, but to be told no charges will be brought as it could stir up racial problems it tends to pi$$ you off, but when it happens 3 times thats when you have to say enough is enough. if it was the other way round there would of been charges and thats a fact.
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thats not even half of the injuries, his legs his back and both arms were like this >:( >:(
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That ok if you've got the money to do it.
No money required!
Personally, I like to sort my own problems out.
Even if that means breaking the law to do so?
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
my x did go round his house to see his mum, she gave my x a load of abuse, rang her ex husband who came round, my x showed him the pics of what he did and the police report and he went mad, she said he was punching his son in the head walking up the rd. he never went near my son again. he cant play out over there so comes here all the time and has better m8s now who have parents who DO give a shite what there kids get up to.
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr (cant decide if I mean year or your) i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
If I had made a complaint to the Police about someone assulting me / family, and they told me they wouldn't do anything because of the suspected offenders race, I would be truly amazed. I'm not disputing what you say - I am just - stunned.
If an offender is identified for assult, and such injuries as the pics above are present - they should be charged and put before a court!
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
my x did go round his house to see his mum, she gave my x a load of abuse, rang her ex husband who came round, my x showed him the pics of what he did and the police report and he went mad, she said he was punching his son in the head walking up the rd. he never went near my son again. he cant play out over there so comes here all the time and has better m8s now who have parents who DO give a shite what there kids get up to.
Thing is, the father who dealt the beating is just as bad as his son. When they get this from the parents, it's no wonder they display violence/aggression in their own daily life... :-/
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr (cant decide if I mean year or your) i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
Richie, I can completely understand your feelings and having dealt with the police in that area I know that they are terrified of causing "Racial Unrest"
The recent stories you have been telling us are terrifying and a sure sign that your area is suffering from "over PCness" and deserves better!
Luckily there are very few problems in my area... In fact I don't even have to lock the car or house when I'm in :y :y :y
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr (cant decide if I mean year or your) i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
I'm sure the Daily Express would love to hear the full story on that one.
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr (cant decide if I mean year or your) (cant decide if I mean year or your) i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
I'm sure the Daily Express would love to hear the full story on that one.
i doubt they would even care to be honest.
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In my limited experience, I cannot see anyone "not being charged" purely on the basis it will cause racial hatred.
Did the plod specifically say they would not investigate your complaint because it would cause racial hatred?
honestly james, that was what we was told, yeading borders on southall and theres gangs on both sides of the fence. black and white. last yr (cant decide if I mean year or your) (cant decide if I mean year or your) (cant decide if I mean year or your) i know of a kid who got mugged and his dad found them, both got beaten half to death. no charges were brought. they just probably moved to another area to mug someone else
I'm sure the Daily Express would love to hear the full story on that one.
i doubt they would even care to be honest.
If what you say is true, they would.
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the councilare comingout to mineto check where the cameras are pointing they told me if it the cameras cover road's or other property's there going to make me take them down
like hell i am
i'll be out all day tomorrow so they cant come round
they don't give a s**t about the fact of what happened
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when your son goes over the park to play football and comes back looking like this it breaks your heart, but to be told no charges will be brought as it could stir up racial problems it tends to pi$$ you off, but when it happens 3 times thats when you have to say enough is enough. if it was the other way round there would of been charges and thats a fact.
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thats not even half of the injuries, his legs his back and both arms were like this >:( >:(
that is bad what happened to your kid
i hope he is ok mate
you can't even let your own kids out these days with out them being beaten up
>:(
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when your son goes over the park to play football and comes back looking like this it breaks your heart, but to be told no charges will be brought as it could stir up racial problems it tends to pi$$ you off, but when it happens 3 times thats when you have to say enough is enough. if it was the other way round there would of been charges and thats a fact.
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thats not even half of the injuries, his legs his back and both arms were like this >:( >:(
that is bad what happened to your kid
i hope he is ok mate
you can't even let your own kids out these days with out them being beaten up
>:(
its ok m8, it was just before he left junior school 2 yrs ago. ive just never deleted them from here. hes 12 now and got quite a punch on him so he wont stand for it now :)
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good
good to see he stands up to them
and i hope he gives them a good pasteing
ann said if she here's anyone down the side of the house we are going to go out armed tonight
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when your son goes over the park to play football and comes back looking like this it breaks your heart, but to be told no charges will be brought as it could stir up racial problems it tends to pi$$ you off, but when it happens 3 times thats when you have to say enough is enough. if it was the other way round there would of been charges and thats a fact.
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thats not even half of the injuries, his legs his back and both arms were like this >:( >:(
that is bad what happened to your kid
i hope he is ok mate
you can't even let your own kids out these days with out them being beaten up
>:(
its ok m8 (I'm too gay and stupid to spell mate), it was just before he left junior school 2 yrs ago. ive just never deleted them from here. hes 12 now and got quite a punch on him so he wont stand for it now :)
oops!! :-[ :-[
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That ok if you've got the money to do it.
No money required!
Personally, I like to sort my own problems out.
Even if that means breaking the law to do so?
Apologies, misunderstood your post.
I had a problem with someone harrassing me. To the point of hundreds of pounds worth of damage, car tyres slashed, death threats ( i recorded these on my phone recorder). Several officers told me not to worry and they would have 'word' with him, none of them did.
Eventually found an officer that could be bothered to do something and it went to magistrates court.
CPS decided it wasn't likely to end in a procecution as there was a lack of evidence!!! I had voice recordings of him making death threats FFS! >:(
Anyway, post that, he was still causing bother. My only option was to take out some sort of restraining order (via private solicitor) on the guy which would if I remember rightly cost several hundred pounds.
Absolute waste of time.
As far as breaking the 'law' goes, I wouldn't even have to think about it. The 'Law' is responsible for some absolulely attrocious things in this country, more often than not, supporting the offender.
I have a very strong moral compass, I live by that. It's quite clear to me the difference between right and wrong. I've broken a 30mph limit, I've swore in public, I've even driven without my seatbelt on!! The 'Law' would make me a criminal whilst it lets rapists paedophiles and murderers walk free. I simply can't live by something as ridiculous as that.
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don't know if its anything to do with last night but two people from across the road and one from round the back have just been arrested
only caught bits of what the copper said but it was on the lines of drugs and breaking an entry
i saw the car van pull up so i had to go round the chippy
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fraid so as its my property i'm liable for everything that goes on fault of mine or not
i know someone who got down when a burglar broke into this old womans house and cut his arm open on the broken window and she got done for it
Look at what happened to Barrymore......he may well not have done anything wrong at all but bcos it was on his property he was dragged through court for it...........
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fraid so as its my property i'm liable for everything that goes on fault of mine or not
i know someone who got down when a burglar broke into this old womans house and cut his arm open on the broken window and she got done for it
Look at what happened to Barrymore......he may well not have done anything wrong at all but bcos it was on his property he was dragged through court for it...........
thats why to copper told me i would get done
but the difference there is barrymore invited the chap into the house
where with me the druggies are entering at there own will
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we are going to go out armed tonight
And then post up complaining about the cops treading you badly, when you get nicked for posessing an offensive weapon?
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the councilare comingout to mineto check where the cameras are pointing they told me if it the cameras cover road's or other property's there going to make me take them down
like hell i am
i'll be out all day tomorrow so they cant come round
they don't give a s**t about the fact of what happened
Sorry, no criticism of you...
Unfortunately, if your cameras do point across other peoples property, you are in a 'grey' area of the law.
Having personal cctv is breaking another one of our multitude of laws relating to personal privacy, personal liberty, etc, etc...
Councils, being "local government offices" probably have the right to remove them...
:) :y
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We wanted to put cctv up to cover our drive as it runs down the side of the house out of view. we contacted our housing association and they told us as long as they were only aimed at our driveway they mustn't be pointing at anyone elses property as it is invasion of privacy. We put it up and they even came out to check where it was facing.
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As has been often said, the law's an ass!
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As has been often said, the law's an ass!
Totally agree. Many laws contradict each other, and very diffucult to make sense of...
:)
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my council has said the same i can have cameras up as long as they don't cover other property's which mine don't :y