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Title: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 15 March 2009, 20:24:42

Can you speak another Language.
If so, how many and which ones.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:29:50
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Can you speak another Language.
If so, how many and which ones.

Does 'Wiginese' count? If not .... then just the one .... English!
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Vamps on 15 March 2009, 20:31:27
I await Deb's and Lizzie Zoom's reply's..... :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 20:31:33
Fluently: English, Icelandic, Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

Passably: German.

Laughably: French and Welsh. ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Vamps on 15 March 2009, 20:33:06
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Fluently: English, Icelandic, Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

Passably: German.

Laughably: French and Welsh. ;D

I rest my case............... :y :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:33:35
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Fluently: English, Icelandic, Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

Passably: German.

Laughably: French and Welsh. ;D

Icelandic isn't your usual 2nd language  :-?   ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 March 2009, 20:34:19
yep..English :y

and some Romanian that only the sentences I memorize ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: webby23 on 15 March 2009, 20:35:09
French and Polish

Relatively fluent at both

Comes from paying attention at school (french) and marrying an East European (Polish)

Bit of Welsh too but not much really.

 :)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:36:25
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Omega man 2 on 15 March 2009, 20:36:50
Speak Irish fluently :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 20:37:17
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yep..English :y

and some Romanian that only the sentences I memorize ;D
:o No Turkish? :o
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 15 March 2009, 20:37:27
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Can you speak another Language.
If so, how many and which ones.

Does 'Wiginese' count? If not .... then just the one .... English!

erm, maybe not.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:37:33
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Speak Irish fluently :y

a pint of Guiness please?????  :y  :y  :y ::)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Omega man 2 on 15 March 2009, 20:39:22
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Speak Irish fluently :y

a pint of Guiness please?????  :y  :y  :y ::)

Ba bhra liom Guinness :y
If you shorten budweiser to bud in irish it means c*ck ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 15 March 2009, 20:39:58
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yep..English :y

and some Romanian that only the sentences I memorize ;D
:o No Turkish? :o

I nearly posted the same question, then realised the title of the thread was regards other languages, so I automaticaly assumed he is fluant in Turkish.

My other 2 languages are gobledogook and gibberish.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 20:42:40
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Fluently: English, Icelandic, Swedish, Danish and Norwegian.

Passably: German.

Laughably: French and Welsh. ;D

Icelandic isn't your usual 2nd language  :-?   ;)  ;)

It should might be ::).....but (for some reason) I seem to struggle to find many fluent Cymreag/Íslensk polyglots in Bala. ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:42:47
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My other 2 languages are gobledogook and gibberish.  ;D ;D ;D

and double Dutch ;D
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Post by: CaptainZok on 15 March 2009, 20:43:49
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Speak Irish fluently :y

a pint of Guiness please?????  :y  :y  :y ::)

Ba bhra liom Guinness :y
If you shorten budweiser to bud in irish it means c*ck ;D
Curious, in English it means sh1te. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 March 2009, 20:44:16
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 20:44:19
Sì i parlare fluentemente italiano e sono d'accordo sul fatto che l'omega forum è il migliore in Inghilterra e niente confronto a questo, ho un omega cdx e quindi sono più felice con lui :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Plomien on 15 March 2009, 20:44:28
I did French at school but can't really remember a lot of it and can speak some Polish, and the odd word in Welsh
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:44:33
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It should might be ::).....but (for some reason) I seem to struggle to find many fluent Cymreag/Íslensk polyglots in Bala. ;D

I was a bit slow there ... I think. Any relevance to being a blonde 5'14" ??  ::)  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:45:00
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Speak Irish fluently :y

a pint of Guiness please?????  :y  :y  :y ::)

Ba bhra liom Guinness :y
If you shorten budweiser to bud in irish it means c*ck ;D
Curious, in English it means sh1te. ;D ;D
LOL  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:46:29
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Sì i parlare fluentemente italiano e sono d'accordo sul fatto che l'omega forum è il migliore in Inghilterra e niente confronto a questo, ho un omega cdx e quindi sono più felice con lui :y

 :-?
the question was  .. can you speak another language?  ... not write it!  ;D
 ;D  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 March 2009, 20:46:50
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yep..English :y

and some Romanian that only the sentences I memorize ;D
:o No Turkish? :o

 ;D

it would be funny as I'm born here :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 20:46:55
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I did French at school but can't really remember a lot of it and can speak some Polish, and the odd word in Welsh

Many are! ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 20:47:34
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..... and spell different than I know :-?

You spell a lot better than most do here!  :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 20:48:57
      
e sì la mia seconda lingua è l'italiano e im orgoglioso, impaziente di arrivare al maggior numero possibile soddisfa anche questo anno. im approacable e in modo onesto e dire ciao venire o lasciare per sempre il problema è ha ha hehe
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Omega man 2 on 15 March 2009, 20:49:48
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e sì la mia seconda lingua è l'italiano e im orgoglioso, impaziente di arrivare al maggior numero possibile soddisfa anche questo anno. im approacable e in modo onesto e dire ciao venire o lasciare per sempre il problema è ha ha hehe

 :-? :-? ::) ::) :D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 20:49:52
ok i speak  italian
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 March 2009, 20:50:28
Did a bit of french at school, know how to be polite in spanish, italian, german and greek.....

Being an engineer, and languages not being logical in there make-up, I struggle with them!
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 15 March 2009, 20:50:40
Once I could speak Maltese, but that was many years ago and without practice it is now down to a handful of words! :'( :'(

Taught myself French once, but again due to a lack of usage it has faded and would now require much practice!! :o :o ;)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 15 March 2009, 20:51:06
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..... and spell different than I know :-?

You spell a lot better than most do here!  :y  :y  :y

Thanks :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Plomien on 15 March 2009, 20:51:06
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I did French at school but can't really remember a lot of it and can speak some Polish, and the odd word in Welsh

Many are! ;D
Lol so very true :D
and like webby23 I married a Polish Lady so have been learning.
My daughter though speaks English, Polish and Welsh Fluently and she is only 7  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 20:52:42
Chelsea sono attualmente il miglior team per libra libra nel fatto Premiership
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 20:52:49
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I did French at school but can't really remember a lot of it and can speak some Polish, and the odd word in Welsh

Many are! ;D
Lol so very true :D
and like webby23 I married a Polish Lady so have been learning.
My daughter though speaks English, Polish and Welsh Fluently and she is only 7  :y

Chwarae-teg! :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: HolyCount on 15 March 2009, 20:53:27
French when forced to.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Omega man 2 on 15 March 2009, 20:54:09
Ta omega agam agus is maith lion ag tiomaint go tapadh. Nuair, bhi mo omega bhris fuair me a lan rudai o an OOF :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: albitz on 15 March 2009, 20:56:36
Passable in English
Used to be fluent in Belfast ,but a bit out of practice
Fluent in Bullsh1t. :)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 20:57:00
k
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: djdaveyp85 on 15 March 2009, 20:59:40
Hablo una pequeña español.

Quite funny actually that to the spanish speaking world people who drive mitsubishi pajeros are driving down the street with "wank*r" written down the side of their cars!
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 21:01:15
Le persone che fingono di parlare la lingua italiana come cazzo spesso sono troppo spessi e stupido scrivere la parola giusta per cominciare. comunque se su qualsiasi membri desiderano qui a parlare in italiano a me dont l'uso dei servizi tradurre su google come spesso sbagliato dialetto e ti fa vedere un culo .....
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: TheBoy on 15 March 2009, 21:02:36
I can order beers in French, does that count?
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Gaffers on 15 March 2009, 21:05:01
French - fluent
German - shop level only
Arabic - notions of

...oh, and american (married to one)   ;)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Pitchfork on 15 March 2009, 21:05:17
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French and Polish

Relatively fluent at both

Comes from paying attention at school (french) and marrying an East European (Polish)

Bit of Welsh too but not much really.

 :)
French Polish - you could take a shine to that! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 21:06:30
Ordine solo in inglese   = order in english
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Post by: stuart30 on 15 March 2009, 21:06:42
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 15 March 2009, 21:10:51
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.

What about you then Stuart, have you picked any of them up.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Andy B on 15 March 2009, 21:10:51
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..... and american (married to one)   ;)

Completely different from English.
America & England (Britain if you prefer  ::)) divided by a common language! :y  :y  :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: TheBoy on 15 March 2009, 21:11:31
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 21:11:41
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.

ok ho capito, ma non si conosce il crack?
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Post by: stuart30 on 15 March 2009, 21:16:46
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.

What about you then Stuart, have you picked any of them up.

A bit of Tagalog & visayan.....enough too keep her happy.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: CaptainZok on 15 March 2009, 21:19:43
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Passable in English
Used to be fluent in Belfast ,but a bit out of practice
Fluent in Bullsh1t. :)
That's English but you say f**k every third word isn't it?
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 15 March 2009, 21:23:05
being a london boy all me life i have to agree son !!!
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Post by: Debs. on 15 March 2009, 21:23:21
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That's English but you say f**k every third word isn't it?
......and "so it is" every fourth! ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 15 March 2009, 22:06:14
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?

Your native tongue I thought......Mr 'in hiding'  ;D ;D :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 15 March 2009, 22:13:24
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?

Your native tongue I thought......Mr 'in hiding'  ;D ;D :y
eh? What have I done (or more likely not done)  :-/

me no understandie...
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 March 2009, 09:38:01
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.

(late comment as net was not reachable last night)

Trouble is courses and schools teach English without slang and accents..So you feel you came from Mars when you hear them ;D
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Post by: Gaffers on 16 March 2009, 10:47:13
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yep..English :y

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D

My limit in Turkish was 'thank you very much' ....although I can say it ... I can't spell it! ::)  :y  :y

Spend many years for English ..I can talk much better in technical subjects due to schools.. ;D

The first time , I arrived in London it was a big shock..Talking was not problem..Understanding was the headache, as people  talk like a machine gun and spell different than I know :-?

My wife comes from the Philippines and she couldn't understand why English people couldn't speak English correctly....took a while for the penny too drop but she meant that most english people (certainly around my way) speak so much slang she couldn't understand them....add a strong accent and she had no chance.

Shes pretty good at picking up languages...speaks Tagalog & visayan & English fluently...Spanish and mandarin when needed.

(late comment as net was not reachable last night)

Trouble is courses and schools teach English without slang and accents..So you feel you came from Mars when you hear them ;D

I had the same with french, soon picked it up though.  I can verlan with the best of them ;)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Varche on 16 March 2009, 10:49:35
Broad Yorkshire. Then schoolboy French and German. Spanish of late through necessity. Oh if only I had been able to learn Spanish at school. Worse is I live in a rural area where they speak broad Andalucian which bears little passing resemblance to real spanish. e.g. they don't pronounce any S's. The best is in the bar when they order a whiskey they say "wicky". Always makes me smile.

If your kids have a chance to learn languages then get them signed up for Chinese,Spanish and Indian in that order.

el varche
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 March 2009, 10:50:39
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?

Your native tongue I thought......Mr 'in hiding'  ;D ;D :y
eh? What have I done (or more likely not done)  :-/

me no understandie...

Yeh olde stealth mode enabled!
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: m1ct on 16 March 2009, 10:57:48
Well, I learnt American English in primary school,
then German and BE up till A levels,
a little bit of Spanish (from the soaps watched with my nan  ::)
and the `real` English once i moved here in `05
It doesn`t look like in my old course books though  :-?
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Omega man 2 on 16 March 2009, 10:59:28
Dublinese aswell :y

Gurrup outta dat ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: bob.dent on 16 March 2009, 11:03:57
Used to speak reasonably fluent German when I was DJing on German passenger ships for 2 years in the mid 70's. 8-) Forgotten a lot now but could still get by.
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Loch View on 16 March 2009, 11:35:47
Dutch, Belgian, German, french, and a little english ;)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: mantagte on 16 March 2009, 17:07:30
swmbo was reading this over my shoulder and reckons all men can speak at least one other language
whats that i said

bullsh@t she replied

no comment >:(
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 16 March 2009, 17:39:21
Yep..............pretty fluent in French and Spanish......can get by in Italian. :y :y
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2009, 18:27:54
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?

Your native tongue I thought......Mr 'in hiding'  ;D ;D :y
eh? What have I done (or more likely not done)  :-/

me no understandie...

Yeh olde stealth mode enabled!
Is it?

Opps  :-[
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Post by: TheBoy on 16 March 2009, 18:29:15
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I can order beers in French, does that count?
I can also speak Geek as I work with 'puters.

And apparently, last night, I was fluent in 'dangle berries' - does that count?

Your native tongue I thought......Mr 'in hiding'  ;D ;D :y
eh? What have I done (or more likely not done)  :-/

me no understandie...

Yeh olde stealth mode enabled!
Is it?

Opps  :-[
Off now, forgot I'd put it on, guessing it had been on a good few days ;D
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: jereboam on 16 March 2009, 19:24:50
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Dutch, Belgian, German, french, and a little english ;)

Belgian = vlaams = nederlands = Dutch, more or less.   :)

Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Loch View on 16 March 2009, 19:26:53
I was wondering how long it took for someone to notice ;D

Well done :y
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Post by: jereboam on 16 March 2009, 19:40:58
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I was wondering how long it took for someone to notice ;D

Well done :y

...and you'll never improve your English living north of the border.

Not that I believe you - all the Dutch and Flemish-speaking Belgians speak excellent English from the age of 8 onwards.  I suspect this partly to do with a very good language education system, but mainly to do with the fact that home-grown Dutch and Belgian tv is absolutely dire, so the kids watch English and American programs.  French-speaking Belgians speak French (sort of).
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Post by: Loch View on 16 March 2009, 19:50:49
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I was wondering how long it took for someone to notice ;D

Well done :y

...and you'll never improve your English living north of the border.

Not that I believe you - all the Dutch and Flemish-speaking Belgians speak excellent English from the age of 8 onwards.  I suspect this partly to do with a very good language education system, but mainly to do with the fact that home-grown Dutch and Belgian tv is absolutely dire, so the kids watch English and American programs.  French-speaking Belgians speak French (sort of).

yes, the language education system in Holland is excellent. The reason for this is that holland has been an exporting country for 100's of years and to succeed in export one has to know their languages :y

Of course we also have dutch programs on the telly, but you are right in saying the majority is english/american. If you look at the top 40 in Holland you will be lucky to find 3 or 4 dutch songs ;D

North of the border is nice though. I've lived in Chesterfield for about a year...totally crap there :D
At least now (after almost 3 years) I still have the feeling I'm on vacation :y
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Turk on 16 March 2009, 19:58:37
Fluent Welsh and English.

My French is okay, tho' not so hot on understanding when they get all het up and excitable, but that also applies to some of my British customers.   ::)
Title: Re: Can you speak another Language.
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 March 2009, 20:17:20
Little bit of English, Welsh and French but brilliant at Bull 5hit ::)
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Post by: STMO123 on 16 March 2009, 20:49:31
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e sì la mia seconda lingua è l'italiano e im orgoglioso, impaziente di arrivare al maggior numero possibile soddisfa anche questo anno. im approacable e in modo onesto e dire ciao venire o lasciare per sempre il problema è ha ha hehe

and yes my second language is l' proud, impaziente Italian and im to arrive to the greater possible number satisfy also this year. im approacable and in honest way and to say hello to come or to leave in order always the problem he has has hehe  ::)