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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: tuckshop on 20 March 2009, 21:54:24
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please consider and sign this petition
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noNSLreduction/
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please consider and sign this petition
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noNSLreduction/
lower the nsl to 50? dont be silly, sometimes on a fast road slower speeds can be more dangerous than high speed
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duly signed. :y
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Signed! :y :y
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please consider and sign this petition
http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/noNSLreduction/
lower the nsl to 50? dont be silly, sometimes on a fast road slower speeds can be more dangerous than high speed
exactly like the women driver did in the morning ..suddenly slowed in the middle of 4 lanes to turn left without any light and was nearly thrashed by a truck..
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Signed :) :)
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Signed!
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not signed. the nsl should be reduced to 50mph.will make our roads safer
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Ages ago
Write to your mp and if they are the current shower remind them who votes for them
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Have to say that I do not agree with kris9128 on this.
Here on the South coast an alarming number of people bumble along at 40mph or less on perfectly good straight A roads, causing considerable frustration in the following long queues resulting in potentially dangerous overtaking in sheer desperation!
If the limit is lowered these people will dive even slower and the accident rate will rise as tempers become even more frayed!
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Have to say that I do not agree with kris9128 on this.
Here on the South coast an alarming number of people bumble along at 40mph or less on perfectly good straight A roads, causing considerable frustration in the following long queues resulting in potentially dangerous overtaking in sheer desperation!
If the limit is lowered these people will dive even slower and the accident rate will rise as tempers become even more frayed!
without going into details mate and not wanting to cause an argument and fall out with people. when you loose a few members of your very close family due to somebody who was doing what he thought was a safe speed on a straight road in good weather then you will understand. not having a go and if you wish to sign the petition then that is your choice. as is my choice not to sign it.
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i want to keep doing 60mph in my car, but when i,m only allowed to do 40 in my lorry i,m sure 50max will be less annnoyed following a 40 truck than being allowed upto 60
i'd like to vote for the trucks to be upgraded to 50 to match the new 50 due to be allowed for cars then both cars and trucks will be happier on single carraigeway roads.
but stillwant to cruise at higher speeds in my car
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Fair comment kris9128, very sorry to hear about that.
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We have had this before, ::) though it was a while ago now, it was for fuel shortages then though iirc. Surprised they are doing this on safety, thought they would have done it under 'green' issues / concerns.
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speed by itself doesnt kill,bad driving kills.A bad driver can kill easier at 50 than a good driver at 60,so therefore surely educating and training people to be better drivers would have more of an effect on real road safety (rather than grabbing headlines or filling the treasury coffers)than simply lowering the speed limit.
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More details by following this link below, as usual many of these petitions don't give you the full details of what your petitioning against, in this case the proposal is to reduce "the speed limits on most rural single-carriageway roads", and enforing it with average speed cameras, probably quite sensible for some rural roads, so its a reduction is the NSL for "most rural single-carriageway roads", the petition doesn't make this point clear, suggesting it's a overall reduction in the NSL to 50MPH, and this is not the case. ::)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/4958058/Lowering-of-speed-limits-could-be-policed-by-average-speed-cameras.html
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speed by itself doesnt kill,bad driving kills.A bad driver can kill easier at 50 than a good driver at 60,so therefore surely educating and training people to be better drivers would have more of an effect on real road safety (rather than grabbing headlines or filling the treasury coffers)than simply lowering the speed limit.
100% Correct, it not the Speed limit that kills.
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Albitz - how right you are.
I'm an Advanced/Defensive driver trainer. Do lot's of courses for county councils re speed awareness.
Normally have 15 to 20 clients at a time for a theory presentation. ABOUT HALF know what the NSL.
It ranges for single carriageway NSL 30 to 70
and for dual carriageway 40 to 70.
sometimes we get 45, 55 and 65.
Also very many not aware of different NSL applicable for vans over 2 ton laden weight, and HGV's (now LGV's) etc.
Then what is a dual carriageway - it's enlightening :o
Then get told - 'but it's not my responsibilty to know etc'
Cost to find out £2.50 - that's the Highway Code.
Yep, we share the road with :-[ doing formation driving with strangers
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Signed! :y
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signed :y, they are just doing this so battery cars will look like a viable purchase :D
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TBH if you did 50 on most of the rural single carriageway roads around here you'd kill yourself anyway !!! The idiots who drive way faster than conditions indicate won't be conforming to any imposed NSL anyway !
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TBH if you did 50 on most of the rural single carriageway roads around here you'd kill yourself anyway !!! The idiots who drive way faster than conditions indicate won't be conforming to any imposed NSL anyway !
I have to agree with you, many times when I was driving from London to Hastings, I was overtaken by speeding cars only to pass them later after they had found the ditch at side of road...LOL
;D ;D
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TBH if you did 50 on most of the rural single carriageway roads around here you'd kill yourself anyway !!! The idiots who drive way faster than conditions indicate won't be conforming to any imposed NSL anyway !
I have to agree with you, many times when I was driving from London to Hastings, I was overtaken by speeding cars only to pass them later after they had found the ditch at side of road...LOL
;D ;D
Ah yes, the rural A21! Never really changed since the early days of motoring South of Tunbridge Wells. :o :o :o A potentially deadly road for the unwary or stupid! ::) ::) ;)
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TBH if you did 50 on most of the rural single carriageway roads around here you'd kill yourself anyway !!! The idiots who drive way faster than conditions indicate won't be conforming to any imposed NSL anyway !
I have to agree with you, many times when I was driving from London to Hastings, I was overtaken by speeding cars only to pass them later after they had found the ditch at side of road...LOL
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Ah yes, the rural A21! Never really changed since the early days of motoring South of Tunbridge Wells. :o :o :o A potentially deadly road for the unwary or stupid! ::) ::) ;)
Yes deadly, these are the types of road they are really concerned about in my opinion...
This is a very winding road, very dark at night, and drivers overestimate their owns driving skills, and underestimate the capabilities of their cars...
They also forget that locals walk along these roads too...
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As I recall the A24 above Findon is a bit of a nightmare too. Found many a car in the central reservation there ( actually it's more a central woodland !!!!! )
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As I recall the A24 above Findon is a bit of a nightmare too. Found many a car in the central reservation there ( actually it's more a central woodland !!!!! )
Another bad stretch is the A13 into London, just before you get to the old 'East India docks'...
Now this is a main carriageway, with flyovers...often late at night on empty roads you will see cars upside down, mangled, and facing the 'wrong way' in the lanes...
This is the result of excess speed going up and over the flyovers...
Literally "up" into the air... :exclamation
:o :o
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Weve all had this discussion before. Speed, in itself, does not kill. Bad driving does. If you were to do a risk assesment on it you would have to consider 3 aspects 1)ability of driver concerned 2)conditions of road itself and 3)enviromental conditions at time. Obviously speed factors quite heavily in this and its further complicated by legislation having to cover the lowest common denominator. Personally, I think that some stretches of road should have their NSL reduced, whilst others could be increased.
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It's not the speed that kills you, it's the stopping suddenly that does!
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The deed is done :y
You've killed Gordon Brown?? :o :o :o :o
Sorry I'll get my coat, though I was in real hope for a minute!! :D :D ;)
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The deed is done :y
You've killed Gordon Brown?? :o :o :o :o
Sorry I'll get my coat, though I was in real hope for a minute!! :D :D ;)
I wish :'( :'( :'(
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Not signed.
I do feel that a lower speed does make the journey more plesant. The other benefits are it is kinder to the car and any pedestrians around and more fuel efficent. Driving at a faster speed does not always mean you get to your destination any faster. I enjoy driving and running a larger car instead of a small car and part of that driving experience is the quiet and comfortable, not rushed ride that going slightly slower you can enjoy ;)
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I do feel that a lower speed does make the journey more plesant. The other benefits are it is kinder to the car and any pedestrians around and more fuel efficent. Driving at a faster speed does not always mean you get to your destination any faster. I enjoy driving and running a larger car instead of a small car and part of that driving experience is the quiet and comfortable, not rushed ride that going slightly slower you can enjoy ;)
I tend not to run around & i tootle along at 50/55, but i do like the thought that if i needed to i could go just that little faster.
What's next, the 70 limit on dual carrage ways & M roads :-/ :-/ :-/
Do gooders that know nothing at it again >:( >:( >:(