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Title: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 00:32:54
got caught speeding tonight by the boys in blue,on the M11 in rather a hurry on the bike,next thing a volvo with all the lights flashing and the passenger pointing at the hard shoulder.My last speeding offence was in 1978,my radar must be worn out. :'( :'( :'(
The copper was a decent sort,said I was going far too fast to get a warning but he booked me for the slowest speed they clocked me at so I get fine/points,if he had used the highest speed they recorded it would have been a long ban at least. ::) :( :'(
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 02 April 2009, 00:40:30
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got caught speeding tonight by the boys in blue,on the M11 in rather a hurry on the bike,next thing a volvo with all the lights flashing and the passenger pointing at the hard shoulder.My last speeding offence was in 1978,my radar must be worn out. :'( :'( :'(
The copper was a decent sort,said I was going far too fast to get a warning but he booked me for the slowest speed they clocked me at so I get fine/points,if he had used the highest speed they recorded it would have been a long ban at least. ::) :( :'(

Bad luck matey, but good news to a degree.  Sounds like you have got away with it lightly this time. ::) :-X
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 00:45:51
your absolutely right sktuntie,the copper was also a biker,he said he observed my riding and that I was riding well in all respects,just far too fast (between 90-125).I have spent almost 30 years working within spitting distance of home,but now have a 36 mile round trip so no licence = no job,so the time has come to keep the speed a bit more sensible.
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: feeutfo on 02 April 2009, 01:13:33
what to say without sounding patronising, er
Been there done that,
Been very lucky with the coppers that i didnt see  
Been very lucky with the cars that didnt see me
Been very lucky NOTto be on the usual Sunday ride out where a mate hit an on coming bike, killed him and lost his own arm with 18 months in jail for the trouble. Its just not the place anymore.

I love bikes cant live without them, but they keep getting faster and traffic keep getting slower, so track days only for me, before i kill myself/someone else. Oh, and the small matter of keeping a license to earn a living.

Take the car mate, put some race plastics on the bike, lower the gearing and get a tow bar and trailer for track days.
That should slow you down on the road. ;D

Nah, still sounds patronising.
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Sofiaa on 02 April 2009, 02:04:36
Yeah right you got to slow down.... too much of a speed like a craze but it is dangerous too. So watch out for it.
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: nick v6 on 02 April 2009, 08:04:47
my points come off my liecence next year
ive been carefull ever since i decided to over take a copper on the m5 at 92mph
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 17:40:11
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what to say without sounding patronising, er
Been there done that,
Been very lucky with the coppers that i didnt see  
Been very lucky with the cars that didnt see me
Been very lucky NOTto be on the usual Sunday ride out where a mate hit an on coming bike, killed him and lost his own arm with 18 months in jail for the trouble. Its just not the place anymore.

I love bikes cant live without them, but they keep getting faster and traffic keep getting slower, so track days only for me, before i kill myself/someone else. Oh, and the small matter of keeping a license to earn a living.

Take the car mate, put some race plastics on the bike, lower the gearing and get a tow bar and trailer for track days.
That should slow you down on the road. ;D

Nah, still sounds patronising.
Doesnt sound patronising at all Chris,sounds like common sense tbh,only fly in the ointment is the cost of trackdays.They charge a lot of money to thrash round Brands for a day. :(
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Richie London on 02 April 2009, 17:46:04
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my points come off my liecence next year
ive been carefull ever since i decided to over take a copper on the m5 at 92mph


oops!!!  
i wrote my senny off doing 125 on the m40 over 15 yrs ago when i went into the side of a lorry, 1am pi$$ing down with rain too. i learnt my lesson then. before it became  too late to learn  :-[
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 April 2009, 17:57:51
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got caught speeding tonight by the boys in blue,on the M11 in rather a hurry on the bike,next thing a volvo with all the lights flashing and the passenger pointing at the hard shoulder.My last speeding offence was in 1978,my radar must be worn out. :'( :'( :'(
The copper was a decent sort,said I was going far too fast to get a warning but he booked me for the slowest speed they clocked me at so I get fine/points,if he had used the highest speed they recorded it would have been a long ban at least. ::) :( :'(


I'am 49 years of age ...............and really have been a habitual speeder for as long as I care to remember........although usually I consider myself to be a safe and competent driver /rider on both cars and bikes.............so you'll get no lectures from me Albitz.

The very young 16-19 year olds............and the very old ......coffin dodgers are the biggest danger in my opinion. :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 18:05:25
Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: feeutfo on 02 April 2009, 18:20:06
Brands is over priced imho and the short circuit is very short. Snerterton is cheaper, dont forget Lyden and Goodwood although not seen them on the calender for a while, they are ok on a 600, bit mickey on anything bigger so i havent looked into those.

 Also you wont need tax and insurance on the bike, so 2 or 3 track days there possibly?
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 18:24:14
Actually,Snetterton is about the same distance from me as Brands,I do love the long circuit at Brands though,I think it is the best circuit in the U.K. by far,I was hoping to do a tyrack day there this summer anyway,but it will depend on funds etc; :y
If I was going to do track days as a serious hobby I think I would have a litre bike though.
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 April 2009, 18:29:22
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Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D

Don't slow down TOO much Albitz....................it's the thin end of the wedge..........first you slow down..................then you don't notice pretty girls any more............then you buy a cardigan with wooden buttons................then you get really excited about going to the garden centre on a Sunday morning .............instead of having a good shag.......and then...................... :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: TheBoy on 02 April 2009, 18:37:12
I couldn't possibly criticise, esp as I've noticed my speed increasing....

On the bike, however, since my little off a few years back, I've calmed down, and quite steady really.  I've probably lost my mojo  :-[
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: stuart30 on 02 April 2009, 18:47:25
After collecting the Elite last night i was very very good with speed...had cruise set too 65mph as journey was 185 miles ish and computer said 140 ish.....soooo looked like i was walking the last 40 odd miles.

But with the steady cruise the fuel comp kept rising and rising...until it hit 240 miles left in tank at which point knowing i could get home sports button engage and foot tried too go through floor..... ;D

Bugger me just started too get up too a decent (very naughty but nice) speed i notice Mr policeman sitting on hard shoulder (probably cracking one off over Doughnut monthly) so made a rapid but safe slow down and just pootled home. ;D

Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: belldarr on 02 April 2009, 18:50:43
Bad luck mate - momentary lapse of concentration etc etc - at least you got to reason with a real copper and not the man in a van camera that caught me a few days ago - no discussion just the NIP  through the door :(

Darren
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: stuart30 on 02 April 2009, 18:51:03
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Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D

I believe there isnt an automatic ban...its down too the judges too make a decision,dont forget if loosing your license causes serve hardship they can go down different routes.

Drink driving maybe well be different but the old ""100mph instant ban"" simply isnt true.

Its good your got a human copper.... :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 19:07:48
Automatic ban probably isnt the correct phrase,but he informed me in no uncertain terms that he had evidence to take me to court for doing 125mph,and as such the chances of keeping my licence would be very remote to say the least,you would probably need a hell of a good excuse and a very good solicitor I would imagine,but he was human and fair,and an experienced bloke by the sound of him,much better at policing the roads than any number of cameras. :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: stuart30 on 02 April 2009, 19:10:55
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Automatic ban probably isnt the correct phrase,but he informed me in no uncertain terms that he had evidence to take me to court for doing 125mph,and as such the chances of keeping my licence would be very remote to say the least,you would probably need a hell of a good excuse and a very good solicitor I would imagine,but he was human and fair,and an experienced bloke by the sound of him,much better at policing the roads than any number of cameras. :y

Oh well ummmm sod what i just said didnt realise it was that naughty..  ;D ;D ;D

Yeah id say if your a more mature rider he probbaly realised you know your stuff unlike some of the ""hope and pray"" younger riders.

Sounds like a result anyway... :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: TheBoy on 02 April 2009, 19:27:20
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Automatic ban probably isnt the correct phrase,but he informed me in no uncertain terms that he had evidence to take me to court for doing 125mph,and as such the chances of keeping my licence would be very remote to say the least,you would probably need a hell of a good excuse and a very good solicitor I would imagine,but he was human and fair,and an experienced bloke by the sound of him,much better at policing the roads than any number of cameras. :y
One of my brothers had to go to court for similar.  Fortunately a well known F1 Team Principle sent in a nice letter as a character reference, and he 'got off'  (as in he got a massive fine and a shitload of points, but kept licence)
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Field Marshal Dr. Opti on 02 April 2009, 19:37:41
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Automatic ban probably isnt the correct phrase,but he informed me in no uncertain terms that he had evidence to take me to court for doing 125mph,and as such the chances of keeping my licence would be very remote to say the least,you would probably need a hell of a good excuse and a very good solicitor I would imagine,but he was human and fair,and an experienced bloke by the sound of him,much better at policing the roads than any number of cameras. :y


Nothing wrong with that  :y :y :y.........so long as you were riding within your limits....and it seems as though you were.
Too much time spent chasing speeders in my opinion.............I had a friend who had his house broken into recently............the police did not want to come out at first..............as it was not considered a priority. :-/ :-/
It'a a crazy world. :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 20:06:24
quite agree,but if you break the rules and get caught,you got to take it on the chin,and considering the copper told me he and his volvo turbo had struggled to catch me (it took 4.2 miles apparently) I think me and my chin got off lightly. ;)
He did say they are having a purge on speeding on the m11 at the moment,so if anyone is an m11 user,be careful. :y
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 02 April 2009, 20:59:26
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Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D

The only laugh I am having here Albs is I cant believe that Honda 90 you have does between 90-125 ;D ;D ;D
Been out for a little 80 mile ride myself and enjoyed every second so no piss taking from me there mate ;)
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: vauxmad on 02 April 2009, 21:09:42
just shows some coppers are human, i have dealt with a few decent one in my time and i doth my cap to them for staying decent with the crap they put up with
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: feeutfo on 02 April 2009, 21:26:02
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just shows some coppers are human, i have dealt with a few decent one in my time and i doth my cap to them for staying decent with the crap they put up with
Always worth being respectfull. Met a couple along the lines that Albitz had.  The attitude of those involved can mean the difference between 18month ban and points and a fine.

Wpc's however seem completely devoid of any discretion what so ever in my experience. Strange.
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Andy B on 02 April 2009, 21:32:24
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..... told me he and his volvo turbo had struggled to catch me (it took 4.2 miles apparently)  .....

It doesn't take very long to travel 4.2 miles at a speed of just over 2 miles a minute.  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Welung666 on 02 April 2009, 21:54:42
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just shows some coppers are human, i have dealt with a few decent one in my time and i doth my cap to them for staying decent with the crap they put up with
Always worth being respectfull. Met a couple along the lines that Albitz had.  The attitude of those involved can mean the difference between 18month ban and points and a fine.

Wpc's however seem completely devoid of any discretion what so ever in my experience. Strange.

and PCSO's appear to have empty skulls ;D ;D (they do round here anyway)
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 21:59:27
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Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D

The only laugh I am having here Albs is I cant believe that Honda 90 you have does between 90-125 ;D ;D ;D
Been out for a little 80 mile ride myself and enjoyed every second so no piss taking from me there mate ;)
I knew you would say that. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 02 April 2009, 22:49:20
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Same age as me optomist,I think my lack of youth had an influence on the copper tbh,he asked me a few questions about how long I had been riding etc,how far from home my workplace was,and then said "this country is shit enough to live in these days without having your livliehood taken away,so on this occasion I will go with the lowest recorded speed so you dont go to court and get an automatic ban."
He was pretty ugly but I was tempted to give him a kiss. :D ;)
I reckon Loo knee is going to have a right laugh when he reads this thread. ::) ;D

The only laugh I am having here Albs is I cant believe that Honda 90 you have does between 90-125 ;D ;D ;D
Been out for a little 80 mile ride myself and enjoyed every second so no piss taking from me there mate ;)
I knew you would say that. ;D ;D

Did I say something wrong Ode Lad? ;D
Title: Re: Got to slow down !
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 23:48:32
As PC plod of chigwell pointed out last night,I may be an old lad but I still got the need for speed ;) ;D.......a bit too much of it actually. :-[ ::)