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Title: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:35:54
Today i had man in a very 'norman type' Jacket challenge me abut the envionmental justification of my car. He had an x reg Kia something people carrier (yuk yuk ). He told me how much I was killing the environment whereas his thing was not (diesel, tacky, yukky thing). What do you think ?????? Personally I think he can keep his yuk Kia thing and I will keep enjoying my loved Omega.  ;) ;)

P.S. He also wore massive specticles ( I wear glasses so no probs there) that only a biker should wear, but when I asked him about his motorbike I discovered he hates these too. We ended with comments from me not publishable on here ( polite publication of what I said is 'go away') :)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: tunnie on 02 April 2009, 22:37:11
give it 5 years, i bet your Omega will still be going strong, and the Kia will be in the scrappy!
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 April 2009, 22:37:43
Was your car shipped half way around the world?

Does your car create PM10s?
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:38:36
Not sure what a PM10 is ???
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Omega man 2 on 02 April 2009, 22:38:46
My omega runs on natural, organic fuel :y :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: tunnie on 02 April 2009, 22:39:03
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Was your car shipped half way around the world?

Does your car create PM10s?

Very good point, Omegas are built in Germany not Korea!
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:40:29
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give it 5 years, i bet your Omega will still be going strong, and the Kia will be in the scrappy!

Not good for the environment.  :y :y

And I hope it will be going strong, I chose this one carefully ( my fourth omega)  :y :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:42:58
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Was your car shipped half way around the world?

Does your car create PM10s?

Very good point, Omegas are built in Germany not Korea!

Who wants a Korean car anyway thought they made video players  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 02 April 2009, 22:43:01
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Not sure what a PM10 is ???


Particulates from Diesel
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:44:17
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Not sure what a PM10 is ???


Particulates from Diesel

Don't they give you cancer  :)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: dbug on 02 April 2009, 22:47:19
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Today i had man in a very 'norman type' Jacket challenge me abut the envionmental justification of my car. He had an x reg Kia something people carrier (yuk yuk ). He told me how much I was killing the environment whereas his thing was not (diesel, tacky, yukky thing). What do you think ?????? Personally I think he can keep his yuk Kia thing and I will keep enjoying my loved Omega.  ;) ;)

P.S. He also wore massive specticles ( I wear glasses so no probs there) that only a biker should wear, but when I asked him about his motorbike I discovered he hates these too. We ended with comments from me not publishable on here ( polite publication of what I said is 'go away') :)

suspect he's an rsol
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: The Barge Captain on 02 April 2009, 22:49:39
We considered buying a Kia people carrier before we got the galaxy, but the thought of running a 3 litre merc diesel (taken from the sprinter van)and the awful servicing costs plus loads of road noise put me off.
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Gaffers on 02 April 2009, 22:51:28
Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.

Plus some of the new cars are producing incredible results.  Look at the new 3l diesel lump from Jaguar/Land Rover.  300hp, 40+ mpg, quiet and bmw/mercedes are panickingly trying to replicate this result!



Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Omega man 2 on 02 April 2009, 22:53:17
Last year the minister the minister for the enviroment came to our school to give some gay talk about the enviroment.

And as I was leaving the car park he was getting into his prius. Well I just had to smoke the tyres didn't I.  ;D ;D ;D

My mate double dared me anyway .
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 22:54:16
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.


Omega owners are helpling the evironment then  :y :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 22:59:44
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.


Omega owners are helpling the evironment then  :y :y

So does that mean Cortina owners are doing more..... :-/ :-/ :D :D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Gaffers on 02 April 2009, 23:07:01
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.


Omega owners are helpling the evironment then  :y :y

So does that mean Cortina owners are nutters?..... :-/ :-/ :D :D


Yup!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:09:46
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.


Omega owners are helpling the evironment then  :y :y

So does that mean Cortina owners are nutters?..... :-/ :-/ :D :D


Yup!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You messed with my post.... :P :P ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Gaffers on 02 April 2009, 23:11:51
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.


Omega owners are helpling the evironment then  :y :y

So does that mean Cortina owners are nutters?..... :-/ :-/ :D :D


Yup!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You messed with my post.... :P :P ;D ;D ;D

moi!?  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:13:11
let's all buy a 1970 lada  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:18:14
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let's all buy a 1970 lada  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

They are terrible on petrol though
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Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:19:03
What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:23:17
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:25:17
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:36:19
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater Citroen C4 diesel...... :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: mantagte on 02 April 2009, 23:38:36
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:39:45
uuumm will think about it  :o :o :o We already have an efficent fiesta ( but the wife has seriously pinked it so a bit embarrasing to drive  :( :()

I would really like a seven seater push bike  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:40:27
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Chris_H on 02 April 2009, 23:43:47
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let's all buy a 1970 lada  :D :D :D ;D ;D ;D

No! No! The Wartburg was the 'real' smoker.
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:44:05
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:45:50
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:48:59
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 23:50:21
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D

Got a Citroen 7 seater :P :P
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 02 April 2009, 23:56:48
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D

Got a Citroen (it is a van in disguise) 7 seater :P :P

How about a LDV van/minibus, I believe they are cheap at the moment  :y :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: mantagte on 02 April 2009, 23:57:14
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D

Got a 7 seater :P :P
so i see ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:05:31
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D

Got a 7 seater :P :P
so i see ;D
Seems to be a lot of post messing tonight...... :D :D :D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: mantagte on 03 April 2009, 00:06:03
 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:07:18
do our best
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Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:07:40
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What about a Tribant then  ;D ;D ;D ;D

All that smoke............ stick with a Fiat 500.... or a 600 if you have children, no wrong choice, they rust....... Morris 1000 :y

Will start shopping immediately, can't wait to change my car for aaa..... Fiat 600  ;) ;) ;)

 ;D ;D ;D
You could just get something environmentally friendly like my 7 seater push bike...... :y

sinclair c5

I quite fancied on of those at the time, but could not afford one ::) ::) ::)


If you still want one, I know where there is one apparently available  :y :y

My days of such physical activity are long gone.. :'( :'( :'(

How about a nice Kia 7 seater something tacky  ;D ;D

Got a Citroen (it is a van in disguise) 7 seater :P :P

How about a LDV van/minibus, I believe they are cheap at the moment  :y :y

Been there, done that....Bedford J series, Ford Transit and Renault Traffic............When I used to be an Akela........... :P :P :P
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:09:29
How about an old london routemaster turned into a uuummm ...home  :) :) :) I believe at 15 tonnes your can tow your omega behind it  :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:12:08
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How about an old london routemaster turned into a uuummm ...home  :) :) :) I believe at 15 tonnes your can tow your omega behind it  :y

If I had the space to keep one :y I hold PSV and HGV.....next...
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:20:36
So do I, but unfortunately I get to drive one or the other every day  >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:23:43
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So do I, but unfortunately I get to drive one or the other every day  >:( >:( >:(

Both, is that a problem?
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:33:23
not if one is left hand drive and the other is right hand drive  [smiley=tongue.gif] [smiley=tongue.gif]
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:36:22
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not if one is left hand drive and the other is right hand drive  [smiley=tongue.gif] [smiley=tongue.gif]

 :-/ :-/ :-/
So are you a bus or a truck driver, we have both on oof :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:39:10
HGV 1 driver, but can drive Category d as well, but the money is crap on buses
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Vamps on 03 April 2009, 00:45:52
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HGV 1 driver, but can drive Category d as well, but the money is crap on buses

I only ever drove busses part time to supplement my income, so worked for me over the years. Did some agency HGV work and earned very good money, as I did driving tippers for a while. but going back some years. Just got my licence back from DVLA following health problems, they said they were contacting my medics, my medics said thay had not heard anything from them ::) ::)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 00:49:11
'The medical' is the enemy of all professional drivers  :( :o >:(
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Ian_D on 03 April 2009, 01:08:28
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.
Is this actually the case?  :-?

Ive been told that a Vauxhall garage near me has a government scheme thing at the moment that if you buy a brand new car, you get £1000 back for ANY car which you trade in...

The down side of this is the cars which are taken in part-x HAVE to be scrapped!  >:(

And there’s some STUPID people out there... Apparently, someone is buying a brand new Insignia I think, and their trading in 2003 plate TD Vectra with 80k on the clock... So they will get a grand for it, and a 2003 plate car has to be scrapped? How’s that good for the environment?

There’s an immaculate Y reg Astra 1.8 Parked up, been told it looked mint, very clean inside and out.... You've guessed it, its off to the sky too!  >:(
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: Martin_1962 on 03 April 2009, 08:07:52
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Last year the minister the minister for the enviroment came to our school to give some gay talk about the enviroment.

And as I was leaving the car park he was getting into his prius. Well I just had to smoke the tyres didn't I.  ;D ;D ;D

My mate double dared me anyway .


Dirty things - BMW M3 is more economical
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: mantahatch on 03 April 2009, 08:10:06
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.
Is this actually the case?  :-?

Ive been told that a Vauxhall garage near me has a government scheme thing at the moment that if you buy a brand new car, you get £1000 back for ANY car which you trade in...

The down side of this is the cars which are taken in part-x HAVE to be scrapped!  >:(

And there’s some STUPID people out there... Apparently, someone is buying a brand new Insignia I think, and their trading in 2003 plate TD Vectra with 80k on the clock... So they will get a grand for it, and a 2003 plate car has to be scrapped? How’s that good for the environment?

There’s an immaculate Y reg Astra 1.8 Parked up, been told it looked mint, very clean inside and out.... You've guessed it, its off to the sky too!  >:(


Yes that is true, if you consider all the energy required to dig the ore out of the groud, refine and smelt that ore into a material, transport it to the factory, cast,stamp or manufacture that material into a usable part, transport parts to assembly plant, assemble the parts into car, transport car to showroom.

Then after all this someone running an old car untill it can no longer be repaired is far more enviromentally friendly.

Add to this the scrapping of a car, if all metal then not to bad, but these hybrid cars are the worst possible offenders when it come to recycling, the batteres and motors are awfull to dismantle..

The real climate criminals are people in new cars I am afraid, regardless of fuel used.

Mike
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: P_Russell on 03 April 2009, 09:00:28
Drive a big engined car and you're actually saving the environment by funding research through all the additional petrol & road tax you're paying...... ;)

Me - I've got 2 V6 lumps on my drive, both over 10 years old and used daily along with a 1978 1500 Triumph Spitfire which fills our close with soot everytime its started.  Pays your money, takes your choice.  The way the government is 'encouraging' people to drive new cars is criminal - the last thing folks need at the moment is a big car loan to add to their mortgage & credit card debts!!

I bet the Kia fella didn't mention the poverty stricken Koreans being worked to within an inch of their lives to produce his box of cack for a competitive price.......

Rant over.
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: TheBoy on 03 April 2009, 09:04:24
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Cars require more energy to be built than they use in their lifetime.  To reduce overall energy consumption and thus carbon emmisions we should use vehicles for as long as possible.

Plus some of the new cars are producing incredible results.  Look at the new 3l diesel lump from Jaguar/Land Rover.  300hp, 40+ mpg, quiet and bmw/mercedes are panickingly trying to replicate this result!



The guy Mrs TheBoy gets a lift in every day has got a 3l XF diesel.  She really likes it, and say it goes like brown stuff off a spade.  She likes it that much, she is always borrowing it to pop up to Cov most days (he is happy for the miles to stack on it, as its a company car, and this years model is even better specced and cheaper!)
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 03 April 2009, 12:57:05
Bless the old boy across the road from me has brought a new Kia Soul and i kid you not he showed me  ;)

When he plays the radio or cd the front speakers light up and pulse to the music. ;D ;D ;D  yes sad i know

Like he said there must be someone somewhere who gets paid thousands per year to come up with stupid ideas like that :y
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: STMO123 on 03 April 2009, 16:08:38
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Bless the old boy across the road from me has brought a new Kia Soul and i kid you not he showed me  ;)

When he plays the radio or cd the front speakers light up and pulse to the music. ;D ;D ;D  yes sad i know

Like he said there must be someone somewhere who gets paid thousands per year to come up with stupid ideas like that :y

That would be, err, fun on a dark motorway.
Title: Re: Omega versus Kia (Yuk Yuk)
Post by: GG on 03 April 2009, 21:25:06
uuurrrmm I'm sorry I killed that family I was watching the lights on my speakers, they are are UUMMM really cool. oops  :-X :-X