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Title: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 22:24:18
Seems he cheated by omission of some facts when talking to officials. ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: mantagte on 02 April 2009, 22:26:13
so where did he end up 3rd 4th or disqualified as the radio said earlier
i cant keep up
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: tunnie on 02 April 2009, 22:26:47
i heard he removed from the race i thought? no points?  :-/
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: TheBoy on 02 April 2009, 22:27:17
disqualified...
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Entwood on 02 April 2009, 22:27:35
F1 site .. official viewpoint ...  :(


http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9113.html
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Vamps on 02 April 2009, 22:33:48
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disqualified...

Sorry, must have missed that bit, just listening to the news, not really watching or concentrating on it :-[
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Chris_H on 02 April 2009, 23:46:06
You race from 18th to 4th then you open your mouth.

He's going to have to go on a course before he can win the driver's championship again.
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: albitz on 02 April 2009, 23:50:25
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You race from 18th to 4th then you open your mouth.

He's going to have to go on a course before he can win the driver's championship again.
....To learn to speak Berniemax. ;)
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: V6 Gix on 03 April 2009, 00:37:24
Sorry, but all this crap with this idiot really fizzes my liver. All through 2008 he spent most of it whining about other drivers and the FIA, and I'm sure he'll spit his dummy out over this too.

When will Hamilton realise that he's not the F1 legend he seems to think he is?? He opened his gob and said some stupid things over the radio, basically talking bullshit to demote another driver and to promote himself up the points. It's only fair that him and his team gets punished.

He's only world champion because of another driver pulling over and letting him through, and pundits have the bloody cheek to put him in the same league as Senna or Schumacher.

It was so satisfying to see Hamilton get mullered by Jenson Button last weekend. Finally a British driver worth talking about, and hopefully it will put a stop to all the ridiculous Hamilton hype we had to put up with last year.

Ok, rant over.....and breathe......

P.S. Wasn't it bloody brilliant to see F1 back on the BBC....Not an advert in sight.
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: TheBoy on 03 April 2009, 09:15:21
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Sorry, but all this crap with this idiot really fizzes my liver. All through 2008 he spent most of it whining about other drivers and the FIA, and I'm sure he'll spit his dummy out over this too.

When will Hamilton realise that he's not the F1 legend he seems to think he is?? He opened his gob and said some stupid things over the radio, basically talking bullshit to demote another driver and to promote himself up the points. It's only fair that him and his team gets punished.

He's only world champion because of another driver pulling over and letting him through, and pundits have the bloody cheek to put him in the same league as Senna or Schumacher.

It was so satisfying to see Hamilton get mullered by Jenson Button last weekend. Finally a British driver worth talking about, and hopefully it will put a stop to all the ridiculous Hamilton hype we had to put up with last year.

Ok, rant over.....and breathe......

P.S. Wasn't it bloody brilliant to see F1 back on the BBC....Not an advert in sight.
Exactly. Well said.

He needs to prove himself first, and now the McLaren looks off form, he has the ideal oppertunity.

Disagree on Button though - undoubtedly a nice smooth driver, but ultimately a loser with no desire to win.  His 2 wins have been due to luck (1st) and superior car (2nd)
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: steverubberduck on 03 April 2009, 13:13:28
I've got to admit, i did enjoy seeing Jenson cleaning up, a well deserved win i think.
I think Jenson is by far the better driver, and hopefully this will come to light now it seems his car is better with a ferrari man at the helm
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Timbuk on 03 April 2009, 14:39:28


Hamilton now says he was told to lie :-/
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Entwood on 03 April 2009, 15:11:43
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Hamilton now says he was told to lie :-/

I can believe that ... :(

"Team Orders" come from the top .. and when they are paying millions a year they demand, and get, total obedience.

McLaren management are the ones at fault here, and have been in the past. They take all the credit when things go well, but try and shift the blame to the driver when it goes wrong.

I find this development "interesting" ..

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McLaren sporting director Dave Ryan has been suspended by the team following Lewis Hamilton’s disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix.

Ryan was McLaren’s representative in the original post-race stewards’ enquiry in Melbourne, where according to the FIA both he and Hamilton denied deliberately moving aside for Toyota’s Jarno Trulli during the final safety-car period - evidence that was subsequently contradicted by recordings from McLaren's team radio.

“In my 20-odd years working for McLaren, I doubt if I’ve met a more dedicated individual than Davey,” said McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh. “He's been an integral part of McLaren since 1974 and has played a crucial role in the team’s many world championship successes since that time.

“However, his role in the events of last Sunday, particularly his dealings with the FIA stewards, has caused serious repercussions for the team, for which we apologise. Therefore, I suspended him this morning and he has accepted this.”

From the F1 website

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/4/9123.html
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: STMO123 on 03 April 2009, 16:15:04
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I've got to admit, i did enjoy seeing Jenson cleaning up, a well deserved win i think.
I think Jenson is by far the better driver, and hopefully this will come to light now it seems his car is better with a ferrari man at the helm

Ferrari fastest in practice for Sunday. ::)
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: going crazy on 03 April 2009, 16:56:01
I am not too sure if Hamilton is not to blamed on this one. He was the one who was interested in going past (listen to the radio conversation; there is ample proof)

I reckon Dave was the scapegoat in this case; all along Hamilton has had his own opinion & his own mind - why would he disregard his own thoughts this time around?

Personally, I do not reckon the whole story has come out yet; as mentioned by some of you earlier - he deserves to win respect of others and not demand it all the time. Good to see Button win the Australian GP. Now is time for Massa to win one :y
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: amigov6 on 03 April 2009, 20:03:35
I could'nt care less! 8-)
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: albitz on 03 April 2009, 20:41:38
At the 1958 Portugese Grand Prix,Mike Hawthorn slid off the track,he pushed his car back on the track and finished the race in a position to score 1 point.The stewards excluded him for pushing his car back on to the track but his great rival Stirling Moss (who won the race) argued with the stewards in favour of Hawthorn and they re-instated him in the results.
The 1958 world championship was won by Mike Hawthorn,he beat Stirling Moss by 1 point.Did Moss regret arguing in Hawthorns favour ? no,honour was a very important concept in those days,and if you didnt win fair and square it wasnt worth winning.
This was well before it stopped being a sport and became a global business,run by philistines and cigarette salesmen. :(
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Grumpy on 03 April 2009, 22:00:30
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Hamilton now says he was told to lie :-/

Ah. The good old 'Nuremberg Defense'.

Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Richard148 on 03 April 2009, 22:34:06
what was Hamilton supposed to do when the safety car is out stop the whole race to allow for the spin off to return?? common be sensible he allowed the positions to be resorted what else could he do??? [smiley=undecided.gif]

i dunno about all this lying he is supposed of being doing not heard that bit yet properly :o
Title: Re: Hamilton 4th not 3rd
Post by: Timbuk on 04 April 2009, 09:13:49
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what was Hamilton supposed to do when the safety car is out stop the whole race to allow for the spin off to return?? common be sensible he allowed the positions to be resorted what else could he do??? [smiley=undecided.gif]

i dunno about all this lying he is supposed of being doing not heard that bit yet properly :o

Anybody watching BBC1 at the min will now know what happened, what a stupid stupid boy  :( :(