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Title: These kids need drowning
Post by: willyboy on 06 April 2009, 18:04:09
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/7984963.stm
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: miggy on 06 April 2009, 18:09:26
At this age it makes you wonder what type of up bringing they are getting, the world is becoming breaked up.

This type of crime is terrible but this particular one really sickens the stomach.

Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: AndyVXR300 on 06 April 2009, 18:11:41
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At this age it makes you wonder what type of up bringing they are getting, the world is becoming breaked up.

This type of crime is terrible but this particular one really sickens the stomach.



Its dare i say it What is Britain is all about now :(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: miggcddave on 06 April 2009, 18:48:51
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At this age it makes you wonder what type of up bringing they are getting, the world is becoming breaked up.

This type of crime is terrible but this particular one really sickens the stomach.



Its dare i say it What is Britain is all about now :(
rather scum thats all they are >:( what is happening to this country >:(  >:( >:
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: djm1964 on 06 April 2009, 18:50:47
I am genuinely speachless......... :-[ :-X
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 06 April 2009, 19:06:09
I try and always believe that kids today are no worse than those of yesterday years, and boys especially are just as adventurous, loving the odd prank............. ::) ::) ::)

But no, this type of outrage, like with the poor Bulger child, I just cannot recall happening in my childhood up to recent years!! :o :o :o
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Del Boy on 06 April 2009, 19:08:18
Nasty little B*stards. >:(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: unlucky alf on 06 April 2009, 19:09:38
the most annoying thing thatll come from this is the do-gooders will once again crawl from their little holes & protect these "little angels" that in a sane world would be put down >:( also the parents should be held accountable for the little b/stards actions >:( >:(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: HolyCount on 06 April 2009, 19:10:14
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I try and always believe that kids today are no worse than those of yesterday years, and boys especially are just as adventurous, loving the odd prank............. ::) ::) ::)

But no, this type of outrage, like with the poor Bulger child, I just cannot recall happening in my childhood up to recent years!! :o :o :o

 I know what you mean, Lizzie, but there is an element of "evil" creeping in these days.

It's not just the kids and maybe I am remembering through rose tinted specs  :-? but even looking at Roadwars and the like, I cannot recall the same degree of outright hatred and viciousness being present in my day.

The days of "it's a fair cop, Guv" are long gone !
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Pitchfork on 06 April 2009, 19:23:25
Perhaps it's because graphic examples of gratuitous violence is so readily available on the TV, cinema, video games & the parents have been brought up to think that such behaviour is normal?
In my day it was Champion the Wonder Horse, Range Rider, Wells Fargo etc. just innocent shooting of the ones in the black hats & of course the native indians (nobody told them what a lousy immigration policy they had!)
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Elite Pete on 06 April 2009, 19:25:17
Similar to the James Bulger incident, no doubt the Government will spend millions on protecting their identity >:(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: miggcddave on 06 April 2009, 19:28:29
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Similar to the James Bulger incident, no doubt the Government will spend millions on protecting their identity >:(
i agree with you mate  >:( makes me sick >:( >:(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Vamps on 06 April 2009, 19:34:09
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Perhaps it's because graphic examples of gratuitous violence is so readily available on the TV, cinema, video games & the parents have been brought up to think that such behaviour is normal?
In my day it was Champion the Wonder Horse, Range Rider, Wells Fargo etc. just innocent shooting of the ones in the black hats & of course the native indians (nobody told them what a lousy immigration policy they had!)


I understand where you are coming from, but don't fully agree.  In your / our days it was generally Mum at home Dad at work, spanking and slippering if we were naughty, a clip from a police officer and if you got into trouble at school you did not tell your parents because you got into trouble again.

Now, many of these children have a Mother, 2nd or 3rd generation on benefits,  who exercise little or no control, has no interest in where their children are as long as they are out of their hair. There will be no positive Male role model let alone a Dad at home, siblings likely to have different fathers.  

I know this is a generalisation, but let's just see what comes to light about their backgrounds.

Something has gone wrong somewhere  :(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Vamps on 06 April 2009, 19:35:18
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Similar to the James Bulger incident, no doubt the Government will spend millions on protecting their identity >:(
i agree with you mate  >:( makes me sick >:( >:(

That was then, this is now. I think their identities will come out :-X
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Pitchfork on 06 April 2009, 19:38:18
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Perhaps it's because graphic examples of gratuitous violence is so readily available on the TV, cinema, video games & the parents have been brought up to think that such behaviour is normal?
In my day it was Champion the Wonder Horse, Range Rider, Wells Fargo etc. just innocent shooting of the ones in the black hats & of course the native indians (nobody told them what a lousy immigration policy they had!)


I understand where you are coming from, but don't fully agree.  In your / our days it was generally Mum at home Dad at work, spanking and slippering if we were naughty, a clip from a police officer and if you got into trouble at school you did not tell your parents because you got into trouble again.

Now, many of these children have a Mother, 2nd or 3rd generation on benefits,  who exercise little or no control, has no interest in where their children are as long as they are out of their hair. There will be no positive Male role model let alone a Dad at home, siblings likely to have different fathers.  

I know this is a generalisation, but let's just see what comes to light about their backgrounds.

Something has gone wrong somewhere  :(
Then the answer is surely Eugenics
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: froezen on 06 April 2009, 19:40:44
Britain is broken these days it seems. I was walking home from a day out at about 8.30pm, on a busy street where I live, and was the victim of a random assault by a gang of about 10 'kids'. Some were girls who apparently were goading on the boys to do what they were doing.

They broken my nose, chipped 2 of my teeth, cut my eyebrow, and one of them stamped on my leg giving me a rather nasty broken shin bone, meaning I have to wear one of these for the next 6 months.

(http://www.shaunchapman.f2s.com/leg.jpg)

The police couldn't have cared less, and didn't take statements from me or the one whitness for 2 weeks, by which time it was too late to conduct a proper investigation.
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: stuart30 on 06 April 2009, 19:48:18
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Perhaps it's because graphic examples of gratuitous violence is so readily available on the TV, cinema, video games & the parents have been brought up to think that such behaviour is normal?
In my day it was Champion the Wonder Horse, Range Rider, Wells Fargo etc. just innocent shooting of the ones in the black hats & of course the native indians (nobody told them what a lousy immigration policy they had!)


I understand where you are coming from, but don't fully agree.  In your / our days it was generally Mum at home Dad at work, spanking and slippering if we were naughty, a clip from a police officer and if you got into trouble at school you did not tell your parents because you got into trouble again.

Now, many of these children have a Mother, 2nd or 3rd generation on benefits,  who exercise little or no control, has no interest in where their children are as long as they are out of their hair. There will be no positive Male role model let alone a Dad at home, siblings likely to have different fathers.  

I know this is a generalisation, but let's just see what comes to light about their backgrounds.

Something has gone wrong somewhere  :(

When i think back too childhood years i know i was scared too do much wrong for fear of upsetting my parents....god forbid have the police come too the door :o

I have an awful feeling your right and these twisted kids will be shown too come from a scum bag family...who in turn were bred by scum.

There seems little respect for police these days and pretty much no respect for each other and thats not just the younger ones im finding it across most age groups.

Im probably in the fortunate position of being able too pack a bag and leave for a second home overseas....this i feel is now fast becoming a reality rather than a possibility as im finding myself questioning ""Do i want my children too grow up in this society""......not a bloody chance. >:(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Richie London on 06 April 2009, 20:01:52
i got the cane at school, when my dad founf out a got another wallop from him and wasnt aloud out until he said so, you darent cross your parents as you know you would get a wallop, it taught me to respect other people and there property. 6 kids, dad working away and mum working at the school in lunchtime and we still all pulled together to get on, most of the time. when dad came home at end of week it was whos done what and why and then wallop get upstairs and dont come down till i tell you.. thats how it should be done.
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Martin_1962 on 06 April 2009, 20:54:04
A lad I know has been the victim of many attacks.

He got stabbed so he returned the knife the same way.

He got beaten up, he went round for months after getting them one at a time.

His car got attacked the attackees car got redecorated

His answer was to move away
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Richie London on 06 April 2009, 22:19:02
nutter in hillingdon threw a concrete bollard through a kids car window while he was driving after they attacked his son, then he dragged them out and smashed there heads in with a baseball bat, no charges brought as they were too afraid.

another one in hayes. kid knicked a motorbike, bloke made a stake then nailed him to it and was just about to set light to it when police pulled up. same thing, no charges were brought
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Vamps on 06 April 2009, 22:36:17
I know this will go down like a lead balloon but what about bringing back National Service.

It teaches discipline, respect for yourself and others.  We are giving a lot of youngsters money and housing anyway. I know the services are much softer these days, may be they could not cope with some of todays young :(
Time we all got tougher with the criminal element before it takes over.

Just my personal tuppence worth :)
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 April 2009, 22:51:54
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I know this will go down like a lead balloon but what about bringing back National Service.

It teaches discipline, respect for yourself and others.  We are giving a lot of youngsters money and housing anyway. I know the services are much softer these days, may be they could not cope with some of todays young :(
Time we all got tougher with the criminal element before it takes over.

Just my personal tuppence worth :)

That and the Workhouse, and the Borstals, and we'll be getting somewhere. Teach them that nothing comes without hard work, that you respect those in authority and that if you stray from the path life gets very hard. >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: BigAl on 06 April 2009, 22:55:14
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I know this will go down like a lead balloon but what about bringing back National Service.

It teaches discipline, respect for yourself and others.  We are giving a lot of youngsters money and housing anyway. I know the services are much softer these days, may be they could not cope with some of todays young :(
Time we all got tougher with the criminal element before it takes over.

Just my personal tuppence worth :)
good idea - unfortunately the forces don't want these illiterate obese pricks
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: albitz on 06 April 2009, 23:22:53
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Perhaps it's because graphic examples of gratuitous violence is so readily available on the TV, cinema, video games & the parents have been brought up to think that such behaviour is normal?
In my day it was Champion the Wonder Horse, Range Rider, Wells Fargo etc. just innocent shooting of the ones in the black hats & of course the native indians (nobody told them what a lousy immigration policy they had!)


I understand where you are coming from, but don't fully agree.  In your / our days it was generally Mum at home Dad at work, spanking and slippering if we were naughty, a clip from a police officer and if you got into trouble at school you did not tell your parents because you got into trouble again.

Now, many of these children have a Mother, 2nd or 3rd generation on benefits,  who exercise little or no control, has no interest in where their children are as long as they are out of their hair. There will be no positive Male role model let alone a Dad at home, siblings likely to have different fathers.  

I know this is a generalisation, but let's just see what comes to light about their backgrounds.

Something has gone wrong somewhere  :(

And the taxation/benifits system positively encourages this,this imo is a large part of what has gone wrong.
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Chris_H on 07 April 2009, 00:40:25
It's heartening to see that quite a few on this forum acknowledge that it's bad.

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A Downing Street spokesman said that Prime Minister Gordon Brown had cautioned against drawing any wider conclusions about the state of society

Very naughty not to heed our leader's caution though.  Apparently it's a one-off and there aren't a lot of morally-bereft youngsters looking to take over as we grow older!  :(
Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Vamps on 07 April 2009, 00:45:51
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It's heartening to see that quite a few on this forum acknowledge that it's bad.

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A Downing Street spokesman said that Prime Minister Gordon Brown had cautioned against drawing any wider conclusions about the state of society

Very naughty not to heed our leader's caution though. Apparently it's a one-off and there aren't a lot of morally-bereft youngsters looking to take over as we grow older!  :(

I think then that he needs to visit a few towns and cities and have a walk around the 'sink' estates that exist almost everywhere, if he can't find any then I can point him in the right direction.......... :(


Title: Re: These kids need drowning
Post by: Cumbria on 07 April 2009, 00:48:06
If my dogs behaved like that  they'd be put down. So why should those two be treated differently. They will probably end up on crack & using guns next.