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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: kcl on 14 April 2009, 07:43:08
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Could we (=someone) make a list of most common tools needed to service Omegas? Also a reference list of different sealants would be useful, as we know, most of genuine goos can be replaced with suitable Loctite/some other branded items.
I have found that on Omegas there are e.g. 18 mm nuts on suspension, which is very rare size to have on most socket sets. Also different torx-sizes could be listed.
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Could we (=someone) make a list of most common tools needed to service Omegas? Also a reference list of different sealants would be useful, as we know, most of genuine goos can be replaced with suitable Loctite/some other branded items.
I have found that on Omegas there are e.g. 18 mm nuts on suspension, which is very rare size to have on most socket sets. Also different torx-sizes could be listed.
Not at Halford's, 1/2" sets and singularly.
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all my recent socket sets have 18mm, I think its only the cheapies that don't
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Dont think they have Halfrauds in Finland.
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>:( What I ment to say was that 17 and 19 are more common sizes than 18... not where to buy your tools. And yes, we do not have Hafrauds in Finland.
But still, is there any use for the kind of a list that was in my original post? which TX- and E- sizes needed, any "special" tools needed (crows foot spanner sizes etc), which sealant is equivalent to GM original sealants etc.
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>:( What I ment to say was that 17 and 19 are more common sizes than 18... not where to buy your tools. And yes, we do not have Hafrauds in Finland.
But still, is there any use for the kind of a list that was in my original post? which TX- and E- sizes needed, any "special" tools needed (crows foot spanner sizes etc), which sealant is equivalent to GM original sealants etc.
Ok, keep your hair on! >:( Only trying to help!! >:( But just did not notice where you live! ::) ::)
In anycase I find it hard to believe that in the western world 18mm sockets are hard to find! >:( >:(
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Okay, let's all cheer up with this ;)
They are not hard to find, but the usual selection in small household-socket-sets is 8-10-13-14-17-19-21 mm. Availability of tools is not the issue, just to know/have an idea which tools you should have on hand when starting any overhaul/maintenance to your Omega. For example, tools for oil change: 24 mm spanner (IME no room for a socket with 1/2" drive ratchet) for filter, tx45 for sump plug... For cambelt job 30 mm offset ring spanner, E60 (or was it E55), cam lockin tools etc...
Also the sealants used are interesting. People have different ideas which Loctite is the same/equivalent for which colour of GM goo... Does anyone have any FACTS about the sealants used? GM-engineers have not invented the sealants themselves, they are for sure from a known brand...
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Sounds like a good idea.
Will try to pull something together over the next few weeks. I do have info on some of the sealents (but not all).
Interestingly, 18mm is common on many cars.
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I'll start off with
Sockets (mm)
7,10,12 (TD only),13,15,17,18
Torx Sockets
E10,E12,E14,E20
Allen keys (mm)
2,5
Spanners (mm)
30mm
Crowsfoot (mm)
19
Feel free to quote and add
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I'll start off with
Sockets (mm)
7,10,12 (TD only),13,15,17,18
Torx Sockets
E10,E12,E14,E20
Allen keys (mm)
2,5
Spanners (mm)
30mm
Crowsfoot (mm)
19
Torque Wrench: 8 - 60Nm
Torque Wrench: 60 - 210Nm
Set of adaptors: 3/4" - 1/2", 1/2" - 3/8"
Breaker bar: 18" minimum
Feel free to quote and add
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I'll start off with
Sockets (mm)
7,10,12 (TD only),13,15,17,18
Torx Sockets
E10,E12,E14,E20
Allen keys (mm)
2,5
Spanners (mm)
30mm
Crowsfoot (mm)
19
Torque Wrench: 8 - 60Nm
Torque Wrench: 60 - 210Nm
Set of adaptors: 3/4" - 1/2", 1/2" - 3/8"
Breaker bar: 18" minimum
TX50 for Cams
30mm ring spanner for timing belt pulleys
90485251 Black sealant for cam cover gaskets
Feel free to quote and add
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I'll start off with
Sockets (mm)
7,10,12 (TD only),13,15,17,18
Torx Sockets
E10,E12,E14,E20
Allen keys (mm)
2,5
Spanners (mm)
30mm
Crowsfoot (mm)
19
Torque Wrench: 8 - 60Nm
Torque Wrench: 60 - 210Nm
Set of adaptors: 3/4" - 1/2", 1/2" - 3/8"
Breaker bar: 18" minimum
TX50 for Cams
30mm ring spanner for timing belt pulleys
90485251 Black sealant for cam cover gaskets
Feel free to quote and add
24mm??? socket for V6's with paper oil filter arrangement.
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Sockets - add 22mm (V6 coolant bridge, etc). Seem to recall needing a 21mm on a suspension component once, can't recall what though.
Also - you can get by without them, but slightly offset torx spanners can be a godsend, especially on the front coolant transfer pipe retaining bolt.
In addition, a good range of pliers, incl long nose/needle nose, hose clip pliers (for the cooling system and SAI pipes), water pump pliers are useful too - and of course a set of fuel filter pliers for petrol models - especailly Estates.
Timing setup kit for concentric idler setup on V6 models (£60 off ebay, fine for DIY use)
Rubber mallet - for those awkward pulley's and water pump!
Device for sucking oil out of plug wells - often overlooked!
Wire coat hanger or simelar, for cleaning breather assembly
24mm open end spanner - for EGR wiggly pipe and holding camshafts still
Angle measuring gauge - head bolts and simelar
Cheapo Tech2 for code clearing - especially useful on DBW engines.
For the more adventurous - valve spring compressor for head rebuilds (Halfords laser one at £30 is excellent)
As odd as it sounds - a gunson timing light has come in useful for me a few times - not to check timing, but purely to identify if HT leads are carrying a spark, on troublesome cars
Cooling header tank cap with Shrader valve bodged in - for pressuring coolant system with plenum off, and identifying leaks
Sump plug helicoil kit - a must have on older models with the hex drain plug!
A hand-pump from machine mart (£7 ish) for topping up autoboxes. Alternatively, for filling autoboxes, a "killaspray" type device, around £30 from a garden centre, is a great ATF filling method.
Some 3 tonne sturdy axle stands and a good, strong trolley jack, are a must. Folding stands are to be avoided at all costs. I recommend the machine mart, "Clarke" heavy duty 3 tonne jack, at £80. Stands can be had from halfrauds for £30 - combination works well for me.
A mirror, slightly offset on a little pole, for looking down back of engine
Easibleed - for reverse bleeding manual transmissions..
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Sockets - add 22mm (V6 coolant bridge, etc). Seem to recall needing a 21mm on a suspension component once, can't recall what though.
Also - you can get by without them, but slightly offset torx spanners can be a godsend, especially on the front coolant transfer pipe retaining bolt.
In addition, a good range of pliers, incl long nose/needle nose, hose clip pliers (for the cooling system and SAI pipes), water pump pliers are useful too - and of course a set of fuel filter pliers for petrol models - especailly Estates.
Timing setup kit for concentric idler setup on V6 models (£60 off ebay, fine for DIY use)
Rubber mallet - for those awkward pulley's and water pump!
Device for sucking oil out of plug wells - often overlooked!
Wire coat hanger or simelar, for cleaning breather assembly
24mm open end spanner - for EGR wiggly pipe and holding camshafts still
Angle measuring gauge - head bolts and simelar
Cheapo Tech2 for code clearing - especially useful on DBW engines.
For the more adventurous - valve spring compressor for head rebuilds (Halfords laser one at £30 is excellent)
As odd as it sounds - a gunson timing light has come in useful for me a few times - not to check timing, but purely to identify if HT leads are carrying a spark, on troublesome cars
Cooling header tank cap with Shrader valve bodged in - for pressuring coolant system with plenum off, and identifying leaks
Sump plug helicoil kit - a must have on older models with the hex drain plug!
A hand-pump from machine mart (£7 ish) for topping up autoboxes. Alternatively, for filling autoboxes, a "killaspray" type device, around £30 from a garden centre, is a great ATF filling method.
Some 3 tonne sturdy axle stands and a good, strong trolley jack, are a must. Folding stands are to be avoided at all costs. I recommend the machine mart, "Clarke" heavy duty 3 tonne jack, at £80. Stands can be had from halfrauds for £30 - combination works well for me.
A mirror, slightly offset on a little pole, for looking down back of engine
Easibleed - for reverse bleeding manual transmissions..
30mm socket - oil cooler
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Sounds like a good idea.
Will try to pull something together over the next few weeks. I do have info on some of the sealents (but not all).
Interestingly, 18mm is common on many cars.
Then my experience is out-of-date or something... ok, most of my knowledge is based on old Fords and japanese cars, dozens in total (though english made, Primeras and Carinas...) and ever never have needed 18 mm before Omegas.
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Sounds like a good idea.
Will try to pull something together over the next few weeks. I do have info on some of the sealents (but not all).
Interestingly, 18mm is common on many cars.
Then my experience is out-of-date or something... ok, most of my knowledge is based on old Fords and japanese cars, dozens in total (though english made, Primeras and Carinas...) and ever never have needed 18 mm before Omegas.
BTW Do you have Biltema in Finland? When I lived in Sweden I loved that shop :y
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Sounds like a good idea.
Will try to pull something together over the next few weeks. I do have info on some of the sealents (but not all).
Interestingly, 18mm is common on many cars.
Then my experience is out-of-date or something... ok, most of my knowledge is based on old Fords and japanese cars, dozens in total (though english made, Primeras and Carinas...) and ever never have needed 18 mm before Omegas.
A while ago, most socket sets seemed to skip 18mm, but you'll notice that most newer sets do include it, as 18mm has become more and more common.
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Sounds like a good idea.
Will try to pull something together over the next few weeks. I do have info on some of the sealents (but not all).
Interestingly, 18mm is common on many cars.
Then my experience is out-of-date or something... ok, most of my knowledge is based on old Fords and japanese cars, dozens in total (though english made, Primeras and Carinas...) and ever never have needed 18 mm before Omegas.
BTW Do you have Biltema in Finland? When I lived in Sweden I loved that shop :y
Yes, we do, and it really is a good place for tools. Very large selection of various tools and stuff, most tools with 10 year guarantee...