Omega Owners Forum
Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: VX1 on 16 April 2009, 20:15:21
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I think if we support the team it will endeavour to tell the Admin Team what 'WE' as forum members want to happen to this site. I believe this forum is a contribution to us all and we should respect the forum and all who use it including the Admin Team.
Paul :y
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Would prefer not to get involved in such discussions really - however I think it might just be best to let this flow under the bridge... :y
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Agree with James.
Too much analysing going on............
:)
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An unnecessary poll IMHO, so I won't be taking part. The site is NOT a democracy, it is "owned" and "run" by the Admin staff.
We show our support for them daily by taking part and obeying the very simple rules - common decency, politeness and consideration of others.
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I agree with you James, But I would like OOF to be kept going and believe that alot of us do as well. All this poll is about is to show the admin team that WE do support them in whatever they do. They do a great job and give up there free time to look after the site and would like to see the site still here next year and longer.
Paul :y
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
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An unnecessary poll IMHO, so I won't be taking part. The site is NOT a democracy, it is "owned" and "run" by the Admin staff.
We show our support for them daily by taking part and obeying the very simple rules - common decency, politeness and consideration of others.
I totally agree. Well articulated :y
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Okay poll gone but agree with LSG1 best site ever!!
Paul :y
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It has all been said I think. 8-) 8-)
Enough for me. 8-) 8-) ;) ;)
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Absolutely, the admin already know what I feel about their work here but I like your intentions :y
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Admin team you may delete this thread if you so wish. I think I was getting ahead of myself.
Paul
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Admin team you may delete this thread if you so wish. I think I was getting ahead of myself.
Paul
Not at all Paul! :o You had very good motives, so nowt wrong with that! 8-) 8-) 8-)
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must admit am new this this sort of stuff, and generally am impressed- however was surpirised at some of the stuff on it recently-- hope will come back in a civilised manner
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must admit am new this this sort of stuff, and generally am impressed- however was surpirised at some of the stuff on it recently-- hope will come back in a civilised manner
It will, and has, for this part of general society, the good, the bad and the ugly (used that twice tonight!!), which is reflected here. ;) ;)
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I just don't want to rock the boat anymore. I think we have all had enough of what went on including me, but as you say Lizzie my intentions were/are still there. I
like,no sorry I will say it LOVE this site and is very very useful indeed. Without it I would never be able to keep my car running and keep it on the road, but with the help of all the OOFers on here I can. Top banana everyone :y :y [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] [smiley=vrolijk_26.gif]
Paul :y
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must admit am new this this sort of stuff, and generally am impressed- however was surpirised at some of the stuff on it recently-- hope will come back in a civilised manner
It will, and has, for this part of general society, the good, the bad and the ugly (used that twice tonight!!), which is reflected here. ;) ;)
Sorry dude! Dont mind LZ, she's one of our 2 sexy engineers on here, she has this thing about cowboys and rough men.........she even went back to uni to qwench her fetish...poor girl..... ::)
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Banana has only got 2 N's mate
Dont mean to offend (have to say that!!!)
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Banana has only got 2 N's mate
Dont mean to offend (have to say that!!!)
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No worry's mate just didn't look right with 2 :-[ :-[
Paul
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lol
:)
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
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Would love to Rich, but the wife won't ;D ;D
Paul :y
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
3rd in your case.
You forgot th Sheeeeeeeeeeeeepshaggers one. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
3rd in your case.
You forgot th Sheeeeeeeeeeeeepshaggers one. ;D ;D ;D ;D
forgot about that, do you know baaaaarbara form RAMsgate, shes a bit mutton, we met on the WOOLwich ferry. EWE know the one, she give me a lamb shank one night ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
3rd in your case.
You forgot th Sheeeeeeeeeeeeepshaggers one. ;D ;D ;D ;D
forgot about that, do you know baaaaarbara form RAMsgate, shes a bit mutton, we met on the WOOLwich ferry. EWE know the one, she give me a lamb shank one night ;D ;D ;D ;D
a boney one? ::) ;D
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
3rd in your case.
You forgot th Sheeeeeeeeeeeeepshaggers one. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I didn't think we were including them sort of sites ;D
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I'm telling you without a doubt this is the best site I have ever used, it's brilliant :y
But no need for all the threads :-/
2nd best site in my opinion, you obviously dont use swingers.com ;D ;D ;D
3rd in your case.
You forgot th Sheeeeeeeeeeeeepshaggers one. ;D ;D ;D ;D
forgot about that, do you know baaaaarbara form RAMsgate, shes a bit mutton, we met on the WOOLwich ferry. EWE know the one, she give me a lamb shank one night ;D ;D ;D ;D
a boney one? ::) ;D
;D ;D ;D :y :y :y
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Would prefer not to get involved in such discussions really - however I think it might just be best to let this flow under the bridge... :y
Here Here
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dont think its necessary to ask, it goes without saying imho.
But seeing as we are here, and in case there is any doubt what so ever, in the minds of anyone involved, personally i dont think anyone will dis agree when i say
Facking YES! ... Of course we bloody support them.
I think i may have seen some of what went on recently, not sure, but one person shouldnt be causing this much agro, binned and gone. History...
Lets move on...
No group or individual should have to put up with recent "behaviour". No need...
One thing i will say, at the rate this forum is growing, it aint going to get any easier surely? The traffic on here is, well, alot it seems to me.....
How on earth do Admin find the time?
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An unnecessary poll IMHO, so I won't be taking part. The site is NOT a democracy, it is "owned" and "run" by the Admin staff.
We show our support for them daily by taking part and obeying the very simple rules - common decency, politeness and consideration of others.
I have no idea what went on nor do I want to know, but as usual Entwood has summed up thing up perfectly.
It is a privileged not a right to be a member of such a well run site. I normally do not bother with forums because of the bitching and pettiness, but after watching this site for sometime, plus my love of omegas, I decided to join.
I hope this well mannered and informative site continues as it is :y
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Banana has only got 2 N's mate
Dont mean to offend (have to say that!!!)
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"Didn't/Did not mean ot offend" :P
sorry :y
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Banana has only got 2 N's mate
Dont mean to offend (have to say that!!!)
:y
"Didn't/Did not mean ot offend" :P
sorry :y
lol
Dont = Present tense
Didnt/did not = Past tense
I stand by my vocabulary............!!
lol
:y
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Banana has only got 2 N's mate
Dont mean to offend (have to say that!!!)
:y
"Didn't/Did not mean ot offend" :P
sorry :y
lol
Dont = Present tense
Didnt/did not = Past tense
I stand by my vocabulary............!!
lol
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And its TO ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Paul :y
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lol
Moving on.......
;D
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Got to agree with Paul to be honest
This site is the greatest for the Omega Owner... BUT
Without the [size=10]admin staff it would not survive[/size]
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Got to agree with Paul to be honest
This site is the greatest for the Omega Owner... BUT
Without the [size=10]admin staff it would not survive[/size]
Why have you changed your name? I remember the picture!
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Got to agree with Paul to be honest
This site is the greatest for the Omega Owner... BUT
Without the [size=10]admin staff it would not survive[/size]
Why have you changed your name? I remember the picture!
Andy... was a bit bland tunnie to be honest hence the change !!
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Got to agree with Paul to be honest
This site is the greatest for the Omega Owner... BUT
Without the [size=10]admin staff it would not survive[/size]
Why have you changed your name? I remember the picture!
Andy... was a bit bland tunnie to be honest hence the change !!
Fair doos it was confusing me i reconised the avatar but not the name. It gets even more confusing when an established member does it ;D
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Got to agree with Paul to be honest
This site is the greatest for the Omega Owner... BUT
Without the [size=10]admin staff it would not survive[/size]
Why have you changed your name? I remember the picture!
Andy... was a bit bland tunnie to be honest hence the change !!
Changed mine a couple of times too.
Think is O.K. now
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I`m not going to get involved in this - dont really know what its about.
But a bit of history.
The actions of a mindless few caused a split elsewhere. The actions of a few mindless people here may do the same. Frankly the admin team dont need what seems to have been directed at them.
Certain members of The admin team, to those that were not here from the beginning, are direcly responsible for the creation of this site - there not voted in, they didnt inherit or volunteer.....They physically created this place!!
Jamie and Mark DTM your work here wont ever be forgotten by those of us that followed you over from "the darkside"
H21 and AA your work is appreciated and not ever taken for granted.
Now, anyone want to buy a decent car...... :D
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I`m not going to get involved in this - dont really know what its about.
But a bit of history.
The actions of a mindless few caused a split elsewhere. The actions of a few mindless people here may do the same. Frankly the admin team dont need what seems to have been directed at them.
Certain members of The admin team, to those that were not here from the beginning, are direcly responsible for the creation of this site - there not voted in, they didnt inherit or volunteer.....They physically created this place!!
Jamie and Mark DTM your work here wont ever be forgotten by those of us that followed you over from "the darkside"
H21 and AA your work is appreciated and not ever taken for granted.
Now, anyone want to buy a decent car...... :D
;D ;D
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I`m not going to get involved in this - dont really know what its about.
But a bit of history.
The actions of a mindless few caused a split elsewhere. The actions of a few mindless people here may do the same. Frankly the admin team dont need what seems to have been directed at them.
Certain members of The admin team, to those that were not here from the beginning, are direcly responsible for the creation of this site - there not voted in, they didnt inherit or volunteer.....They physically created this place!!
Jamie and Mark DTM your work here wont ever be forgotten by those of us that followed you over from "the darkside"
H21 and AA your work is appreciated and not ever taken for granted.
I am relatively new here, but enough said I think :y :y :y :y :y
Now, anyone want to buy a decent car...... :D
Thought about a Hyundai Accent (uurrrrgghhh please no) :D :D :D
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..omegas are decent cars! just that i happen to drive a volvo at the moment (im in a lazy arse period) i want another omega though dont you lot worry ;) just dont ban me for turning to the darkside lol
anyway im guessing general chat isnt "closed" now?
p.s i know what the point of this thread was but the vast majority of the forums users dont need a thread to try and kiss and make up with admin, from what i'v seen it's only a small minority of users that are rebels :P
and yes we need to keep oof going because vxon's omega section is lacking
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..omegas are decent cars! just that i happen to drive a volvo at the moment (im in a lazy arse period) i want another omega though dont you lot worry ;) just dont ban me for turning to the darkside lol
anyway im guessing general chat isnt "closed" now?
p.s i know what the point of this thread was but the vast majority of the forums users dont need a thread to try and kiss and make up with admin, from what i'v seen it's only a small minority of users that are rebels :P
and yes we need to keep oof going because vxon's omega section is lacking
Massive understatement :o :( >:(
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lol you know what i mean though! :P
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I`m not going to get involved in this - dont really know what its about.
But a bit of history.
The actions of a mindless few caused a split elsewhere. The actions of a few mindless people here may do the same. Frankly the admin team dont need what seems to have been directed at them.
Certain members of The admin team, to those that were not here from the beginning, are direcly responsible for the creation of this site - there not voted in, they didnt inherit or volunteer.....They physically created this place!!
Jamie and Mark DTM your work here wont ever be forgotten by those of us that followed you over from "the darkside"
H21 and AA your work is appreciated and not ever taken for granted.
Now, anyone want to buy a decent car...... :D
Well said that man :y. The action taken was required and was initiated in a professional manner no different to accounts being administrated in a work environment or the likes of BEBO when things get shi**y.
The mass exodus from the darkside left the Omega owning community in disarray for a while and to date it has never really recovered fully although certain admins sill nip back in to give advice as members and good on them for it.
I've saying my bit as a member who is no longer an owner and will only be nipping in now and again so I'll say what I mean without worry about my post count being cut or being accused of brown nosing -
Mark and TB and a small percentage of other members have not built their counts purely by contributing to the welcome etc one word threads which rocket individuals to great heights within the nobility, check back on the technical detail provided and think about who provides a service to the ownership of the particular marque before slating them.
Abuse it, you lose it.
Steve
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I`m not going to get involved in this - dont really know what its about.
But a bit of history.
The actions of a mindless few caused a split elsewhere. The actions of a few mindless people here may do the same. Frankly the admin team dont need what seems to have been directed at them.
Certain members of The admin team, to those that were not here from the beginning, are direcly responsible for the creation of this site - there not voted in, they didnt inherit or volunteer.....They physically created this place!!
Jamie and Mark DTM your work here wont ever be forgotten by those of us that followed you over from "the darkside"
H21 and AA your work is appreciated and not ever taken for granted.
Now, anyone want to buy a decent car...... :D
Well said that man :y. The action taken was required and was initiated in a professional manner no different to accounts being administrated in a work environment or the likes of BEBO when things get shi**y.
The mass exodus from the darkside left the Omega owning community in disarray for a while and to date it has never really recovered fully although certain admins sill nip back in to give advice as members and good on them for it.
I've saying my bit as a member who is no longer an owner and will only be nipping in now and again so I'll say what I mean without worry about my post count being cut or being accused of brown nosing -
Mark and TB and a small percentage of other members have not built their counts purely by contributing to the welcome etc one word threads which rocket individuals to great heights within the nobility, check back on the technical detail provided and think about who provides a service to the ownership of the particular marque before slating them.
Abuse it, you lose it.
Steve
The most important words typed tonight by anyone. End of.
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Sorry to prolong the thread guys/girls, but can only echo much of what Entwood and others have said. Have been on the OOF for about a year now and have thoroughly enjoyed my time here with both helpful advice and friendly banter. Have nothing but admiration for both the Admins who give so much of their time to it and also to many of the regulars but its all gone a little silly lately with the banter slipping into personal abuse for which I for one have little time. Please lets back to just having some fun on the "chat" threads (as well as the discussions of more serious topical subjects) and continue to share the wealth of knowledge that is on here regarding our beloved migs. :y
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Very interesting that TB confirmed my hunch over PMs - all they needed was the threat.
There is no need for any nastyness.
Light touch moderation does work when forum users respect the forum.
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Very interesting that TB confirmed my hunch over PMs - all they needed was the threat.
There is no need for any nastyness.
Light touch moderation does work when forum users respect the forum.
That makes 2 of us Martin.
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Very interesting that TB confirmed my hunch over PMs - all they needed was the threat.
There is no need for any nastyness.
Light touch moderation does work when forum users respect the forum.
That makes 2 of us Martin.
Well we are special cases (looks at post counts) ;D ;D
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
Dont use it then. Simple as.
There is allways. MSN, YIM. AOL and Skype. Most of use a selction any way.
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
Fully agreed again Optimist in all respects! :y :y :y :y :y
But, I know globally that all "private" communications may not be in 2009 (as it was back in 1990, it has just got worse) and everything is monitored at all levels as I've said.
This doesn't justify private communication and general actions being monitored by third parties, but in the current political climate in the western world (especially the UK) normal freedoms of the liberal society is taking second place to the needs for national security. Although at last a review is being undertaken to assess exactly why councils are using so much surveillance for "the greater good" of some utilitarian society.
I have for a long time decided not to put anything in an e-mail or telephone conversation without considering who may read or listen to it. As I know senior police officers even have to be ultra careful what they discuss on their mobile telephones or put in e-mails when working alongside MI5. That point I can discuss no more than that.
We all now live in that environment, that is far from the 1950's, and coming down to the mundane subject of the OOF, we either go along with the Admins monitoring our PM's or not. Personal choice of course. As frequently said many times before the Admins run the site by a lot of hard work, dedication and commitment, trying to keep some factions apart, which should not be necessary. So, if they need to use monitoring methods to control the forum they are legally and morally responsible for, so be it.
It is a great free site, worth every effort to keep things singing along.
That's my final outlook on this matter. ;) ;) ;)
Peace and love to all! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :D :D
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
Dont use it then. Simple as.
There is allways. MSN, YIM. AOL and Skype. Most of use a selction any way.
Have just set up MSN last night.......and will move on to others as time allows. :y
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Have just set up MSN last night.......and will move on to others as time allows. :y
They are all good services and have their plus and minus bitz.
I have found YIM handy for when I buy something. I put a note on the calender to remind me that the warrnty is nearly up.
For example. If you buy a warranty from Richer sounds, if you dont make a claim you get your money back on the warrnty, how many of us remember to claim it back. :-X
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Have just set up MSN last night.......and will move on to others as time allows. :y
They are all good services and have their plus and minus bitz.
I have found YIM handy for when I buy something. I put a note on the calender to remind me that the warrnty is nearly up.
For example. If you buy a warranty from Richer sounds, if you dont make a claim you get your money back on the warrnty, how many of us remember to claim it back. :-X
Thanks Skruntie...............Have just joined YIM............Do you have to pay for Skype or is it free? :y :y
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
Fully agreed again Optimist in all respects! :y :y :y :y :y
But, I know globally that all "private" communications may not be in 2009 (as it was back in 1990, it has just got worse) and everything is monitored at all levels as I've said.
This doesn't justify private communication and general actions being monitored by third parties, but in the current political climate in the western world (especially the UK) normal freedoms of the liberal society is taking second place to the needs for national security. Although at last a review is being undertaken to assess exactly why councils are using so much surveillance for "the greater good" of some utilitarian society.
I have for a long time decided not to put anything in an e-mail or telephone conversation without considering who may read or listen to it. As I know senior police officers even have to be ultra careful what they discuss on their mobile telephones or put in e-mails when working alongside MI5. That point I can discuss no more than that.
We all now live in that environment, that is far from the 1950's, and coming down to the mundane subject of the OOF, we either go along with the Admins monitoring our PM's or not. Personal choice of course. As frequently said many times before the Admins run the site by a lot of hard work, dedication and commitment, trying to keep some factions apart, which should not be necessary. So, if they need to use monitoring methods to control the forum they are legally and morally responsible for, so be it.
It is a great free site, worth every effort to keep things singing along.
That's my final outlook on this matter. ;) ;) ;)
Peace and love to all! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :D :D
Agreed Lizzie................and I hardly think that we can use the "national security "argument......... here at OOF.
But as you rightly say.......and I concur.............OOF is a great free site ............with many good points. :y :y :y
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Have just set up MSN last night.......and will move on to others as time allows. :y
They are all good services and have their plus and minus bitz.
I have found YIM handy for when I buy something. I put a note on the calender to remind me that the warrnty is nearly up.
For example. If you buy a warranty from Richer sounds, if you dont make a claim you get your money back on the warrnty, how many of us remember to claim it back. :-X
Thanks Skruntie...............Have just joined YIM............Do you have to pay for Skype or is it free? :y :y
Tis free as in a messenger service, and VOIP from PC to PC is free. To a landlaine or mobile they do charge but it is cheap, especially calls abroad to a landline. :y
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As said at the start of my post yesterday.......................TB and the Admin team do a great job overall...............excellent in some respects........and deserve credit for their ceaseless efforts
It is now well documented that I ....and some others ...........are very much against the PM privacy issue..........I stand by that.
But despite these differences...................well done to TB and the Admin team. :y :y :y :y
Fully agreed again Optimist in all respects! :y :y :y :y :y
But, I know globally that all "private" communications may not be in 2009 (as it was back in 1990, it has just got worse) and everything is monitored at all levels as I've said.
This doesn't justify private communication and general actions being monitored by third parties, but in the current political climate in the western world (especially the UK) normal freedoms of the liberal society is taking second place to the needs for national security. Although at last a review is being undertaken to assess exactly why councils are using so much surveillance for "the greater good" of some utilitarian society.
I have for a long time decided not to put anything in an e-mail or telephone conversation without considering who may read or listen to it. As I know senior police officers even have to be ultra careful what they discuss on their mobile telephones or put in e-mails when working alongside MI5. That point I can discuss no more than that.
We all now live in that environment, that is far from the 1950's, and coming down to the mundane subject of the OOF, we either go along with the Admins monitoring our PM's or not. Personal choice of course. As frequently said many times before the Admins run the site by a lot of hard work, dedication and commitment, trying to keep some factions apart, which should not be necessary. So, if they need to use monitoring methods to control the forum they are legally and morally responsible for, so be it.
It is a great free site, worth every effort to keep things singing along.
That's my final outlook on this matter. ;) ;) ;)
Peace and love to all! :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :D :D
Agreed Lizzie................and I hardly think that we can use the "national security "argument......... here at OOF.
But as you rightly say.......and I concur.............OOF is a great free site ............with many good points. :y :y :y
Thanks Optimist. :y :y
I was just making the point that questioning what is really private and treated as such by society in general has changed to what we have in 2009. The psychology of us all has therefore been affected by it at all levels, without many perhaps realising it is so. :( :( ;) ;)
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yes i support the admin team 100%
without them there would be no oof and people would be lost witout the site
i know i would
this site and the members on it have helped me out no end and i hope i have managed to help a few back
keep up the great work you are respected for the work you do :y :y
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I think this has been done enough now :)
Its good to know the Admin Team have the support of the bulk of the membership, it helps us know we are getting things right (and, conversely wrong in some areas).
It is also refreshing, after the week or so OOF has endured, that there does appear to be common sense and decency within the community, a community that seemed to be driving people away, rather than encouraging the community to grow - I know I was a whisker away from jacking it all in, and I know from msgs to me that I was not alone.
Sadly, I would like to say I am sorry for the heavy handed, Draconian measures taken on Wednesday evening, but I'm not. I believed it was necessaryb at that point in time. Feelings and tempers were running high and it was a way to enforce everyone here, not just those embriolled in the nastiness, to sit back and take stock. It also allowed our dedicated Admins to clean up the mess, instead of firefighting.
As to privacy, to clear this up once and for all, like any website owner, the Admins have access to any info that we collect from you - some is stored encrypted, some isn't. Never checked if the encryption is a one way or 2 way hash - if the latter, should be easy to unencrypt, if the former, I'm guessing cracking wouldn't be that difficult, seeing as we have the source code.
To be honest, the Admins have better things to do then spy on members. But we could/do have access to certain info, and will do whatever is necessary to protect the site, and its values. We have lots of scripts that do lots of analysis to help us with protecting, improving and monitoring the site and the server.
Remember, this is no different to any other service in that respect. Your emails are already stored for 6months (soon to be 2yrs), IMs are monitored, as are phone records. In fact OOF info is probably much less monitored than any commercial system, as only admins (and authorities with a warrant) have the access.
Locked.