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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Jimbob on 10 April 2009, 18:54:59
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Looks like my MV6 is coming to the end :'(
Gearbox needs work - may or may not be repairable.
But the killer is.....
My coolant leak is back, car in a damp patch again.
Been underneath, and my best guess is it's the old core plug thats been held in by radweld for 2 years.
Debating options at the mo, but dont know which way to go at the moment :-/
Tis a shame, apart from a little rust (and the above issues) its running really well.
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Get new coreplugs
How much is a S/H AR35 and thrustwasher kit
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Looks like my MV6 is coming to the end :'(
Gearbox needs work - may or may not be repairable.
But the killer is.....
My coolant leak is back, car in a damp patch again.
Been underneath, and my best guess is it's the old core plug thats been held in by radweld for 2 years.
Debating options at the mo, but dont know which way to go at the moment :-/
Tis a shame, apart from a little rust (and the above issues) its running really well.
well worth keeping it on the road . it must be cheaper to repair than replace :y
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Its a 98 with 130K on the clock
not sure it is thrust washer to be honest.
Yes I could put a 2nd hand box on
strip down and do head gaskets and coreplugs
Lot of expense, and lots of help needed, that lot is beyond me (although I do surprise myself at how far I have come mechanically) and more than the car is worth.
Rust is starting to set in, but the rest is sound.
Thinking of our options at the mo.
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Saw the title, and that brought back memories of Allenm's old car (now killed by MDYM) ;D
Core plug in the head, or in block? I think must be in head, if its round the back.
Replacement head, but that calls in the question on if its worth it ultimately. I'm glad of the work we all did to my MV6 last May - it probably wasn't the best thing to do financially, but I'm still glad we did
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Saw the title, and that brought back memories of Allenm's old car (now killed by MDYM) ;D
Core plug in the head, or in block? I think must be in head, if its round the back.
Replacement head, but that calls in the question on if its worth it ultimately. I'm glad of the work we all did to my MV6 last May - it probably wasn't the best thing to do financially, but I'm still glad we did
Lol, this thread was named in memory of that one.
took a team a long time to rebuild yours, and its prob a better can than mine.
Core plug somewhere near the dis pack iirc
(changed ljays dis pack, leads and plugs today, who would have thought I could have done that a year or 2 ago! )
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Saw the title, and that brought back memories of Allenm's old car (now killed by MDYM) ;D
Core plug in the head, or in block? I think must be in head, if its round the back.
Replacement head, but that calls in the question on if its worth it ultimately. I'm glad of the work we all did to my MV6 last May - it probably wasn't the best thing to do financially, but I'm still glad we did
Lol, this thread was named in memory of that one.
took a team a long time to rebuild yours, and its prob a better can than mine.
Core plug somewhere near the dis pack iirc
(changed ljays dis pack, leads and plugs today, who would have thought I could have done that a year or 2 ago! )
My car is mechanically pretty good to be honest, but the rust is starting :'(, showing the signs of now having the tlc and use it needed during my tractor period...
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If its any consolation Jimbob, I have to do Mrs TB's HG again :'( :'( :'(
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If its any consolation Jimbob, I have to do Mrs TB's HG again :'( :'( :'(
Well it is a rover ;D
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If its any consolation Jimbob, I have to do Mrs TB's HG again :'( :'( :'(
Well it is a rover ;D
on normal cars its mpg on rovers its miles per hg ;D ;D ;D
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Looks like my MV6 is coming to the end :'(
Gearbox needs work - may or may not be repairable.
But the killer is.....
My coolant leak is back, car in a damp patch again.
Been underneath, and my best guess is it's the old core plug thats been held in by radweld for 2 years.
Debating options at the mo, but dont know which way to go at the moment :-/
Tis a shame, apart from a little rust (and the above issues) its running really well.
:o Condolences Jimbob and Ljay. :'(
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That title sent a shiver down my spine!
Bad luck! I still miss my mig!
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i think the question is really, what is it worth to you?
At the end of the day a lot of Omegas on here are barely worth 4 figures, but they are a good drive, even 4 pots ;)
You could buy something newer, but for anything half decent thats going to involve a LOT more cash, than just fixing your current drive.
I would personally say fix it, you will always get problems with cars.
My 2.2's HG has been luckly, father tunnies one blew at 98k (dealer servicing) mines on 117k now, and i am just counting the days before it will go. I will fix it when the time comes, my yearly changes of Vx red is extending its life i hope! But £150 odd for the HG is a far better option than a £3/5k new car :y
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i think the question is really, what is it worth to you?
At the end of the day a lot of Omegas on here are barely worth 4 figures, but they are a good drive, even 4 pots ;)
You could buy something newer, but for anything half decent thats going to involve a LOT more cash, than just fixing your current drive.
I would personally say fix it, you will always get problems with cars.
My 2.2's HG has been luckly, father tunnies one blew at 98k (dealer servicing) mines on 117k now, and i am just counting the days before it will go. I will fix it when the time comes, my yearly changes of Vx red is extending its life i hope! But £150 odd for the HG is a far better option than a £3/5k new car :y
Whats the matter with you tunnie......my 2.2 had done 150k and still on the same head gasket :y
Jimbob - You could always chuck another bottle of radweld in it....to cure the water leak ::) ......tho doesnt fix the g/b prob.
Radweld on Halfrauds Trade card is £1.10 reduced from £4.99......i know, i bought enough of the stuff for my 2.2 ;D ::)
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Ah but yours did in such a short period of time, age is against mine. I am still hoping for some good use out of it yet :)
Fix it Jimbob, you know you want to, if you need gadget hands for gearbox change, you know who to PM. (any excuse to get the bike out ::))
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Remember Facelifts are dropping in price too!
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i think the question is really, what is it worth to you?
At the end of the day a lot of Omegas on here are barely worth 4 figures, but they are a good drive, even 4 pots ;)
You could buy something newer, but for anything half decent thats going to involve a LOT more cash, than just fixing your current drive.
I would personally say fix it, you will always get problems with cars.
My 2.2's HG has been luckly, father tunnies one blew at 98k (dealer servicing) mines on 117k now, and i am just counting the days before it will go. I will fix it when the time comes, my yearly changes of Vx red is extending its life i hope! But £150 odd for the HG is a far better option than a £3/5k new car :y
Whats the matter with you tunnie......my 2.2 had done 150k and still on the same head gasket :y
Jimbob - You could always chuck another bottle of radweld in it....to cure the water leak ::) ......tho doesnt fix the g/b prob.
Radweld on Halfrauds Trade card is £1.10 reduced from £4.99......i know, i bought enough of the stuff for my 2.2 ;D ::)
Thats how i'll try and keep it going :y
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Ah but yours did in such a short period of time, age is against mine. I am still hoping for some good use out of it yet :)
Fix it Jimbob, you know you want to, if you need gadget hands for gearbox change, you know who to PM. (any excuse to get the bike out ::))
Cheers mate
If I go that way I'll be in touch :y
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and althought its a 2.5 i have fresh Omega meat about to get butchered up here so if theres anything required .... you know the score :y
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i think the question is really, what is it worth to you?
At the end of the day a lot of Omegas on here are barely worth 4 figures, but they are a good drive, even 4 pots ;)
You could buy something newer, but for anything half decent thats going to involve a LOT more cash, than just fixing your current drive.
I would personally say fix it, you will always get problems with cars.
My 2.2's HG has been luckly, father tunnies one blew at 98k (dealer servicing) mines on 117k now, and i am just counting the days before it will go. I will fix it when the time comes, my yearly changes of Vx red is extending its life i hope! But £150 odd for the HG is a far better option than a £3/5k new car :y
Whats the matter with you tunnie......my 2.2 had done 150k and still on the same head gasket :y
Jimbob - You could always chuck another bottle of radweld in it....to cure the water leak ::) ......tho doesnt fix the g/b prob.
Radweld on Halfrauds Trade card is £1.10 reduced from £4.99......i know, i bought enough of the stuff for my 2.2 ;D ::)
Thats how i'll try and keep it going :y
Remember the correct mix tho.......50/50
50% radweld/ 50% coolant .......or should that be 50% water/ 50% antifreeze..... :-/ dunno ;D ;D
My issue was the rad.....kept doing an impression of a sieve every month.....and as it days where numbered i wasnt going to change it......i probably chucked in about 6 bottles of radweld......never caused overheating probs....kept it going until it was too old :y
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Cheers Markie :y
This place sure reminds you who your friends are!
Cheered me up no end :D
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Jimbob, the core plug is quite easy with the head in situ, I did it a few months ago on a breaker. Turn away now Mr DTM ;D. I removed the dis pack then undid the L shaped stand the dis pack stands on which allows access to the core plugs. I then cleaned the core plug hole and pushed the core plug in as far as I could with my hand then refitted the L shaped dis pack stand. I then found a nut that would fit inside the core plug and used the dis pack stand to lever the core plug into place. It worked a treat :)
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how much is a box and motor? Will it lift in and out together? With manifolds?....no?
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Jimbob, the core plug is quite easy with the head in situ, I did it a few months ago on a breaker. Turn away now Mr DTM ;D. I removed the dis pack then undid the L shaped stand the dis pack stands on which allows access to the core plugs. I then cleaned the core plug hole and pushed the core plug in as far as I could with my hand then refitted the L shaped dis pack stand. I then found a nut that would fit inside the core plug and used the dis pack stand to lever the core plug into place. It worked a treat :)
Were's the how too pete...... ;D ;D ;D
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Jimbob, the core plug is quite easy with the head in situ, I did it a few months ago on a breaker. Turn away now Mr DTM ;D. I removed the dis pack then undid the L shaped stand the dis pack stands on which allows access to the core plugs. I then cleaned the core plug hole and pushed the core plug in as far as I could with my hand then refitted the L shaped dis pack stand. I then found a nut that would fit inside the core plug and used the dis pack stand to lever the core plug into place. It worked a treat :)
Interesting!
Having just done a dis pack, I have no idea how on earth you managed that!
out of interest, What would loopy enterprises charge to supply & fit a new (ie out a breaker) gearbox and do your core plug magic?
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A Bottle of radweld and a 10 mile drive later.....and not a drop, yet
fingers crossed!
anyone know how long radweld works for once added?
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A Bottle of radweld and a 10 mile drive later.....and not a drop, yet
fingers crossed!
anyone know how long radweld works for once added?
judging by your previous experience, about 2 years ;D
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Well, still loosing a very small amount of coolant.
An idea.....is there coreplug access with gearbox removed?
I have had 2 offers of gearboxes
£90 (with 115K on it) to the door near enough
and £50 (with 130K on it) to collect one. not too far away though.
So with petrol included, only about £20 in it.
Had quotes of £180 and £150 to change the box, the cheaper one being the option i'd take here as I can be involved, which I want.
even so, its £250 - £300 for a box change (fluids as well etc)
Nice to see the car up on a tractor powered lift today ;D
(had never been altered from 3 phase to 1, so he uses his tractors hydraylics to lift it ;D )
Decisions, Decisions, Decisions
£300 to fix the gearbox, still leaving me with the coolant issue :-/
which could be heads off to fix.
even so £600 tops would leave me with an otherwise known good car.
I could go out spend £1000 odd on another car with god knows what needing doing.
Could somone who has done a gearbox change quickly outline the steps involved please, dont know much about them.
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never done one on v6 but principal the same. With V6, exhaust downpipes have to come off.
Get car nice and high (ramp ideal, else mega axle stands).
Strip engine enough to easily get to crank pulley
Remove exhaust downpipes.
Box in N
Undo the 6 nuts/bolts that hold prop shaft to gearbox output shaft
Remove rubber cover on bellhousing that exposes the bolts that hold TC to driveplate
Rotate engine via crank pulley so you can see a bolt through hole above. Repeat, there are 6 to remove.
Remove the bracket at rear of box
Disconnect the gear linkage
remove the 3 leccy connectors to box/selector switch (one at back of box, may have to wait until box slightly lowered)
Support box
undo all the bolts holding the bellhousing to engine
pull box backwards, then lower
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never done one on v6 but principal the same. With V6, exhaust downpipes have to come off.
Get car nice and high (ramp ideal, else mega axle stands).
Strip engine enough to easily get to crank pulley
Remove exhaust downpipes.
Box in N
Undo the 6 nuts/bolts that hold prop shaft to gearbox output shaft
Remove rubber cover on bellhousing that exposes the bolts that hold TC to driveplate
Rotate engine via crank pulley so you can see a bolt through hole above. Repeat, there are 6 to remove.
Remove the bracket at rear of box
Disconnect the gear linkage
remove the 3 leccy connectors to box/selector switch (one at back of box, may have to wait until box slightly lowered)
Support box
undo all the bolts holding the bellhousing to engine
pull box backwards, then lower
as in strip down as if cambelt change?
or is there a shortcut as you are underneath?
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You only need to remvoe the engine under tray on the V6.....then front pipes off, prop shaft off, disconnect oil feds and loop back the rubber hoses.
Other than taht its teh same as Tb says.
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Dropped mine out the other weekend to replace front seal. As Marks DTM Calib says remove undertray (4 self tappers) to get to crank pulley. Than as TB says.
Remember its a heavy old box - you need two people ideally - we dropped mine down using a trolley jack - and it went back up the same way.
All done in about 5 - 6 hours.
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You only need to remvoe the engine under tray on the V6.....then front pipes off, prop shaft off, disconnect oil feds and loop back the rubber hoses.
Other than taht its teh same as Tb says.
So, Elliot Ness was assisting? :o
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Dropped mine out the other weekend to replace front seal. As Marks DTM Calib says remove undertray (4 self tappers) to get to crank pulley. Than as TB says.
Remember its a heavy old box - you need two people ideally - we dropped mine down using a trolley jack - and it went back up the same way.
All done in about 5 - 6 hours.
Have a bloke going to do it with some assistance,
we have a 4 post propper (tractor powered) lift.
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Dropped mine out the other weekend to replace front seal. As Marks DTM Calib says remove undertray (4 self tappers) to get to crank pulley. Than as TB says.
Remember its a heavy old box - you need two people ideally - we dropped mine down using a trolley jack - and it went back up the same way.
All done in about 5 - 6 hours.
Have a bloke going to do it with some assistance,
we have a 4 post propper (tractor powered) lift.
You lucky chap - piece of p*ss then. Expect you to do it in a couple of hours !! :y
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You only need to remvoe the engine under tray on the V6.....then front pipes off, prop shaft off, disconnect oil feds and loop back the rubber hoses.
Other than taht its teh same as Tb says.
Opps, good point, well presented :-[
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A Bottle of radweld and a 10 mile drive later.....and not a drop, yet
fingers crossed!
anyone know how long radweld works for once added?
I was chucking in a bottle about once a month :-[ ;)
However i dont know if it was the same leak or new leaks, but it was the same side of the rad it kept leaking from.