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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Martin_1962 on 23 April 2009, 10:05:44
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I have some questions about Pork.
Seems silly but I am trying to work out something.
I like pork but hate ham and bacon.
What do they do to ham & bacon to make it inedible (to me)?
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I have some questions about Pork.
Seems silly but I am trying to work out something.
I like pork but hate ham and bacon.
What do they do to ham & bacon to make it inedible (to me)?
As far as I am aware the crucial difference is it is cured. This is part of a process that changes the form of the meat from straightforward pork to the bacon and ham most of us like. :D :D ;) ;)
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...... the meat from straightforward pork to the bacon ..... most of us like. :D :D ;) ;)
mmmm! bacon butties! :y :y :y :y :y
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It's cured as allready mentioned.
Had the nicest Bacon butty from a shop yesterday, am off for annother one today. yummy :P :P
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
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It's cured as allready mentioned.
Had the nicest Bacon butty from a shop yesterday, am off for annother one today. yummy :P :P
very high fat content .. brakes Skruntie ;D
ps: drink grape juice or wine for protection.. :y
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
No good old british corner shop...???
:) :y
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
;D no problem , more healthy Lizzie :y
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing. :y
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Hmm well I don't like salty food, and I don't like fat, so how do ham and bacon differ from each other?
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
No good old british corner shop...???
:) :y
Could be Bacon and Nan bread I surpose. :-X
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing. :y
Wot!! :o :o :o
You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!! :o :o :o :o :o
You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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Hmm well I don't like salty food, and I don't like fat, so how do ham and bacon differ from each other?
Ham is pre-cooked, you can eat straight away...
Pork and bacon uncooked, bacon also sometimes smoked...
:y
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing. :y
Wot!! :o :o :o
You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!! :o :o :o :o :o
You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
£1.50 ???, its gone up then. >:(
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Ham is boiled isn't it?
So ham is basically boiled unsmoked bacon, which is basically salt cured pork?
Sticking with the uncured stuff!
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Ham is boiled isn't it?
So ham is basically boiled unsmoked bacon, which is basically salt cured pork?
Sticking with the uncured stuff!
Try soaking the bacon in cold water over night before you cook it, gets rid of the salt.
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing. :y
Wot!! :o :o :o
You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!! :o :o :o :o :o
You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
£1.50 ???, its gone up then. >:(
Yes, that's what I thought I heard on the news two months back, although I have not used the crossing since then! ::) ::)
£1 was bad enough in my opinion; we payed for those crossings how many times over?? And we pay road tax, petrol duty, VAT,...... don't get me started though, I'm about to rant!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Just double checked, and it is £1-50 from 15th November last year! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
EDIT: £1 FREE though for out of hours!! ::) ::) ::) ;)
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Making me really hungry now, got bacon but no bread. :'(
Well I have the bread but no bacon!! :'( :'(
How about we meet up at the Dartford Crossing with pan and camping stove at the ready Zirk?! :D :D :D ;)
Cool, nice one, but Im not paying the Crossing. :y
Wot!! :o :o :o
You don't think my lovely bacon butties are worth the cost of the toll!! :o :o :o :o :o
You don't know what you are going to miss for the sake of £1.50! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
£1.50 ???, its gone up then. >:(
Yes, that's what I thought I heard on the news two months back, although I have not used the crossing since then! ::) ::)
£1 was bad enough in my opinion; we payed for those crossings how many times over?? And we pay road tax, petrol duty, VAT,...... don't get me started though, I'm about to rant!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
And its not even a Toll charge, its a Congestion Charge. Stupid pillicks cant even work out that they need to put the Charge Booth windows on both sides to accomadate all those left hand driving lorrys, then there wouldn't be a congestion.
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The bridge was paid for by 2003, so since then the Gov have pocketed at least £300 million given that over 50 million cars use it a year. Absolutely disgusting. >:(
I like bacon though.
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I tend to use the Woolwich Ferry quiet a lot now as Dartfords nearly allways choc a bloc. Its Free and seems to run ok. Plus there's one of those Oriental Wholesale Warehouse's on the north side that have a Freshly cooked Noodles Bar inside for about £4.
Not sure if the sell Bacon though....Bacon, Spicy Beef Noodles, Hmm.. really really hungry now. :y
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value" >:(
My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham. :o
Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value" >:(
My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham. :o
Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.
do you use Rhug farm shop?
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value" >:(
My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham. :o
Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.
do you use Rhug farm shop?
I find the Rhug Estate meat to be superb, but a little at the luxury end of the price bracket for 'Deb`s towers'.
I meat-shop mostly at T.Roberts (situated at the Corwen end of the High St. in Bala)
http://tjroberts.wisshost.net/home-1.aspx
A superb quality butcher and poulterer: Roberts have "Welsh-Black" beef, local lamb, corn-fed free range large-chickens, a wonderful range of 'game': pheasant/poussin/rabbit/wild boar/partridge as well as his home produced cheeses, bacon and sausages (and he sells fresh garden-veggies too!)
Roberts deliver even small quantities locally around-here for free, but there is easy parking right outside the shop, Jimbob....well worth a visit.:y
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value" >:(
My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham. :o
Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.
do you use Rhug farm shop?
I find the Rhug Estate meat to be superb, but a little at the luxury end of the price bracket for 'Deb`s towers'.
I meat-shop mostly at T.Roberts (situated at the Corwen end of the High St. in Bala)
http://tjroberts.wisshost.net/home-1.aspx
A superb quality butcher and poulterer: Roberts have "Welsh-Black" beef, local lamb, corn-fed free range large-chickens, a wonderful range of 'game': pheasant/poussin/rabbit/wild boar/partridge as well as his home produced cheeses, bacon and sausages (and he sells fresh garden-veggies too!)
Roberts deliver even small quantities locally around-here for free, but there is easy parking right outside the shop, Jimbob....well worth a visit.:y
I am surprised you don't have your own animals slaughtered Debs, and sell the really fresh meat and other things in your own farm shop.
Up early this year I knew a farmer who did this, selling other local farmers produce as well, in his own on site shop. Really excellent quality!! 8-) 8-) 8-)
He decided to sell up though for any easier life. :'( :'(
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mmmm welsh black
/drool
we like a farm shop at Trueddyn
http://www.swansfarmshop.co.uk/
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
Isn't uncooked ham called gammon ! ;) ;)
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Reading this is making me hungry.
mmmmmmmmm ......... Bacon Butties.........
Mind you, has anyone seen Halal Pork?????
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Ham and bacon are "cured" pork products using salts including sodium nitrate, which is also used in pork pies to keep the meat pink as it's cooked. Cured meats have the advantage that the pathegenic bacteria contained in them are rendered more easily destroyed during the cooking process because of the salts present. On the down side sodium nitrate is carsinogenic so is restricted in it's use
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I came home yesterday with 4 rolled belly pork stuffed slices.....not sure how to cook em, oven or grill :-/
Reduced from £3.97 to £1 as it was the sell by date......ive thrown them in the freezer for now :y
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Reading this is making me hungry.
mmmmmmmmm ......... Bacon Butties.........
Mind you, has anyone seen Halal Pork?????
Pork, bacon, and ham are neither Halal nor Kosher...
They are not permitted foods in these religions (Muslim/Judaism)...
:) :y
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I have some questions about Pork.
Seems silly but I am trying to work out something.
I like pork but hate ham and bacon.
What do they do to ham & bacon to make it inedible (to me)?
As far as I am aware the crucial difference is it is cured. This is part of a process that changes the form of the meat from straightforward pork to the bacon and ham most of us like. :D :D ;) ;)
100 % correct Lizzie
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Pigs are the strangest animals.
First they're killed...and then they're cured !! ::)
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Pigs are the strangest animals.
First they're killed...and then they're cured !! ::)
;D ;D ;D :y
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I feel offended at this thread since i am a vegetarian ;)
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Bacon is salted and left to stand before either being dried or smoked before being sliced.
Ham is the same although it tends to be a different cut and often arrives cooked (although uncooked ham joints are available).
Its salted to preserve it.
....and hyper saturated salt-solution is injected into the bacon (and ham) to both bulk it up and add 'cheap' weight; the so called "added producer value" >:(
My local butcher doesn`t use any salt in his delicious, home cured, cold-smoked bacon and hams and amazingly they cost only the same as supermarket 'medium' ranges of pork/bacon/ham. :o
Please support your skilled local butcher/poulterer; if we don`t they`ll soon be be gone and the retail 'giants' will be free to run a provisioning kleptocracy.
As debs says support your local specialist store- the only real advantage a supermarket has is convenience. Price is an illusion
My local off-license has free-range eggs that are far superior to anything sainsburys or waitrose offer and for only a few pence more for 6.
an example of supermarket "pricing" - local waitrose used to sell fresh chickens for roasting for £x, but sold the same chicken pre-roasted for about a pound cheaper!