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Title: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 21:55:44
Recently bought a new PC - with an ASRock K10N78 motherboard, amd quad core 9950 processor, 8gb ddr800 ram.

Installed vista64 myself, had probs with ethernet drivers but managed to sort by new downloads.

Ran CPU-Z and said the ram only running at 200MHz (ddr400) so tried to adjust bios which was set to auto but then wouldn't boot :(

had to reset bios with the on board jumpers, but now when it boots it gets to POST and says "MAC address are invalid in both CMOS and Flash" and i have to press F1 to resume :-/

Ethernet doesn't work now and says Nvidia nforce networking cotroller "this device cannt start (code 10)" ???

any help please :'(

how can it loose the MAC addy and how can i get it back
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 22:21:16
You need to reset your bios or even worse flash it or another cause could be the problem  :).

All may not be lost but I need much more detail  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 22:30:00
Just looked at your mother board on line, I need to know what ram you got, how you installed it etc. Asrock is typically tempermental. Also what version vista 64 are you running and where did you get it if it isn't an original.

Let me know and I can help you, hopefully, been building and programming for 17 years  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:34:19
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You need to reset your bios of even worse flash it or another cause could be the problem  :).

All may not be lost but I need much more detail  :y


Have reset bios with the "clear cmos jumper" and even tried taking bios battery out for 5mins.

have downloaded latest bios from asrock and flashed it

still din't work?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:36:40
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Recently bought a new PC - with an ASRock K10N78 motherboard, amd quad core 9950 processor, 8gb ddr800 ram.

Installed vista64 myself, had probs with ethernet drivers but managed to sort by new downloads.

Ran CPU-Z and said the ram only running at 200MHz (ddr400) so tried to adjust bios which was set to auto but then wouldn't boot :(

had to reset bios with the on board jumpers, but now when it boots it gets to POST and says "MAC address are invalid in both CMOS and Flash" and i have to press F1 to resume :-/

Ethernet doesn't work now and says Nvidia nforce networking cotroller "this device cannt start (code 10)" ???

any help please :'(

how can it loose the MAC addy and how can i get it back
Its right...

200mhz is right for ddr400 - DDR is double data rate (ie, dual pumped, using rising and falling edge of clock), so 2 x 200Mhz = 400.  But the memory clock is still 200Mhz.

The mobo though is shite, like all ASRock stuff, and I won't have an AMD cpu in the house either ;D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 22:37:18
I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:38:52
And nvidia ethernet chips are notoriously unreliable, with the chipset itself frequently crashing, esp with timing issues.  Pulling the power out of PC for 30s normally cures - note reboot is not enough to reset the ethernet chipset, not is shutting down (as chipset still on due to WoL stuff) - it needs power pulled from back for 30s!
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:39:29
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Just looked at your mother board on line, I need to know what ram you got, how you installed it etc. Asrock is typically tempermental. Also what version vista 64 are you running and where did you get it if it isn't an original.

Let me know and I can help you, hopefully, been building and programming for 17 years  :y


Ram is Samsung 2GB DDR800 FG3/3N 256x4 G0909  K4T16044QQ-ZCF7 - 4 sticks all the same.

Was already installed as bought the pc ready built in case from Pallicomp.

Vista is 64bit Ultimate and don't ask me where i got it from but everything else seems to work fine bar nvidida ethernet :-/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:39:33
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:44:16
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Recently bought a new PC - with an ASRock K10N78 motherboard, amd quad core 9950 processor, 8gb ddr800 ram.

Installed vista64 myself, had probs with ethernet drivers but managed to sort by new downloads.

Ran CPU-Z and said the ram only running at 200MHz (ddr400) so tried to adjust bios which was set to auto but then wouldn't boot :(

had to reset bios with the on board jumpers, but now when it boots it gets to POST and says "MAC address are invalid in both CMOS and Flash" and i have to press F1 to resume :-/

Ethernet doesn't work now and says Nvidia nforce networking cotroller "this device cannt start (code 10)" ???

any help please :'(

how can it loose the MAC addy and how can i get it back
Its right...

200mhz is right for ddr400 - DDR is double data rate (ie, dual pumped, using rising and falling edge of clock), so 2 x 200Mhz = 400.  But the memory clock is still 200Mhz.

The mobo though is shite, like all ASRock stuff, and I won't have an AMD cpu in the house either ;D


forgot to say it's got rather great blue led's all down the front of the case as well thanks Jamie ;)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:45:28
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Recently bought a new PC - with an ASRock K10N78 motherboard, amd quad core 9950 processor, 8gb ddr800 ram.

Installed vista64 myself, had probs with ethernet drivers but managed to sort by new downloads.

Ran CPU-Z and said the ram only running at 200MHz (ddr400) so tried to adjust bios which was set to auto but then wouldn't boot :(

had to reset bios with the on board jumpers, but now when it boots it gets to POST and says "MAC address are invalid in both CMOS and Flash" and i have to press F1 to resume :-/

Ethernet doesn't work now and says Nvidia nforce networking cotroller "this device cannt start (code 10)" ???

any help please :'(

how can it loose the MAC addy and how can i get it back
Its right...

200mhz is right for ddr400 - DDR is double data rate (ie, dual pumped, using rising and falling edge of clock), so 2 x 200Mhz = 400.  But the memory clock is still 200Mhz.

The mobo though is shite, like all ASRock stuff, and I won't have an AMD cpu in the house either ;D


forgot to say it's got rather great blue led's all down the front of the case as well thanks Jamie ;)
Ah, thats the fault then - you're too rather gay  >:(

 :P  :P  :P :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:46:19
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


no i didn't it's ddr800 ie 400mhz running twice per cycle to give 800mhz, the bios setting was auto and i changed it to ddr800 not ddr1066
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:47:25
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Recently bought a new PC - with an ASRock K10N78 motherboard, amd quad core 9950 processor, 8gb ddr800 ram.

Installed vista64 myself, had probs with ethernet drivers but managed to sort by new downloads.

Ran CPU-Z and said the ram only running at 200MHz (ddr400) so tried to adjust bios which was set to auto but then wouldn't boot :(

had to reset bios with the on board jumpers, but now when it boots it gets to POST and says "MAC address are invalid in both CMOS and Flash" and i have to press F1 to resume :-/

Ethernet doesn't work now and says Nvidia nforce networking cotroller "this device cannt start (code 10)" ???

any help please :'(

how can it loose the MAC addy and how can i get it back
Its right...

200mhz is right for ddr400 - DDR is double data rate (ie, dual pumped, using rising and falling edge of clock), so 2 x 200Mhz = 400.  But the memory clock is still 200Mhz.

The mobo though is shite, like all ASRock stuff, and I won't have an AMD cpu in the house either ;D


forgot to say it's got rather great blue led's all down the front of the case as well thanks Jamie ;)
Ah, thats the fault then - you're too rather gay  >:(

 :P  :P  :P :y

luckily you can turn them off ::)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 22:47:25
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


Oh now I understand  :y
I was a little confused before

I agree the ram is fine and overclocking should be ventured slowly step by step and with only the best components, not ASRock  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:49:07
i'm not trying to overclock (yet) just get it running as intended >:(
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:49:16
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


no i didn't it's ddr800 ie 400mhz running twice per cycle to give 800mhz, the bios setting was auto and i changed it to ddr800 not ddr1066
ddr800? Don't you mean ddr2-800? if so, quad pumped off a 200Mhz clock
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:53:00
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


no i didn't it's ddr800 ie 400mhz running twice per cycle to give 800mhz, the bios setting was auto and i changed it to ddr800 not ddr1066
ddr800? Don't you mean ddr2-800? if so, quad pumped off a 200Mhz clock
Before the purist come out stating the inaccuracy above, its actually dual pumped, but ran at double speed internally, so same effect as quad pumped. But technically not the same. If that makes sense?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 22:55:41
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


no i didn't it's ddr800 ie 400mhz running twice per cycle to give 800mhz, the bios setting was auto and i changed it to ddr800 not ddr1066
ddr800? Don't you mean ddr2-800? if so, quad pumped off a 200Mhz clock

that's why you do pc's and i draw houses :-[

so is this right then :

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 4 per processor
Number of threads 4 per processor
Name AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition
Code Name Agena
Specification AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor
Package Socket AM2+ (940)
Family/Model/Stepping F.2.3
Extended Family/Model 10.2
Brand ID 11
Core Stepping DR-B3
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2600.0 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 13.0 x 200.0 MHz
HT Link speed 2000.0 MHz
Instruction sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64
L1 Data cache (per processor) 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache (per processor) 2 MBytes, 32-way set associative, 64-byte line size
 
Chipset & Memory  
 
Northbridge NVIDIA GeForce 8200 rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA ID075C rev. A2
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 8192 MBytes
Memory Frequency 200.0 MHz (1:1)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 6.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 9 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 12 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
 
System  
 
System Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Name To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System S/N To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Mainboard Vendor ASRock
Mainboard Model K10N78
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version P1.30
BIOS Date 02/05/2009
 
Memory SPD  
 
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 3 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 4 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
 
Software  
 
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)  
DirectX Version 10.0
 

Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:55:49
I still haven't explained myself that well - sorry, its the Leffe ::)

DDR2-800 has a 200Mhz clock. That is correct.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 22:57:07
Maybe still able to help then I have lots of experience with ASRock from previous poorer days, not that I'm rich now  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 07 April 2009, 22:58:05
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I need to know what ram you have cos you obviously didn't have this much ram when you ran previous operating system. Are they pairs, what make are they and what are the individual specs of the modules.
the ram is fine - he just tried to massively overclock it, with the expected result!


no i didn't it's ddr800 ie 400mhz running twice per cycle to give 800mhz, the bios setting was auto and i changed it to ddr800 not ddr1066
ddr800? Don't you mean ddr2-800? if so, quad pumped off a 200Mhz clock

that's why you do pc's and i draw houses :-[

so is this right then :

Number of processors 1
Number of cores 4 per processor
Number of threads 4 per processor
Name AMD Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition
Code Name Agena
Specification AMD Phenom(tm) 9950 Quad-Core Processor
Package Socket AM2+ (940)
Family/Model/Stepping F.2.3
Extended Family/Model 10.2
Brand ID 11
Core Stepping DR-B3
Technology 65 nm
Core Speed 2600.0 MHz
Multiplier x Bus speed 13.0 x 200.0 MHz
HT Link speed 2000.0 MHz
Instruction sets MMX (+), 3DNow! (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4A, x86-64
L1 Data cache (per processor) 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L1 Instruction cache (per processor) 4 x 64 KBytes, 2-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L2 cache (per processor) 4 x 512 KBytes, 16-way set associative, 64-byte line size
L3 cache (per processor) 2 MBytes, 32-way set associative, 64-byte line size
 
Chipset & Memory  
 
Northbridge NVIDIA GeForce 8200 rev. A2
Southbridge NVIDIA ID075C rev. A2
Memory Type DDR2
Memory Size 8192 MBytes
Memory Frequency 200.0 MHz (1:1)
CAS# Latency (tCL) 6.0 clocks
RAS# to CAS# (tRCD) 3 clocks
RAS# Precharge (tRP) 3 clocks
Cycle Time (tRAS) 9 clocks
Bank Cycle Time (tRC) 12 clocks
Command Rate (CR) 2T
 
System  
 
System Manufacturer To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System Name To Be Filled By O.E.M.
System S/N To Be Filled By O.E.M.
Mainboard Vendor ASRock
Mainboard Model K10N78
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version P1.30
BIOS Date 02/05/2009
 
Memory SPD  
 
Module 1 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 2 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 3 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
Module 4 DDR2, PC2-6400 (400 MHz), 2048 MBytes, unknown brand
 
Software  
 
Windows Version Microsoft Windows Vista (6.0) Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 (Build 6001)  
DirectX Version 10.0
 

That looks right depending on what clock its using for memory - due to internal and external sync clocks running at double/half the speed of each other.

BTW, hooky copies of Vista will come to bite you on the arse - buy it if you want to use it. Ultimate is generally not the best version costwise, unless you need to be in an AD and have media center.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 23:01:18
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Maybe still able to help then I have lots of experience with ASRock from previous poorer days, not that I'm rich now  :y

well i'm poor hence the cheap mb system so any advice greatly appreciated becasue i've spent a week tryin to sort this >:(
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 07 April 2009, 23:11:08
Try this then. the boy won't like it probably  :-X :-X


You need to download this utility from

http://www.ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90.

And then go to DOS mode, n type command like,
D:\...........\afudos /mxxxxxxxxxxxx

There is /m is the command number 12 times x is your mac ID.

You can find your MAC somewhere on your Motherboard
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: MindlessJD on 07 April 2009, 23:16:55
You wouldn't have these problems with a Mac!  ;)

 :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 23:17:43
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Try this then. the boy won't like it probably  :-X :-X


You need to download this utility from

http://www.ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90.

And then go to DOS mode, n type command like,
D:\...........\afudos /mxxxxxxxxxxxx

There is /m is the command number 12 times x is your mac ID.

You can find your MAC somewhere on your Motherboard

i've found several numbers all over the board but not sure if MAC addy i know it has 12 digits but none quite look right :-/

93M0X1055011

093R021-00424

80-MXG 9N0-A1A03   W11

001966BA9121

sorry for sounding useless but i am
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 07 April 2009, 23:18:10
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You wouldn't have these problems with a Mac!  ;)

 :y


I'll do the jokes thanks :D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: MindlessJD on 07 April 2009, 23:20:18
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You wouldn't have these problems with a Mac!  ;)

 :y


I'll do the jokes thanks :D

Who was joking?

 :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 00:10:24
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Try this then. the boy won't like it probably  :-X :-X


You need to download this utility from

http://www.ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90.

And then go to DOS mode, n type command like,
D:\...........\afudos /mxxxxxxxxxxxx

There is /m is the command number 12 times x is your mac ID.

You can find your MAC somewhere on your Motherboard

i've found several numbers all over the board but not sure if MAC addy i know it has 12 digits but none quite look right :-/

93M0X1055011

093R021-00424

80-MXG 9N0-A1A03   W11

001966BA9121

sorry for sounding useless but i am


used the afuwin prog to flash new mac to bios (001966BA9121 was the only one that it would let me enter)

doesn't seem to have worked :-/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 00:15:11
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Try this then. the boy won't like it probably  :-X :-X


You need to download this utility from

http://www.ami.com/support/downloadagreement.cfm?DLFile=support/downloads/amiflash.zip&InpDrvID=90.

And then go to DOS mode, n type command like,
D:\...........\afudos /mxxxxxxxxxxxx

There is /m is the command number 12 times x is your mac ID.

You can find your MAC somewhere on your Motherboard

i've found several numbers all over the board but not sure if MAC addy i know it has 12 digits but none quite look right :-/

93M0X1055011

093R021-00424

80-MXG 9N0-A1A03   W11

001966BA9121

sorry for sounding useless but i am

go into windows

find command prompt
type
ipconfig/all {press enter}
the physical address is your ip

Be back on line tomorrow if you still lost  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 00:33:45
Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Home-PC
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG311v3 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-C4-B0-69
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::add6:2e07:ee19:4e62%16(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 April 2009 00:32:00
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 09 April 2009 00:32:00
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:d5c7:a2d6:4fd:3d80:3f57:febc(Preferred)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4fd:3d80:3f57:febc%11(Preferred)
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 00:35:47
netgear wireless lan is how i'm online now but want to put that card back in old rig and hardwire this one with rj45 but internal lan not listed is it?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 00:36:59
off to bed now else i'm going to opps it up even more :-[

try and sort it tomorrow hopefuly :-/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 07:18:14
just a quicky before I go to work, you definately need to do as I said before. your mac id must be printed somewhere, motherboard, box, booklet. I will look into it further this evening when I have finished at the workhouse :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: Chris_H on 08 April 2009, 10:44:32
The Physical Address is the MAC address.

The last one looks suspicious and I wouldn't want it on a network.  Do you know where the last two come from? Can you remove/disable the device that owns it/them.

MAC addresses can't just be dreamed-up.  They are supposed to be unique across the known universe so manufacturers get ranges assigned to them and you need to have the right one for the device if indeed you can re-write it.

Having said that, if you are just using the machine on a local network you should get away with it (although your BIOS says otherwise).

HTH

Edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_address says MAC addresses are more complicated in this day and age.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 10:56:16
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Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Home-PC
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG311v3 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-C4-B0-69
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::add6:2e07:ee19:4e62%16(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 April 2009 00:32:00
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 09 April 2009 00:32:00
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:d5c7:a2d6:4fd:3d80:3f57:febc(Preferred)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4fd:3d80:3f57:febc%11(Preferred)
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

That is an invalid MAC address and needs programming correctly.

Remember that you will ahev multiple MAC's on your board as you have multiple physical network adpators.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: bertiecbx550 on 08 April 2009, 14:44:23
Lost me at i`ve bought a new pc..... :-? :-?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 14:56:43
IT support at Pallicomp have told me where the MAC should be on the motherboard and im fairly sure from memory that it's "001966BA9121"

but as Mark said this is only the MAC for the mb and all the individual adaptors will have their own MAC,

just hope i can restore the main one and the rest sort themselves out??? :-/

sure i've tried that number though :-?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: Kevin Wood on 08 April 2009, 15:05:58
"Tunnel adapter " implies a virtual network interface created by a VPN or other software device to me. In that case it doesn't have a hardware MAC address because no physical hardware interface is associated with it. Perhaps it's not necessarily a problem that the MAC addres is zero.

It looks to me like the problem is that the physical Ethernet interface hasn't been picked up at all. All I can see above is a wireless LAN.

Kevin
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 08 April 2009, 15:08:33
Depending on how the VPN is created, a MAC address will still be required.

As said, all physicla devices will need a MAC address.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 15:53:02
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IT support at Pallicomp have told me where the MAC should be on the motherboard and im fairly sure from memory that it's "001966BA9121"

but as Mark said this is only the MAC for the mb and all the individual adaptors will have their own MAC,

just hope i can restore the main one and the rest sort themselves out??? :-/

sure i've tried that number though :-?

Now you have the mac code just follow what I posted earlier and it should it out :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 19:24:15
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Windows IP Configuration

   Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Home-PC
   Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
   Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
   IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
   DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NETGEAR WG311v3 54Mbps Wireless PCI Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-14-6C-C4-B0-69
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::add6:2e07:ee19:4e62%16(Preferred)
   IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.67(Preferred)
   Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
   Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : 08 April 2009 00:32:00
   Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : 09 April 2009 00:32:00
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.254
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:

   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
   IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:0:d5c7:a2d6:4fd:3d80:3f57:febc(Preferred)
   Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::4fd:3d80:3f57:febc%11(Preferred)
   Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
   NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled

Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:

   Media State . . . . . . . . . . . : Media disconnected
   Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . : home
   Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
   Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
   DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
   Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes

That is an invalid MAC address and needs programming correctly.

Remember that you will ahev multiple MAC's on your board as you have multiple physical network adpators.
Tunnel virtual adapter will have a MAC that is meaningless.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 19:25:29
Looks like BIOS is disabling this adapter - have you removed the power from the PC (by pulling the plug for 30s). This is a very, very, very, very common problem on those appalling Nvidia NIC chipsets.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 20:39:01
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Looks like BIOS is disabling this adapter - have you removed the power from the PC (by pulling the plug for 30s). This is a very, very, very, very common problem on those appalling Nvidia NIC chipsets.


yes been unplugged for an hour and removed bios battery for 10minutes too to try an extra reset, but no good :-/

the mac update with amibios didn't work either :-/

getting pissed off with this now :'(
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 April 2009, 21:08:16
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Looks like BIOS is disabling this adapter - have you removed the power from the PC (by pulling the plug for 30s). This is a very, very, very, very common problem on those appalling Nvidia NIC chipsets.


yes been unplugged for an hour and removed bios battery for 10minutes too to try an extra reset, but no good :-/

the mac update with amibios didn't work either :-/

getting pissed off with this now :'(

did you tried installing a seperate ethernet adapter ?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 21:13:15
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Looks like BIOS is disabling this adapter - have you removed the power from the PC (by pulling the plug for 30s). This is a very, very, very, very common problem on those appalling Nvidia NIC chipsets.


yes been unplugged for an hour and removed bios battery for 10minutes too to try an extra reset, but no good :-/

the mac update with amibios didn't work either :-/

getting pissed off with this now :'(

did you tried installing a seperate ethernet adapter ?[/quote]

not got an ethernet card (that's why i'm online via my wireless card)

might try to re-instal vista in a min.

clutching at straws now :-X
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:16:26
at what point in boot up does message come on ?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 April 2009, 21:17:16
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Looks like BIOS is disabling this adapter - have you removed the power from the PC (by pulling the plug for 30s). This is a very, very, very, very common problem on those appalling Nvidia NIC chipsets.


yes been unplugged for an hour and removed bios battery for 10minutes too to try an extra reset, but no good :-/

the mac update with amibios didn't work either :-/

getting pissed off with this now :'(

did you tried installing a seperate ethernet adapter ?[/quote]

not got an ethernet card (that's why i'm online via my wireless card)

might try to re-instal vista in a min.

clutching at straws now :-X

just an idea, if the board dont want to work with its own ethernet (seems like) disable totally (if possible) and use another one.. :-/

I'm sure someone in the neighbours/friends have one on an old unused machine..



Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:18:28
Don't know if this is of any use

http://www-dcn.fnal.gov/DCG-Docs/mac/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 April 2009, 21:19:52
or request a replacement mobo from where you buy it..
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 21:20:52
i can carry on using this wireless card, but it's a brand new machine and i'm really annoyed that it's not perfect.

plus not sure i can disable onboard device, and currently have to press F1 to resume every time it boots, whic kinda spoils the 4second quick boot promised >:(
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:21:00
I am sure I have a spare ethernet card kicking around somewhere
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 April 2009, 21:23:08
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I am sure I have a spare ethernet card kicking around somewhere

 :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 08 April 2009, 21:24:19
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i can carry on using this wireless card, but it's a brand new machine and i'm really annoyed that it's not perfect.

plus not sure i can disable onboard device, and currently have to press F1 to resume every time it boots, whic kinda spoils the 4second quick boot promised >:(

I think you cant continue to use a new mobo in that style it will really annoy you everyday.. :(
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:25:57
Try BIOS reset, if you haven't already, then get board replaced.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 21:26:24
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i can carry on using this wireless card, but it's a brand new machine and i'm really annoyed that it's not perfect.

plus not sure i can disable onboard device, and currently have to press F1 to resume every time it boots, whic kinda spoils the 4second quick boot promised >:(

I think you cant continue to use a new mobo in that style it will really annoy you everyday.. :(


it does :( >:( :( :'(

to return the motherboard i think will mean returning the whole system (pre-built) and that's going to cost me in postage :-/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:27:42
Is it possible for a warranty replacement or refund ???
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:28:07
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i can carry on using this wireless card, but it's a brand new machine and i'm really annoyed that it's not perfect.

plus not sure i can disable onboard device, and currently have to press F1 to resume every time it boots, whic kinda spoils the 4second quick boot promised >:(

I think you cant continue to use a new mobo in that style it will really annoy you everyday.. :(


it does :( >:( :( :'(

to return the motherboard i think will mean returning the whole system (pre-built) and that's going to cost me in postage :-/
Its a failure - under distance selling regs, I believe the retailer has to cop the cost of return postage if its failed. CAB or TS can confirm.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:32:49
Maybe get a refund however irrating and buy and alternative which is more stable. I find some of the ASUS stuff reliable and well priced, it is still not the best out there but I find it reliable and stable  :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:34:25
I won't have ASUS shite in the house either ;D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:36:17
Money is an object here  :P :P and it's better than ASRock  :P
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:39:59
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Money is an object here  :P :P and it's better than ASRock  :P
At the cheap end, I'd probably go gigashite...

...but the system is all imbalanced - 'big' numbers on cpu and memory, but the most important part (mobo) is shite
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:43:28
I disagree, I had no end of problems with gigasupershit, at least asus is well supported and stable  :-?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:44:51
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I disagree, I had no end of problems with gigasupershit, at least asus is well supported and stable  :-?
Had about 30% early failure rate on asus junk...
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:49:30
gigashite is worse and their customer support is rubbish
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 21:54:04
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gigashite is worse and their customer support is rubbish
Only built around 20 gigashit based systems, so can't make an accurate judgement.  Loads more ASUS failures, so thats why I'd never use them.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 21:56:14
I have found as long as you don't buy the cheapest ASUS it works fine, and if it fails they replace without question which is important in the world of budget shite
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:00:59
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I have found as long as you don't buy the cheapest ASUS it works fine, and if it fails they replace without question which is important in the world of budget shite
You've been lucky - I've always been referred back to retailer, and if it was intermittent fault, got nowhere as expected.

Irrelevent now, as I don't build so much for others - no money in it now, so only close friends and family now.  For businesses, I now just ram in Dell/HP machines
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 22:04:30
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I have found as long as you don't buy the cheapest ASUS it works fine, and if it fails they replace without question which is important in the world of budget shite
You've been lucky - I've always been referred back to retailer, and if it was intermittent fault, got nowhere as expected.

Irrelevent now, as I don't build so much for others - no money in it now, so only close friends and family now.  For businesses, I now just ram in Dell/HP machines


my hero :D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:04:36
DELL uurrr aaarrgg yuk
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:07:10
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DELL uurrr aaarrgg yuk
Dell business machines are excellent for office use  :-/

what's wrong with them?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:08:31
Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun.

Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:10:49
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 22:12:49
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:13:46
I agree on the office desk that you need good standard repliable machine.

Dell business is good and reliable

Dell  domestic not so good

Example motherboard from friends troublesome domestic Dell

Foxconn G33M
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:13:57
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:15:57
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:20:29
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I agree on the office desk that you need good standard repliable machine.

DELL domestic not so good

Example motherboard from friends troublesome domestic Dell

Foxconn G33M
Foxconn, being the largest mobo manufacturer in the world, really do have some reliable stuff generally.

In Dell's case, obviously Optiplex is often going to be the most suitable, but Dimension and Inspiron have their place in the office as well.  An Dell's (Business) support is pretty bloody good (though you have to go through the motions of their script sheet)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:21:57
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 22:24:34
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D[/quote]
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?


i think he might have been joking TB  ::) :P
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 08 April 2009, 22:26:18
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D[/quote]
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?


i think he might have been joking TB  ::) :P
I've made good money fixing f-ups that wannabe IT specialists have deployed without thinking about it, so have seen it done many times ;)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:28:44
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D[/quote]
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?


i think he might have been joking TB  ::) :P
I've made good money fixing f-ups that wannabe IT specialists have deployed without thinking about it, so have seen it done many times ;)


Sorry enjoy a good stir  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sure you will get used to my sick humour  ;D ;D (I hope  :-X :-[ :o)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 22:34:19
anyway stop bickering and fix my pc ;D

what we saying then, the ethernet controller on the motherboard is knackered and i need to send it back?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:35:35
Correct I'm afraid  :-[
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 08 April 2009, 22:39:30
with possibility of getting full refund and better board from else where?

do Sony make motherboards Jamie?
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: GG on 08 April 2009, 22:43:53
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D[/quote]
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?


i think he might have been joking TB  ::) :P
I've made good money fixing f-ups that wannabe IT specialists have deployed without thinking about it, so have seen it done many times ;)


Sorry enjoy a good stir  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sure you will get used to my sick humour  ;D ;D (I hope  :-X :-[ :o)

think TB annoyed with me   :-[ :-[ ( He really helpful nice guy too)  :-? :-[
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2009, 18:43:04
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anyway stop bickering and fix my pc ;D

what we saying then, the ethernet controller on the motherboard is knackered and i need to send it back?
yup.
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 09 April 2009, 18:44:00
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/


ASRock K10N78 beast :D
Err, no, you wouldn't ;D


Why not, good for the economy lots of work for out of work IT specialists  :D :D[/quote]
Simply becuase you would never put a DIY type machine in the office  :-?


i think he might have been joking TB  ::) :P
I've made good money fixing f-ups that wannabe IT specialists have deployed without thinking about it, so have seen it done many times ;)


Sorry enjoy a good stir  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Sure you will get used to my sick humour  ;D ;D (I hope  :-X :-[ :o)

think TB annoyed with me   :-[ :-[ ( He really helpful nice guy too)  :-? :-[
nah, beddy-byes was calling....
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 09 April 2009, 18:47:07
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Very good reliable standard machines, but no fun
What would you put on an office desk?  :-/

ASRock K10N78 beast :D

 ;D ;D

clever idea..no work after  ;D :y
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: HerefordElite on 27 April 2009, 23:27:39
Update:

Emailed ASRock tech support and they sent me prog for re-writing mac address in dos.

and it only bloody works

well happy :)
Title: Re: IT help - MAC address Invalid
Post by: TheBoy on 27 April 2009, 23:36:24
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Update:

Emailed ASRock tech support and they sent me prog for re-writing mac address in dos.

and it only bloody works

well happy :)
LOL, so thats a common issue then that those tosspots are trying to keep under wraps ;)