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Title: Elite Progress
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 May 2009, 23:06:30
Old oil cooler removed, block totally cleaned, and brand new oil cooler kit fitted and sealed.

Heads re-furbed and head work complete

Knackered exhaust manifold thread sorted in one hole

Manifolds fitted, with Elring multi layer steel gaskets

Heads re-fitted to car

Drivers side fully torqued down - passenger currently on stage one

Rear coolant pipe fitted

Few other odds and sods.

Starting to look like an engine now - tomorrow involves:

Followers and camshafts (3.0) fitted - and cam sprockets

Coolant bridge

Cambelt kit

Cam covers

Plugs, leads, etx...

Blah....   should hopefully have it running tomorrow evening all being well  :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: SP_3.2 on 03 May 2009, 23:13:22
Sounds as if is going well :y :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: smoothomega on 03 May 2009, 23:41:37
I do miss her James  :'( Give me first dibs if you sell her again  :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 03 May 2009, 23:51:07
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I do miss her James  :'( Give me first dibs if you sell her again  :y

Aye - you'll want her even more with a totally refurbed top end and an extra 20bhp... ;D

By the way, if you thought it was quick before - the multirams were not working - it will absolutely fly when they are operational too ;D :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: tmx on 04 May 2009, 00:45:00
james would doing this porting to a 3.0 give it an extra 20bhp? also dont suppose you know if the 3.0s inlet divider can be ported like the 2.5s?
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 May 2009, 21:35:21
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james would doing this porting to a 3.0 give it an extra 20bhp? also dont suppose you know if the 3.0s inlet divider can be ported like the 2.5s?

Hiya Tom - only expecting a couple of BHP from porting - the main increase comes from fitting 3.0 cams :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: tmx on 04 May 2009, 21:36:40
not worth doing to a 3litre then?
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 May 2009, 21:42:19
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not worth doing to a 3litre then?

May be worth putting some 3.2 manifolds on it - that could be interesting!
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2009, 21:47:56
So you have used the 2.6 gasket for the 2.5 then?

Not sure I would be to comfortable with that given the 1.6mm larger bore on the 2.6
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: tunnie on 04 May 2009, 21:50:19
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So you have used the 2.6 gasket for the 2.5 then?

Not sure I would be to comfortable with that given the 1.6mm larger bore on the 2.6

Would that not leave a very small gap between the block and the heads?  :-/

The fire rings would not meet the cylinders? They would be slightly inset  :-/
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: tmx on 04 May 2009, 21:53:31
3.2 Inlets eh hmmmm ill keep my eye out for a 3.2 been broken up now thanks
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2009, 21:54:31
Yep you would get a small indent around the tops of the bores.

Might be ok but could also create a hot spot and cause issues. It might also result in mega stresses as when the fuel exhaust mix lights, any in this recess would try to force the head and block apart.

Will be interesting to see the results!  :y

Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: HGV mechanic on 04 May 2009, 21:54:57
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james would doing this porting to a 3.0 give it an extra 20bhp? also dont suppose you know if the 3.0s inlet divider can be ported like the 2.5s?

Hiya Tom - only expecting a couple of BHP from porting - the main increase comes from fitting 3.0 cams :y

what did you ues to do the porting? im considering doing a complete rebuild to and bottom
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 04 May 2009, 21:55:16
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3.2 Inlets eh hmmmm ill keep my eye out for a 3.2 been broken up now thanks
Pretty sure that the 3.2 and 3.0 inlets are the same, the 3.2 exhaust manifolds are better though
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: tmx on 04 May 2009, 22:00:52
Is it simple to change the V6s manifolds the haynes book put me right off it started mentioning about removing the engine for the left bank is this nonsense? i could get hold of 3.2 manifolds very easily there is some in a scrapper engineless but with manifolds / precats in the boot

is there anything else i can do also to tune my v6 up i know all the vectra b v6 tuning tips but non of them work with the omega :( bored out throttle bodies made no noticible difference on the mig
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: HerefordElite on 04 May 2009, 22:43:26
have a look at these pics Tom :

http://www.omegaowners.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1236287115/30

 :y
Title: Re: Elite Progress
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 04 May 2009, 23:32:20
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So you have used the 2.6 gasket for the 2.5 then?

Not sure I would be to comfortable with that given the 1.6mm larger bore on the 2.6

Mark - not sure where you get this from mate  ::) - as far as I am aware, I have used the 2.5 X25XE gaskets, made by Elring - for the head gaskets - and multi layer steel gaskets for the exhaust manifolds...

Presume that is correct?  ::)