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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Marks DTM Calib on 06 May 2009, 17:56:34
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.....when was the last time a Victor Tanker flew?
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October 93 wern't it?
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This was taken at the weekend.....
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3336/3500819032_28854b862a.jpg)
and shortly after, this happened!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/3508008834_098fcbcde0.jpg)
I bet he got a bollocking for that.
So answer is....May 2009! :D
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He must've got in trouble for that ;D
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He managed to get it back down again
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3507200233_481389a40d.jpg)
Good job Bruntingthorpe has a 2 mile long runway!
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did he leave it a bit late, or not supposed to take off?
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did he leave it a bit late, or not supposed to take off?
Fast Taxi only.....there are no airworthy Victors left
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oops - something still works then..
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did he leave it a bit late, or not supposed to take off?
Fast Taxi only.....there are no airworthy Victors left
Looks like there is now ;D ;D ;D
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I suspect he required some clean underwear after!
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I read with interest the vulcan book on the runway bombing runs during the falklands. the amount of victors needed, and the fact one gave the vulcan so much fuel, it did not leave itself with enough to get back to assension island
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I read with interest the vulcan book on the runway bombing runs during the falklands. the amount of victors needed, and the fact one gave the vulcan so much fuel, it did not leave itself with enough to get back to assension island
Yep....Tuxford (in the victor) got a flying cross for that!
They did get back to Ascension though as another tanker was scrambled to intercept!
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Are the photo angles misleading or was it close to going seriously brown on the landing?
One wing looks to be dropping after rotate...
And..any video?
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Are the photo angles misleading or was it close to going seriously brown on the landing?
One wing looks to be dropping after rotate...
And..any video?
Not found a video yet but yes, its a bit close.
Although teh runway drops away over the crest.
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yeah I remember reading it, they radioed ahead. damn good navigation for the full tanker to get to his location do a U turn, and for tux to come bag up behind. best bit was them ordering fuel from the americans :) the amount and they wanted it weekly!
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Vulcan 607, a damn good read. Might have another go.
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Are the photo angles misleading or was it close to going seriously brown on the landing?
One wing looks to be dropping after rotate...
And..any video?
Not found a video yet but yes, its a bit close.
Although teh runway drops away over the crest.
Yup, adrenaline IS brown and does flow down trouser legs... ;D
I was thinking more the angle of view along the fuselage, taking account of the photographers position. In the last view, the aircraft is distinctly pointing off centre on the runway. Bet the driver really had to slew it round some before getting to ground again! :D
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It looks as if it is pointing way stbd of the centre line, normal procedure would be to shovel on more coal and go around for another go BUT if he wasnt supposed to leave the ground in the first place then he had to make the best of it.
Does this sort of thing threaten fast taxis on cold war jets days or is it seen as purely accidental?
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I suspect its seen as pure accidental.
I wonder if he hit a bit of a head wind as he approached the brow of the runway (probably coming slightly from the left).
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Looks like he hit a bit of headwind which knocked his right arm forward onto the throttles.......
Brilliant pics but if he dont get a bollocking for that.........!!!?!?!?
:y
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Vulcan 607, a damn good read. Might have another go.
One of my all time best reads, i think Richard Bransons Autobiography just pips it.
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It was an accident, Guv, really! ;)
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/05/05/326067/pictures-victor-bomber-accidentally-becomes-airborne-during-taxi.html
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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?
I was surprised.
Mike
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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?
I was surprised.
Mike
A long time ago, possibly Korea.
The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands
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Was it refueling XH558?
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He managed to get it back down again
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3547/3507200233_481389a40d.jpg)
Good job Bruntingthorpe has a 2 mile long runway!
Even you might just beat me on that one ;D ;D ;D
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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?
I was surprised.
Mike
A long time ago, possibly Korea.
The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands
All the way back to 22nd May 1947: two Egyptian Spitfires attacking Ramat David airfield in Palestine were shot down by an RAF Spitfire.
Falklands was of course Royal Navy :y Although some claim there where RAF pilots in the Falklands and are claiming kills. But somehow I doubt it.
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I thought the last time the RAF shot down an enemy plain was in the First Gulf war 1991 or am I wrong there?, :-/ I remember as a kid watching the Vulcan land at the old sunderland airport ( the nissan plant now ) it took 3 tryes and still ended up in the farmers field, Bloody good flying from the pilot mind :y :y
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Talking of planes, when was the last time the RAF actually shot down another plane in a combat situation ?
I was surprised.
Mike
A long time ago, possibly Korea.
The FAA of course know and remind them as often as possible. The last time a British pilot shot down another aircraft was during the Falklands
All the way back to 22nd May 1947: two Egyptian Spitfires attacking Ramat David airfield in Palestine were shot down by an RAF Spitfire.
Falklands was of course Royal Navy :y Although some claim there where RAF pilots in the Falklands and are claiming kills. But somehow I doubt it.
A Spitfire - longer ago than I thought.
All since have been FAA with Sea Furys and Sea Harriers, two of my favourite aeroplanes
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Hmm. Interesting incident. He had quite a bit of flap on for someone who never intended to leave the ground, although there might well be a good reason for that. As said, a gust or emerging from a sheltered area obviously gave him flying speed. His fast taxi was too fast for the conditions.
He had rotated to quite a nose-high attitude in the second frame though! I wonder what margin he had over stall speed? If that wasn't deliberate he was seriously caught napping. ;D
I suspect there was probably a crosswind which accounted for the fact that he was crabbing down the runway once airborne and with no room to correct it he probably touched down with quite a bit of yaw, causing the aircraft to roll over to the left as the landing gear contacted the ground.
By far the safest thing to do would probably have been to open the taps and do a circuit, airworthy or not, rather then risk running out of runway before getting rid of the energy. Would have made the ensuing paperwork a bit awkward though!
It would be very interesting to see a video.
Kevin
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Falklands was of course Royal Navy :y Although some claim there where RAF pilots in the Falklands and are claiming kills. But somehow I doubt it.[/quote]
No it was both Navy and Airforce - They had to use both services otherwise they'd have taken about 5 planes (the fleet air arm was just about still going in 1982)
IIRC
No 1(Fighter) Squadron RAF - they did the ground attack stuff
Pilots from 4 SQN flew to reinforce but got there when it was over
Joined the navy Sqns - who did the air combat role
Sea harriers shot down 22 Aircraft and 6 were lost during the operation.
The fleet Air Arm is no more and all Harriers are now part of the Harrier strike Force (or something)
As has alreay been pointed out last confirmed kills would have been 1st Gulf or the following Balkans war
Matthew
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Balkans - FAA again
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Apparantly the Video will start to appear on You Tube today.
Its questionable how much fuel he had on board plus, would you want to truely fly a plane thats not been off the ground for 20 years!
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Apparantly the Video will start to appear on You Tube today.
Its questionable how much fuel he had on board plus, would you want to truely fly a plane thats not been off the ground for 20 years!
They did not keep them in service for long after the war then.
I can't help but feel that War was 'created' to help Thatcher win the Election. She went from 8% popularity to a landslide victory.
We kept feeding them suggestions we would do nothing if they did invade.
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Makes no odds how you look at it, its british soil with british residents.....it was taken with force so we responded.
They were in service for 10 years after the Falklands....and were very time expired when retired
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Makes no odds how you look at it, its british soil with british residents.....it was taken with force so we responded.
They were in service for 10 years after the Falklands....and were very time expired when retired
I think some of them were reaching their limit during the war?