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Title: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 February 2007, 22:08:11
Well, I went to look at an Omega in Bridgwater tonight, and fair play, I've not seen as straight an Omega for a long time. I drove it over about 10 miles, gave it a good test, and it does seem solid and mechanically great.

Here is the spec:

Omega 2.0 16v CD Automatic (unfortunately needs to be a 2.0 for the LPG kit)
ICE COLD air conditioning
Electric rear blind
Electric front windows
Sunroof
ABS,
All the usual toys
Brand new tyres within the last 1000 miles
FULL 12 months MOT

Everything I could think to test worked. Inside, looks like it's never been sat in. It has the original Omega mats which are as good as new. It seems a shame to take it all out and put the leather in!

Fired it up, it's been stood for a bit. About three seconds of tappet noise, and then it purred like a cat. No problem, due an oil and filter change.

It drove great. Gearchanges were smooth with no slipping that I could tell. I insisted on testing the sport mode, and driving it at 70 to make sure it stayed in top gear.

Also tested the ABS, which scared the guy!!!

Although no comparison to the V6, I wasn't upset with performance, it went along very swiftly and smoothly and I'm sure with a full service by moi it will go even better.

Jobs to do:

As soon as I get it home, the first job before going anywhere with it, is timing belt kit, aux belt and water pump change. I'm not being caught out by that again.

Full service, plugs, oil/filter, breather system and throttle body clean. etc etc..

Fit some toys from the CDX, such as rear electric windows, heated seat switches, hopefully MID if possible, cd changer and head unit... and so on.

Fit leather seats and doorcards.

Faults with the car?

Well, a £495 car wouldn't be without a couple! A thorough inspection has shown that the foglights are not Omega ones, hence they look terrible. So the V6 will donate some proper ones to go across.

On the two front doors, the trim is coming away from the front of the doors a little bit.

The steering wheel is not quite central when going straight, but I'm sure that can easily be sorted.

I heard a bit of a noise from the PAS pump, like a ticking. At first was worried about cam belt area, but it was clearly coming from the PAS pump. I think I confirmed this, because I shook the PAS pulley, and it has too much play when I pull it back and forth. No sweat, I'll just put the PAS pump off the lemon on there, when I do the aux belt/cam belt etc.

Otherwise, perfect. Can't fault it for the cash. I also opted for 6 months tax, so it's totally legal to drive home!

Walllet is £600 lighter, but never mind!

I really need to crack on as an urgency and get the LPG kit off the lemon, so we can put it on this nice 2.0.

When are you free Martin, and how shall we play it?  ;D
Guess we can PM the specifics if needsbe.

It would be great to keep as much info as possible about the conversion on the forum though, I think the guys will enjoy reading about it!

Here is my new baby for anyone that missed it.. I'm picking up tomorrow night :)


(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/miggy1.jpg)

(http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k205/jamesv6cdx/miggy2.jpg)
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Markie on 07 February 2007, 22:13:07
Should be an intresting project and a good read  :y
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 07 February 2007, 22:29:14
Looks a real nice car and I love the colour too...

The LPG your fitting don't Omega's have any problems.... As I was toying when we had our first Range Rover to get it fitted but was warned by several people on a Range Rover Forum and the Mot station that fitting LPG on an older engine has a tendency to blow the head gaskets....so didn't bother!
Wondered if it was just Rangey's or not....
Daz
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 22:29:16
Looks clean - I got £640 for mine with little tax little MOT but clean and 142 000 miles

It will have electric rear windows

They go fine, just not V6 standard.

So LPG kit

This will take a few hours to remove - I will look up some notes, but DO NOT LOSE ANYTHING!

Check all the pipe work make notes and photos as you go.

I think I will be needed when reinstallation comes.

I think we ought to have a special thread for this.
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Bo Bo on 07 February 2007, 22:30:52
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Should be an intresting project and a good read  :y
Agreed, looking forward to it....
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 22:32:19
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Looks a real nice car and I love the colour too...

The LPG your fitting don't Omega's have any problems.... As I was toying when we had our first Range Rover to get it fitted but was warned by several people on a Range Rover Forum and the Mot station that fitting LPG on an older engine has a tendency to blow the head gaskets....so didn't bother!
Wondered if it was just Rangey's or not....
Daz


They seem to be fine

Mine is a similar setup to what James (with some help) will be doing, ie moving across a system except in my case it was in a cardboard box!

I think we will mount the filler like mine - on a tow bar. I will be chatting with a localish installer as well.
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 February 2007, 22:35:45
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Looks a real nice car and I love the colour too...

The LPG your fitting don't Omega's have any problems.... As I was toying when we had our first Range Rover to get it fitted but was warned by several people on a Range Rover Forum and the Mot station that fitting LPG on an older engine has a tendency to blow the head gaskets....so didn't bother!
Wondered if it was just Rangey's or not....
Daz


They seem to be fine

Mine is a similar setup to what James (with some help) will be doing, ie moving across a system except in my case it was in a cardboard box!

I think we will mount the filler like mine - on a tow bar. I will be chatting with a localish installer as well.


I'm really looking forward to this, really excited, and eternally grateful for your offer of helping me install it Martin. I'll make sure you benefit from helping me  :y

I agree about the special thread, maybe we could ask the admins if we could (even temporarily) have a sticky, and make sure it's kept 100% focused on the topic of this LPG conversion project!
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 22:37:34
An OMVL Dream N Install here!

http://forums.mg-rover.org/showthread.php?t=132776&page=12
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 February 2007, 22:47:44
Looks like he's made a tidy job...

Looking at his pics though, it seems my kit on the lemon is complete? What could we need, apart from silly bits and bobs like pipes and olives?
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: tunnie on 07 February 2007, 22:49:54
i think the 2.0's and 2.2's go just fine, not as good as the 6 pots... but still sit at 80 all day long. Just lack grunt.

They keep up with most, just won't beat anything.

Should be a good project James good luck  :y
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 22:51:38
Read your emails James and sign up to that group!

Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 February 2007, 22:52:54
Must go to bed now, working at 5..

Looking forward to talking about the details tomorrow ;D
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 22:59:28
OK

Olives

More Olives

I have at least one 6mm joiner - I could not manage the entire run in one bit.

6mm pipe plenty - at least 6m

8mm pipe 2m should do

Olives

Sunny weather

Wire, 10 to 15 amp at least 4 different colours, enough to go full length of car in each colour the route will be engine compartment, pollen filter, passenger side inside cill, under rear seat pop out into boot for 3 one will continue to back as a spare.

If you want to do towbar filler you need a new filler. (Else drill the side panel) That said my location is great for Calor Worcester (short hose reverse in), and BP Okehampton doesn't matter which side which is handy with the van on!

Not sure if we need any helpers or not though.
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 07 February 2007, 23:05:14
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OK

Olives

More Olives

I have at least one 6mm joiner - I could not manage the entire run in one bit.

6mm pipe plenty - at least 6m

8mm pipe 2m should do

Olives

Sunny weather

Wire, 10 to 15 amp at least 4 different colours, enough to go full length of car in each colour the route will be engine compartment, pollen filter, passenger side inside cill, under rear seat pop out into boot for 3 one will continue to back as a spare.

If you want to do towbar filler you need a new filler. (Else drill the side panel) That said my location is great for Calor Worcester (short hose reverse in), and BP Okehampton doesn't matter which side which is handy with the van on!

Not sure if we need any helpers or not though.

I have an apprentice electrician mate who is great with wiring, I will bring him. he's mechanically very able to. 3 of us should manage?

How much will this extra filler cost, and where to get it? eBay?
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 07 February 2007, 23:26:45
I'll look tomorrow

Looks like I can project manage then! ;D

Not so good at all day car repairs sessions these days - used to do silly hours playing with vehicles when nearer your age, now I do as necessary.

Three people should be able to do a lot in a short time.

Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 February 2007, 01:19:50
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I'll look tomorrow

Looks like I can project manage then! ;D

Not so good at all day car repairs sessions these days - used to do silly hours playing with vehicles when nearer your age, now I do as necessary.

Three people should be able to do a lot in a short time.


I'm not expecting miracles mate, and I would never expect you to kill yourself (you're right, I sometimes spend 17 hours on a car!!)..

My friend Markie is my age, he is a quiet lad, but is an electrical genuis and very good with his hands, he also knows about Omega's practically inside out, thanks to working on so many heaps with me ;)

I would rather do it leisurely over a couple of weekends or more, whatever it takes, than work silly hours. I know even from my experience, when I try and do too much, I don't do such a good job.

Again, I really appreciate this, and I'm excited about getting involved!








Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: The Barge Captain on 08 February 2007, 13:15:27
Looks and sounds like a nice motor mate.  Good luck with the conversion.  :y
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 February 2007, 13:34:33
Thats fine

I think Tunnie would like to help as well.
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: nixoro on 08 February 2007, 13:44:51
Good Luck with this one james, as from the sounds of it good Omega's have been few and far for you.

Hope this one does you proud, once fixed :y
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 08 February 2007, 14:34:11
Notes for James mate Markie

LPG systems insist on soldering rather than crimping, and also heat shrinking.

So has Markie got the soldering and heat shrinking kit?
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 February 2007, 16:44:12
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Notes for James mate Markie

LPG systems insist on soldering rather than crimping, and also heat shrinking.

So has Markie got the soldering and heat shrinking kit?

I'm sure he has!

If not, no doubt we can get one...
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 February 2007, 16:45:56
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Thats fine

I think Tunnie would like to help as well.

Tunnie...

Would be fantastic if you could get involved and lend a hand also!! More the merrier.

As soon as the kit's removed fully and Martin and I have set an initial date, I'll let you know!!
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: tunnie on 08 February 2007, 16:58:41
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Thats fine

I think Tunnie would like to help as well.

Tunnie...

Would be fantastic if you could get involved and lend a hand also!! More the merrier.

As soon as the kit's removed fully and Martin and I have set an initial date, I'll let you know!!

No problemo, have to be weekends, however this weekend is too soon, following one getting the seats, after that its getting busy for my uni project... but should have some spare time  :y
Title: Re: Got a new Meega, bring on the LPG conversion!!
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 08 February 2007, 17:02:59
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Thats fine

I think Tunnie would like to help as well.

Tunnie...

Would be fantastic if you could get involved and lend a hand also!! More the merrier.

As soon as the kit's removed fully and Martin and I have set an initial date, I'll let you know!!

No problemo, have to be weekends, however this weekend is too soon, following one getting the seats, after that its getting busy for my uni project... but should have some spare time  :y

The seats my have to go on hold.

Also need to think about weather...