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Title: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Nickbat on 19 May 2009, 22:32:53
There's something that troubles me deeply about this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1183796/Town-halls-hire-citizen-snoopers-young-SEVEN-spy-neighbours-report-wrongs.html

 >:( >:(
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Omega man 2 on 19 May 2009, 22:36:09
The Nazi's and Stalin had a similar system and they didn't work out too well.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: tmx on 19 May 2009, 22:37:32
my village has some nosey snoopers in it or "Grasses" as theyre known round here

the fact the police keep popping round for coffee and biscuits is hardly inconspicous!
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: albitz on 19 May 2009, 22:39:29
I also read this and found it disturbing,someone in Islington been reading up on Mao ? >:(
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: mantahatch on 19 May 2009, 22:43:12
Volunteers are given a list of things to do when confronted with fly-tippers, including taking photos 'without being seen'

Umm, taking photo's without being seen eh. Is there not a law against this, if I start taking covert pictures of my neighbours etc. whilst hiding, then surely I am a peeping tom !
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: HolyCount on 19 May 2009, 22:44:22
Definitely leaves a bad taste -- apart from the Hitler Youth undertones -- it's councils trying to do their jobs on the cheap --- remember "Parkies" -- they were a pain in the rear end, but did a good job ( I can now see from an adult perspective !) -- but I guess an army of 7 year olds can do it cheaper  :(
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: tmx on 19 May 2009, 22:45:12
councils are abusing powers that are meant for terrorism protection the act is called something like RIPA

our local council Herefordshire council have been using these  laws to covertly survey benefit thieves!
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: KillerWatt on 19 May 2009, 22:45:27
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The Nazi's and Stalin had a similar system and they didn't work out too well.
Bang on the money Ron, that is EXACTLY what Hitler did.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: HolyCount on 19 May 2009, 22:46:36
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Volunteers are given a list of things to do when confronted with fly-tippers, including taking photos 'without being seen'

Umm, taking photo's without being seen eh. Is there not a law against this, if I start taking covert pictures of my neighbours etc. whilst hiding, then surely I am a peeping tom !

Technically, no -- as oft quoted on Road Wars -- if the camera man is in a public place he can point his camera wherever he likes !!!!  As long as it'ss not close to a military establishment or he's a terror suspect taking pics of manhole covers !!!!
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: KillerWatt on 19 May 2009, 22:47:33
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Volunteers are given a list of things to do when confronted with fly-tippers, including taking photos 'without being seen'

Umm, taking photo's without being seen eh. Is there not a law against this, if I start taking covert pictures of my neighbours etc. whilst hiding, then surely I am a peeping tom !

Technically, no -- as oft quoted on Road Wars -- if the camera man is in a public place he can point his camera wherever he likes !!!!  As long as it'ss not close to a military establishment or he's a terror suspect taking pics of manhole covers !!!!
Or the "main" subject is not under 16.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: HolyCount on 19 May 2009, 22:48:13
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councils are abusing powers that are meant for terrorism protection the act is called something like RIPA

our local council Herefordshire council have been using these  laws to covertly survey benefit thieves!


They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: KillerWatt on 19 May 2009, 22:50:44
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They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
There are (to date) over 3,700 laws that have been introduced in the last 12 years, none of which were needed because existing legislation covered them anyway.....but they were introduced nonetheless.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: kpassmore1974 on 19 May 2009, 22:52:35
I find this completely out of order. Councils keep saying they dont have the money to repair the roads or keep parks for kids clean and open - but they have the money to give snoops hand held computers?  >:(
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: HolyCount on 19 May 2009, 22:52:52
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They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
There are (to date) over 3,700 laws that have been introduced in the last 12 years, none of which were needed because existing legislation covered them anyway.....but they were introduced nonetheless.

Very true -- an indication of the total mess our legal system is in -- which is not being helped at all by all the hot air issuing forth from Brussels !!!
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Kevin Wood on 19 May 2009, 22:55:11
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...and even families putting their rubbish out on the wrong day. ..

Words fail me. >:(

No they don't... If they employed bin men who could be bothered to walk the 15 feet up my driveway...

Kevin
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Pete Elite on 19 May 2009, 22:55:40
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my village has some nosey snoopers in it or "Grasses" as theyre known round here

the fact the police keep popping round for coffee and biscuits is hardly inconspicous!


   There's no way I'm going to do this, they are not eating all my biccys!!! ;D.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: tmx on 19 May 2009, 22:57:43
ahem the thick copper on road wars who says hes filming in a public place etc is completely wrong

if you write a letter to the chief constable of the police force that filmed you complaining about it then they will not show you in roadwars! same applies to traffic cops on the beeb

also you are perfectly within your rights to bring action against sky/bbc if you didnt give them your permission to film you
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 19 May 2009, 23:09:10
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They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
There are (to date) over 3,700 laws that have been introduced in the last 12 years, none of which were needed because existing legislation covered them anyway.....but they were introduced nonetheless.

Very true -- an indication of the total mess our legal system is in -- which is not being helped at all by all the hot air issuing forth from Brussels !!!


You've banged that one right out of the park HC :y :y
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: KillerWatt on 19 May 2009, 23:40:44
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They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
There are (to date) over 3,700 laws that have been introduced in the last 12 years, none of which were needed because existing legislation covered them anyway.....but they were introduced nonetheless.

Very true -- an indication of the total mess our legal system is in -- which is not being helped at all by all the hot air issuing forth from Brussels !!!
That of course would be the same hot air from Brussels that my grandfather used to proudly tell me he spent 6 years dodging bullets for, so that I wouldn't have to take crap from anybody else.......what a waste eh.
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 May 2009, 09:58:28
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councils are abusing powers that are meant for terrorism protection the act is called something like RIPA

our local council Herefordshire council have been using these  laws to covertly survey benefit thieves!


Actually getting scum like these - just do it!
Title: Re: Councils recruiting snoopers
Post by: Martin_1962 on 20 May 2009, 09:59:10
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They don't need anti - terrorism laws for that -- they have had the powers to do it for many years.
There are (to date) over 3,700 laws that have been introduced in the last 12 years, none of which were needed because existing legislation covered them anyway.....but they were introduced nonetheless.


That is because Nulab are control freaks