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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Entwood on 19 May 2009, 22:19:07
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[whinge mode on]
There seems to be a massive increase in the amount of "masked swearing" on the forum .. you know .. using * 0 etc to replace one letter just to avoid the profanity filter.
The question is .. why ???
The English language has more than sufficient words to express feelings adequately without insulting/being rude to everyone else on the forum.
Now some of the more vociferous will pipe up "if you don't like it don't read it" ... somewhat impossible methinks ...
Whatever happened to manners and consideration ???
[whinge mode off]
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A bit of anger management needed in 1 or 2 cases ? ;)
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I do agree :y
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I am guilty to some extent, and I apologise :-[ However I do not use the * to dodge the profanity filter --- guessing that my mild swearing wouldn't even trigger it ... usually Bl**dy --- let's try it ... bloody ... see :)
I use them purely because I do not normally swear in mixed company and it's a written way to signify that it is a word muttered under my breath.
However, point taken and I will stop that particular practice ( as long as I remember).
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I agree, seems to be more 'Anger' in some postings and seems to be less chat recently, though lots of members online..... :(
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Can we try and keep this thread on topic please, and serious, as judging by complaints the Admin team have received, this is obviously a serious issue to some
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Yep... Hands up! I'm guilty sometimes so......... Sorry all
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You have my total support on this one. Thank you for raising it :y :y
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Can we try and keep this thread on topic please, and serious, as judging by complaints the Admin team have received, this is obviously a serious issue to some
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Sorry :-[ ::) :)
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I shall now desist Entwood!
no more swearing or masking from now on perhaps an inclusion on the posting guidelines?
ill use my dictionary to come up with proper english insults not rubbishy swaer words!
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A bit of anger management needed in 1 or 2 cases ? ;)
Anger management isn't about swearing.
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Agree we should all play nice :y
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Can we try and keep this thread on topic please, and serious, as judging by complaints the Admin team have received, this is obviously a serious issue to some
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Sorry TB .. I didn't know this had been raised in any other manner. I just felt that what I have seen recently
a) Detracts from the friendly "feel" the forum should/used to have
b) Is particularly rude to female members, most of whom do NOT swear like troopers, and anyway most men don't swear in mixed company.
c) Leads to more antagonism in threads that are getting highly charged over minor matters anyway.
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If you need a swear word and cannot think of a suitable word to use, a bunch of asterisks (wildcards) should be fine, people can then use their own word in there.
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[whinge mode on]
There seems to be a massive increase in the amount of "masked swearing" on the forum .. you know .. using * 0 etc to replace one letter just to avoid the profanity filter.
The question is .. why ???
The English language has more than sufficient words to express feelings adequately without insulting/being rude to everyone else on the forum.
Now some of the more vociferous will pipe up "if you don't like it don't read it" ... somewhat impossible methinks ...
Whatever happened to manners and consideration ???
[whinge mode off]
A very reasonable observation Entwood :y :y
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.......Is particularly rude to female members, most of whom do NOT swear like troopers, and anyway most men don't swear in mixed company.......
Indeed! :-[
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It's not often I mask a swear word, when I do it's normally with regards to a problem on one (namely the gold 2.2) of my cars. I'll try and remind myself not to do it and find a more colourful replacement word :y
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
Not funny.
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
Not funny.
I thought it was ;D
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
Not funny.
I thought it was ;D
Am I surprised?
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
Not funny.
I thought it was ;D
Am I surprised?
It's only funny when you can see the irony ;)
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Hmmmmm....you're not keen on my avatar then? ;D
Not funny.
I thought it was ;D
Am I surprised?
It's only funny when you can see the irony ;)
Irony (from the Ancient Greek [ch949][ch7984][ch961][ch969][ch957][ch949][ch943][ch945] eir[ch333]neía, meaning hypocrisy, deception, or feigned ignorance).
Still not funny.
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I have noticed more swearing of late, and some of it could be fairly offensive, not to me particularly - but for others maybe. As has been mentioned an expletive is an expletive, so why not just put ***** or find another way of expressing what you need to say.
People can say bloody or crap all day long as far as I am concerned - I think people would realise which are the more offensive words being used.
A bit of anger management needed in 1 or 2 cases ? ;)
I think this is a very valid point too.
Edited for **** spelling :-[
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I do it quite a lot to be honest, but I swear a hell of a lot in real life so nothing is different.
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
How much has he paid you sy that lizzie. ;D ;D
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
A clarion call in reason, balance and good sense. I fall to your majesty Ms Zoom 8-) 8-) :y
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
How much has he paid you sy that lizzie. ;D ;D
Don't stir it Skruntie! ::) ::) Just appealing to that better side I know he really has! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
How much has he paid you sy that lizzie. ;D ;D
Don't stir it Skruntie! ::) ::) Just appealing to that better side I know he really has! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Have you been smoking Lizzie :-? ;)
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
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I agree with Entwood and all others who have commented on the unnecessary personally abusive nature in some threads with swearing or not!:y
However, as a women I appreciate I am on a male orientated forum, and in any male 'space' be it in the pub, workplace, or with friends, swearing can be used to express simple anger or emotions on the subject in hand. When say discussing dissatisfaction with a distant collective group, especially when it causes frustration, then men can often use unsavoury words to describe that group who are well away from the OOF. i.e. The Government. On that subject I have been frequently known to utter the word 'bastards', unmasked you note, and then explain why. That in my book is good anglo-saxon expressive humour, and the men around me in the past would have uttered far worse!! ::) ::)
No, what I personally do not accept is abuse personally aimed directly at other members, usually just because they do not agree with them, whilst using gratuitous language for effect! This I am offended by, and will never accept. To me that just reflects a lack of vocabulary and inteligence, coupled with ignorance of other peoples feelings. This is what should stop immediately in my book! >:( >:(
As for your avatar STMO, I recognised some time ago that your 'character' or 'image' on the oof, but no doubt quite the reverse in real life, is one of being the hard, uncaring, unemotional alpha male. The avatar is just an extension of the 'act'. But, yes although I try had not to read it and just treat it as part of the rich fabric of life on the OOF (or should that be Mars?!!), I DO find it unecessary and abusive. So STMO, I KNOW you are actually a good guy, so please how about toning it down? ::) ::) ;) ;)
How much has he paid you sy that lizzie. ;D ;D
Don't stir it Skruntie! ::) ::) Just appealing to that better side I know he really has! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Just how wrong can one person be???????? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
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At the end of the day there is a time and place for it.
In joke, tougue in cheeck of letting off stram, then I dont have a probem. ::)
Directing it at annother member, then yes I do have a problem. :-/
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
Another example, if i was in the pub, you have people using swear words every 3rd word, or every 2nd, which i don't agree with.
I swear, course i do, but there is a time and a place.
In the pub, i don't go up to a group of people asking them to stop swearing, to make the 'community' better, or the pub a better place, its their choice!
I browse the forum quite a bit and cases of swearing or masked swearing is so rare, i really don't think its an issue.
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
Another example, if i was in the pub, you have people using swear words every 3rd word, or every 2nd, which i don't agree with.
I swear, course i do, but there is a time and a place.
In the pub, i don't go up to a group of people asking them to stop swearing, to make the 'community' better, or the pub a better place, its their choice!
I browse the forum quite a bit and cases of swearing or masked swearing is so rare, i really don't think its an issue.
Indeed! :y
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
Another example, if i was in the pub, you have people using swear words every 3rd word, or every 2nd, which i don't agree with.
I swear, course i do, but there is a time and a place.
In the pub, i don't go up to a group of people asking them to stop swearing, to make the 'community' better, or the pub a better place, its their choice!
I browse the forum quite a bit and cases of swearing or masked swearing is so rare, i really don't think its an issue.
Overall Tunnie I agree with you, but when it does, and it has, it is no good for anyone, especially the Admins who have to try and dampen everything down afterwards, or even close the General Chat section!! ::) ::) ::) That is soooooooo unecessary! ;)
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ive stopped now havent swore atall today on here i think i was one of the main swearers Sorry if any offence was caused :-[
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
Another example, if i was in the pub, you have people using swear words every 3rd word, or every 2nd, which i don't agree with.
I swear, course i do, but there is a time and a place.
In the pub, i don't go up to a group of people asking them to stop swearing, to make the 'community' better, or the pub a better place, its their choice!
I browse the forum quite a bit and cases of swearing or masked swearing is so rare, i really don't think its an issue.
Indeed! :y
Yep, I'm inclined to agree with you guys.
BUT, as has already been said, I don't agree with swearing in anger directly at other members of the forum......a big no no in my book.
I'm sure a bit of mild swearing is unlikely to upset too many female members either. To be honest, some of the language I hear from girls in the pubs these days is far worse than the men!! :o
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no swearing at members isnt on its not tolerated in the work place and it may well land you with a smack in the face down the pub problably!
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some people take things here way to seriously! This is just a forum, just chill out, i don't know what all the fuss is about.
Have to agree with you there tunnie mate!
Another example, if i was in the pub, you have people using swear words every 3rd word, or every 2nd, which i don't agree with.
I swear, course i do, but there is a time and a place.
In the pub, i don't go up to a group of people asking them to stop swearing, to make the 'community' better, or the pub a better place, its their choice!
I browse the forum quite a bit and cases of swearing or masked swearing is so rare, i really don't think its an issue.
Indeed! :y
Yep, I'm inclined to agree with you guys.
BUT, as has already been said, I don't agree with swearing in anger directly at other members of the forum......a big no no in my book.
I'm sure a bit of mild swearing is unlikely to upset too many female members either. To be honest, some of the language I hear from girls in the pubs these days is far worse than the men!! :o
Yup as long as it's not driected at anyone then I don't have a problem, unless it's the government :)
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I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
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Time for bed, thread.
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I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
Yes Maria, kids can have that effect at times! ::) :D :D ;)
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Yup as long as it's not driected at anyone then I don't have a problem, unless it's the government :)
;D ;D You wouldn't be alone there LSG :y
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I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
Yes Maria, kids can have that effect at times! ::) :D :D ;)
Lol yeah they Lizzie do esp my 13 yr old and with all the behavior problems i have with her i do say others under my breath but not out loud if know what i mean ::)
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)I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
Yes Maria, kids can have that effect at times! ::) :D :D ;)
Lol yeah they Lizzie do esp my 13 yr old and with all the behavior problems i have with her i do say others under my breath but not out loud if know what i mean ::)
I dont swear at my lad. I beat him soundly instead.
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)I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
Yes Maria, kids can have that effect at times! ::) :D :D ;)
Lol yeah they Lizzie do esp my 13 yr old and with all the behavior problems i have with her i do say others under my breath but not out loud if know what i mean ::)
I dont swear at my lad. I beat him soundly instead.
I don't agree with smacking neather and we are not aloud to smack or hit our kids any more so i just send hannah to her room and take things away from her but it dont work at times ::)
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)I don't get offended with swear words if they are not the c word as i cant stand it but as some males do swear then its fine if it not the really bad ones, I will say bloody my self and that word i will tolerate and the f word don't like too but we are only human after all i do agree not to wear in front of children but i do say bloody at times.
Yes Maria, kids can have that effect at times! ::) :D :D ;)
Lol yeah they Lizzie do esp my 13 yr old and with all the behavior problems i have with her i do say others under my breath but not out loud if know what i mean ::)
I dont swear at my lad. I beat him soundly instead.
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Whoops!
Having just read this thread, I remembered about the recent postings I did regarding isssues with my Nintendo Wii.
Feeling a little ashen faced.
I dont normally swear to extremes, however I do suggest foul language to indicate frustration or anger about a situation or event.
I shall endeavour to be more vigilant towards controlling my language on this forum. :y
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and we are not aloud to smack or hit our kids any more
And then people wonder why we have a problem with "feral" youths.....tell them twice, and if they persist then give them a slap because reasoning obviously isn't working if they continue to do something they shouldn't be doing.