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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Vamps on 19 May 2009, 22:12:15
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My laptop will not start up, has run its diagnostic check and nothing >:( >:( >:( just keeps on trying. Vista.
Any ideas please, not a tech on computers.
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at what point is it failing?
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It will not start from scratch. have just caught it going through and pressed F2 but have no idea what to do, if anything in this.
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It will not start from scratch. have just caught it going through and pressed F2 but have no idea what to do, if anything in this.
No, what point does it stop or not get past.
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Difficult to say, it seems to go through all the bits, even gets to welcome but then just starts going through the start up again
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may be a virus mate :-/
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Difficult to say, it seems to go through all the bits, even gets to welcome but then just starts going through the start up again
Is it getting to the bit where the green bar starts to go across (assuming vista)
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Difficult to say, it seems to go through all the bits, even gets to welcome but then just starts going through the start up again
Is it getting to the bit where the green bar starts to go across (assuming vista)
yes
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Difficult to say, it seems to go through all the bits, even gets to welcome but then just starts going through the start up again
Is it getting to the bit where the green bar starts to go across (assuming vista)
yes
Getting as far as the bluey/greeny screen with the Windoes is starting up msg?
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Difficult to say, it seems to go through all the bits, even gets to welcome but then just starts going through the start up again
Is it getting to the bit where the green bar starts to go across (assuming vista)
yes
Getting as far as the bluey/greeny screen with the Windoes is starting up msg?
yes, but then goes off and starts again
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Does it start in Safe Mode?
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Sorry, what is safe mode
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press F8 just past the BIOS/POST screen, select Safe Mode
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No, same problem :'(
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Ouch, you're in the realms of recovery console then, not so easy to properly repair remotely. Got any local friends reasonable with 'puters? Failing that, it will be a rebuild :(
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Try reformatting it :y
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Thanks TB, will take it in tomorrow to a repair place. Thanks for your help. :y
Using daughters Notebook, bloomin small ::) ::)
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If it's failing to start in Safe Mode, you are not on your way to going down the recovery route just yet.
Do you have a Windows Vista DVD to hand?
If so, it's relatively easy to sort.
If you don't, I can provide you with one (quite legally) and you can fix from that.
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Try reformatting it :y
What does that mean......??
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dont reformat it just yet Vamps youll loose the lot
theres a few options
1. as Killerwatt has said use the Windows Advanced System Recovery Console
or
2. try using your laptops inbuilt restore package youll have to sniff around the options list but on some of them you can rebuild the machine whilst keeping all your old data
to start the inbuilt recovery its usually on the bios screen and is usually F10 but sometimes its F11 or F12
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All quite complicated. Went back on to F8 and tried option that said something like start from last sucessfull start, or something like that. Looks like it has fired up OK, just going to try it now.
Would it be a good idea to log off and then start it up again to see?
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Running AVG at the moment, see what happens ::) :-[ :'(
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ahh a nice simple fix then :y
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ahh a nice simple fix then :y
Panic over, I hope, now i really must back up all my photos and other stuff :-[ was more worried about this then going an getting another computer ::) ::) TB did warn me ages ago to keep things backed up... :'( :-[ :-[ :'(
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well done vamps good bit of IT work ;D ;D :y
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2. try using your laptops inbuilt restore package youll have to sniff around the options list but on some of them you can rebuild the machine whilst keeping all your old data
I'd love to know what computers you have encountered that let you keep your existing data when running the inbuilt recovery process, because as soon as you invoke that, you flatten it back to day one (at least, every single one I have worked on does that).
All quite complicated. Went back on to F8 and tried option that said something like start from last sucessfull start, or something like that. Looks like it has fired up OK, just going to try it now.
You mean "Last known good configuration"....and if it has started from that, I'd be backing any personal crap up right now as you have had a lucky escape.
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You'd better call the Sledge Hammer ;D
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Panic over, I hope, now i really must back up all my photos and other stuff :-[ was more worried about this then going an getting another computer ::) ::) TB did warn me ages ago to keep things backed up... :'( :-[ :-[ :'(
Now you know why I run a "crappy" and "way overpriced for home use" NAS box ;)
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Thanks for all the help and advice, well most of it anyway :D :D OOF strikes again........ :y
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ahh a nice simple fix then :y
Panic over, I hope, now i really must back up all my photos and other stuff :-[ was more worried about this then going an getting another computer ::) ::) TB did warn me ages ago to keep things backed up... :'( :-[ :-[ :'(
Vamps
If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
pm me if you would like to and I'll give you the FTP addresses (and instructions on how to do it if necessary).
Gareth :) :)
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Inbuilt recovery consoles that let you keep all your data:
All DSG Brands (Advent Packard Bell eMachines Gateway)
HP Compaq too
any computer sold by pcworld that has the useless techguys recovery console although you need to use a usb drive for this)
i reckon to be fair the packard bell console is the best of the bunch you can even do a few naughty things with it
im still using DAT tapes for my backups anyone remember these babies?
i know of a rather large blue chip organisation thats still using reel 2 reel too for backing up billing & config info
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If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
Any chance you have 6TB spare for me to temporarily store my crap on? ;D
PS
I only have a 2Mbit upload, so it may take 290 days or so for the upload to complete :D
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AVG still running, found 2 faults Fake anti spy 'AntispwareApp' x 2 in program files :(
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If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
Any chance you have 6TB spare for me to temporarily store my crap on? ;D
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I only have a 2Mbit upload, so it may take 290 days or so for the upload to complete :D
No problem - would you like me to quote you a price ? ;) ;)
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LOL
i cant host nomore as i dont have a proper internet connection :( :( :(
bloody H3G and there crap proxy
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If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
Any chance you have 6TB spare for me to temporarily store my crap on? ;D
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I only have a 2Mbit upload, so it may take 290 days or so for the upload to complete :D
No problem - would you like me to quote you a price ? ;) ;)
Why not.....let's see if it's cheaper than what I give Redbus (LINX) at the moment for unlimited bandwidth on a 100Mbit pipe straight out in to the big wide world ;)
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If the fault comes back again, I would also check you dont have an intermittant RAM problem?
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Well, back on mine :y Daughters 'notebook' too small for me, I can type properly so this one finger typing is a pain to me and I kept hitting the wrong keys, sober :P
I am not going to switch this off tonight, just close the lid, seems to put it into a sleep mode. Don't have a lot of stuff on it that I would worry about loosing, will back up onto a disk my photos and other stuff tomorrow, just in case.
Still just the 2 faults according to AVG which is still running, only other problem recently is laptop seems to be running slowly, maybe I should take it in for a 'Service' by a professional ::)
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dont take it to PC World they acclaim to be pros but arent they also acclaim to be AMD & Intel trained but intel & amd do not give any training on pc repair!
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If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
Any chance you have 6TB spare for me to temporarily store my crap on? ;D
PS
I only have a 2Mbit upload, so it may take 290 days or so for the upload to complete :D
No problem - would you like me to quote you a price ? ;) ;)
Why not.....let's see if it's cheaper than what I give Redbus (LINX) at the moment for unlimited bandwidth on a 100Mbit pipe straight out in to the big wide world ;)
;D ;D ;D It won't be - that is who we use!!
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dont take it to PC World they acclaim to be pros but arent they also acclaim to be AMD & Intel trained but intel & amd do not give any training on pc repair!
No chance of that mate, there are a couple of independant places. The main home PC is waiting to go in for repair/checking, been waiting months cos I bought a second hand complete system for £60.oo, does the biz, so keeps the boys happy :y
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If you need somewhere to temporarily back up your files to (in case you have another problem) we have a couple of dedicated servers you could store them on until you get sorted with an external hard drive or similar.
Any chance you have 6TB spare for me to temporarily store my crap on? ;D
PS
I only have a 2Mbit upload, so it may take 290 days or so for the upload to complete :D
No problem - would you like me to quote you a price ? ;) ;)
Why not.....let's see if it's cheaper than what I give Redbus (LINX) at the moment for unlimited bandwidth on a 100Mbit pipe straight out in to the big wide world ;)
;D ;D ;D It won't be - that is who we use!!
The only way you are cheaper is if you are being paid to keep it on the 7th floor ;)
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Sledge Hammer Vamps that will sort it :y
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Sledge Hammer Vamps that will sort it :y
I may be, I have had many a moment, over the years when I have been tempted to throw the computer out of the window. Crashed and had to use F8 to start it again, however removed something that AVG brought up so will wait and see ::) ::)
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however removed something that AVG brought up so will wait and see ::) ::)
AVG has been a bit of a resource hog (as well as grossly over zealous) since v8 IMO.
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Give a crack with the Sledge go on... whats up? you daren't dare ya? go on you know you want to! let that built up anger out on that annoying laptop that is laughing at you....... ::)
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Give a crack with the Sledge go on... whats up? you daren't dare ya? go on you know you want to! let that built up anger out on that annoying laptop that is laughing at you....... ::)
I am using it :P :P :P But it is not happy, needs a service :-*
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i find Advast more useful then AVG an its free as wel :y also spybot is good for getting rid of unwanted spyware. here are two sites you can use for free
www.bitdefender.com
www.ewido.net
also is it Vista or XP? an did you get the operating software?
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Windows Vista.
Currently updating/reinstalling windows, found a disk to upgrade so giving it a go. :)
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you no if you boot from the CD and select repair(r), the select the harddrive you want to repair usually 1, the write in chkdsk/p after that has finished write in chkdsk/r and that should repair any files that got destroyed.
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Why not.....let's see if it's cheaper than what I give Redbus (LINX) at the moment for unlimited bandwidth on a 100Mbit pipe straight out in to the big wide world ;)
I have a spare unused (hot spare) server with a 1Gb connection and a shit load of disk space, located in TH ::). Shame its being decommissioned in a few weeks - its proven very useful in the past :'(. Was talk of putting some new kit in to replace this with 10Gb NICs, but I think its more likely that the nntp service will be pulled, or certainly drop the binaries...
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Why not.....let's see if it's cheaper than what I give Redbus (LINX) at the moment for unlimited bandwidth on a 100Mbit pipe straight out in to the big wide world ;)
I have a spare unused (hot spare) server with a 1Gb connection and a shit load of disk space, located in TH ::). Shame its being decommissioned in a few weeks - its proven very useful in the past :'(. Was talk of putting some new kit in to replace this with 10Gb NICs, but I think its more likely that the nntp service will be pulled, or certainly drop the binaries...
Sounds familiar >:(
Still Unlimited astrawebnews account for £7.60 a month for life, moving up to a years retention. Happy days :D :D :D
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Did the update, 2 choices, one saving files and one not. I chose to save the files :o :o Took a few hours to do it but now seems to be working fine............ :y :y :y
Thanks for the help and advice, some of it I could understand :-[ :-[ :-[