Omega Owners Forum

Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 20:05:58

Title: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 20:05:58
Another quality TheBoy production ::)

Decoding NCDC stereos
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/odds/IMG_2983.JPG)

and a close up of the 'birdsnest' programmer ::)
(http://theboy.omegaowners.com/oofpics/odds/IMG_2984.JPG)
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 20:38:08
And before Mr DTM mentions that its a cowboy job, I think its only fair to point out (seeing as he won't be online tonight) that it would appear his far more professional one doesn't work ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 20:39:23
Any guesses for what the bits are scattered across the OOF server's keyboard?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: ngrainqey on 17 October 2008, 20:42:00
no idea what parts are scattered across the oof servers keyboard lol...

i think its more important that it works rather than pleasing to the eye :P
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 17 October 2008, 20:42:47
A GID and part of a satnav system?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: STMO123 on 17 October 2008, 20:43:53
Looks like something out of 'Back to the future' to me. :(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 17 October 2008, 20:45:01
must say that is an impressive layer on dust on the printer  ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: gwa on 17 October 2008, 20:53:37
Ah, so you've been calling Zen Internet - Technical Support Phone Number: 08450589009  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D written on the invoice under the spaghetti of wire & resistors.  :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:22:13
Quote
A GID and part of a satnav system?
Incorrect
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:22:59
Quote
must say that is an impressive layer on dust on the printer  ;D
Thats because she is banned from that room. Its for gentlemen only ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:23:39
Quote
Ah, so you've been calling Zen Internet - Technical Support Phone Number: 08450589009  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D written on the invoice under the spaghetti of wire & resistors.  :y :y :y :y :y
Zen and I frequently chat ;)
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: feeutfo on 17 October 2008, 21:38:11
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate needing attention.:-)
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:42:07
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: tmx on 17 October 2008, 21:42:47
is that an activcard next to the keyboard?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 17 October 2008, 21:43:17
Quote
Quote
must say that is an impressive layer on dust on the printer  ;D
Thats because she is banned from that room. Its for gentlemen only ;D


Haha, didnt realise you were a cigar smoking Sherry Drinker.  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:44:36
Quote
is that an activcard next to the keyboard?
Certainly is.  Even better than that, that particular one (I must be the only person that has around a dozen on those things!) allows me to get on to your company's network.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: tmx on 17 October 2008, 21:49:29
thought it was one of theirs as its rubberised and my dads MOD one isnt good old corprate lan!
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 21:51:40
Quote
thought it was one of theirs as its rubberised and my dads MOD one isnt good old corprate lan!
About half of mine have the rubber cover on...
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: feeutfo on 17 October 2008, 22:22:38
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 22:26:07
Quote
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
wrong.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: amigov6 on 17 October 2008, 22:45:47
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
wrong.
I've just taken said fish out of my ear, washed it down with a pan galactic gargle blaster & my answer is 42!
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 22:47:40
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
wrong.
I've just taken said fish out of my ear, washed it down with a pan galactic gargle blaster & my answer is 42!
err, close. Not. ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 17 October 2008, 22:48:22
As a clue, it is not necessarily related to the (half of) NCDC2013 or CID that can be seen in picture...
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: feeutfo on 17 October 2008, 23:10:51
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
wrong.
I've just taken said fish out of my ear, washed it down with a pan galactic gargle blaster & my answer is 42!
Fairly sure the ultimate answer would be at least four digits?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: CaptainZok on 18 October 2008, 00:31:45
Err is it one of those black boxes that I still owe you?  :-[
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 18 October 2008, 08:08:04
Quote
Err is it one of those black boxes that I still owe you?  :-[
Nope. Oh, and thanks for reminding me ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: theolodian on 18 October 2008, 08:37:54
Quote
Quote
Quote
me sir, me sir. I know i know... With hand up at the back of the class desperate does attention.:-)
fire away....
Its part of the circuitry from a ncdc 2013 cd player and...a can bus babble fish?
The tower of babble?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 12:03:22
Do i take it you are now able to decode ncdc2013 as i have a ncdc2013 + GID paired but ive asked vx to tech2 a CID i bought to it but they say the screen is asking for the stereo code :(
I havent got the code as i bought as a paired unit
Any help asap from anyone around the northampton shire area as i'm up visting relatives but was due to go back tomorrow to devon
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: feeutfo on 27 May 2009, 12:38:53
as i understand it. Yes,  TB should bed able to sort that out for you. Not sure if he can be got hold of in time though.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 12:40:13
Yes TB is (one of) the Men who can

If the CID is paired to another unit somewhere, then I Dont think it is a while you wait job, takes some time and soldering.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 12:43:22
Quote
as i understand it. Yes,  TB should bed able to sort that out for you. Not sure if he can be got hold of in time though.


Thanks :D Has anyone got a contact number :(

If i know he can do it for me i will stay a few more days
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 12:54:27
he is normally on here a lot, as you have timescale issues I've dropped him a text about it.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 12:55:12
Quote
he is normally on here a lot, as you have timescale issues I've dropped him a text about it.

 Thats ever so kind of you thank you  ;)
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 13:06:18
Talking now, he has no net access till tonight....
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 13:07:00
Is this going into your vectra c (as per profile)?

does it have the rgb cable fitted?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:08:25
Hi yeah its going into my vectra c and it has the RGB cable fitted does he want to ring me or can i ring him

Like ive said the unit is working fine with my GID but the CID is displaying safe every couple of seconds so i think i either need the code for the ncdc or i need to some how reset both into delivery mode and recode them
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 27 May 2009, 13:10:04
Quote
Looks like something out of 'Back to the future' to me. :(

similiar here..I couldnt understand whats going on ;D :y

sure something useful :y
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 13:11:06
message passed on...
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:13:10
Cheers just off phone with vx again and they are saying there's nothing more they can do as the screen is still asking for the radio code :(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 13:15:36
quote :

I think Vectra c uses a different screen, if so, can't currently do as MarkDTM currently has the CANDI module (needed for later cars such as yours).
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:17:43
I can always travel to nottingham if Marks DTM can do it but would need to know if they can
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 13:20:32
Okey dokey, briefly on here for a few mins.

Is this a proper veccy-c screen, which is very different to Omega CID?

I currently may not have full diags capability, as Marks DTM currently has my CANdi lead.

I can get the depair code off, but without the CANdi, can't pair them.

I have other diag tools that claim to be able to pair/depair stuff, but actually doesn't do it properly on the Omega. Not tried on a Vectra-C, but can do if you are prepared to take the risk. If you are repairing with same code, I'm guessing it should be OK.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:23:37
All i need is the code from radio as vx seem to think all they need is that to pair the screen,the CID i have is part number 13156065 YF sticker
If you can do it it would be great mate then i can take it back to vx and ask them to pair it failing that i could always travel to nottingham if mark can pair them

But if you think you can pair them using the same code we could have aago
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 13:30:07
Quote
All i need is the code from radio as vx seem to think all they need is that to pair the screen,the CID i have is part number 13156065 YF sticker
If you can do it it would be great mate then i can take it back to vx and ask them to pair it failing that i could always travel to nottingham if mark can pair them

But if you think you can pair them using the same code we could have aago
No access to parts list currently, so no idea if CID is correct. Do all onboard systems in your car work when the CID is fitted - eg, all lights (inc brake lights), central locking, leccy windows, instruments etc etc

Is CID depaired state? I do not have a image for depairing Vectra-c CIDs.

I should be able to get pairing code for existing radio/GID.

I think Marks DTM is away for a few days.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:32:04
CID is the right one for my car and when the CID is fitted everything works fine even stereo and BC functions the only problem i get is display safe pops up every 2 or 3 seconds

Not sure about CID being unpaired as bought of ebay from a german salvage companys that sells loads of these
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 13:34:42
Quote
CID is the right one for my car and when the CID is fitted everything works fine even stereo and BC functions the only problem i get is display safe pops up every 2 or 3 seconds
Sounds like right screen. Not sure if it will have right config code on, sadly I can't resolve that without my CANdi lead if it has the wrong config code (in which case, BC will be wrong)
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:37:24
Not to bothered about BC functions atm just need to stop display saying "display safe" once its paired i will get all the code indexs and BC set.

Are you able to get code from radio then  :'(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: Jimbob on 27 May 2009, 13:40:52
I cant see that part no in EPC....only a couple of numbers away from the Vectra Colour displays though  :-/   13156088


cant find the omega number either?


Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:43:30
Heres a link to the screen i have http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=370193370536
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 13:44:32
Quote
Not to bothered about BC functions atm just need to stop display saying "display safe" once its paired i will get all the code indexs and BC set.

Are you able to get code from radio then  :'(
Should be able to.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 13:46:47
Brill i have pm'd you my mobile number give us a ring or text and i will ring you straight back

all so is there any way to tell if the CID is still married/paired to another stereo
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 14:11:46
Quote
Brill i have pm'd you my mobile number give us a ring or text and i will ring you straight back

all so is there any way to tell if the CID is still married/paired to another stereo
Only way to tell is live data reading on the CID when fitted.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 14:16:03
So would a vauxhall techy be able to tell thats the question.
And say it was still paired would that mean its useless or could you pair it with my stereo.
Any chance i could pop over tonight or tomorrow  :-[ or am i being to pushy as i was meant to be leaving tonight but could stay an extra couple of days if i know i can get this sorted
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 14:57:47
Quote
So would a vauxhall techy be able to tell thats the question.
And say it was still paired would that mean its useless or could you pair it with my stereo.
Any chance i could pop over tonight or tomorrow  :-[ or am i being to pushy as i was meant to be leaving tonight but could stay an extra couple of days if i know i can get this sorted
Tech2 can tell current status, select CID, then check Data Display, and it will say something like:

Delivery State - all well in the world
ID NOK (Yet) - up a smelly inlet, with no oar

If the latter, the screen is a doorstop, unless someone has a blank image for one.

I can discover pairing code tonight, should be in around 5:30ish, as I'm leaving work earlier today. I'm in Brackley - the other end of Northants to where you are.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 14:58:37
Sadly, do have to make a charge for discovering code to put in my Tech2 fund to offset the costs of them  :'(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 15:00:02
Im in corby atm its about an 1hr a way from brackey if you send me you addy i will try and meet you there around 5.30 ish if thats ok

Thats fine about the charge mate any ideas of how much ? as i will need a ncdc2015 doing in a few days as i have one at home thats not been depaired :( plus i will put a good word for you on our forums www.vectra-c.com
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 15:11:34
Quote
Im in corby atm its about an 1hr a way from brackey if you send me you addy i will try and meet you there around 5.30 ish if thats ok

Thats fine about the charge mate any ideas of how much ? as i will need a ncdc2015 doing in a few days as i have one at home thats not been depaired :( plus i will put a good word for you on our forums www.vectra-c.com
Price column 2 on http://theboy.omegaowners.com/tech2/prices.shtml is what I normally say - this one is more of an unknown as having to do without tech2 due to MDTM having my CANdi, so say £20 and we'll cover as much as we can cover?

Address arriving shortly via PM.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 15:13:53
Cheers just off phone with techy at vaux he seems to think the CID is ok as its asking for the code for stereo but not holding my breath
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 15:26:00
I hope you have some stereo removal keys - I've lent my double din ones out  :'(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 15:27:10
Quote
I hope you have some stereo removal keys - I've lent my double din ones out  :'(
Stereo is easily removed mate
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 15:39:36
Quote
Quote
I hope you have some stereo removal keys - I've lent my double din ones out  :'(
Stereo is easily removed mate
Good - they tend to stick in Omegas :(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: TheBoy on 27 May 2009, 20:12:20
Another satisfied customer :D
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 20:43:41
Quote
Another satisfied customer :D


Yep very satisfied thank you jaime and thanks to everyone that replied to my posts.
I have to say this is a very helpfull and very informative forum even though my car is a vectra c i was treated brilliantly  :D

Will defo stick around and if i can be of any help to anyone i will try  :y
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 May 2009, 20:49:24
Quote
Quote
Another satisfied customer :D


Yep very satisfied thank you jaime and thanks to everyone that replied to my posts.
I have to say this is a very helpfull and very informative forum even though my car is a vectra c i was treated brilliantly  :D

Will defo stick around and if i can be of any help to anyone i will try  :y

This other unit you have (2015).... do you happen to have the telematics unit as well??
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 21:54:38
Quote
Quote
Quote
Another satisfied customer :D


Yep very satisfied thank you jaime and thanks to everyone that replied to my posts.
I have to say this is a very helpfull and very informative forum even though my car is a vectra c i was treated brilliantly  :D

Will defo stick around and if i can be of any help to anyone i will try  :y

This other unit you have (2015).... do you happen to have the telematics unit as well??


Nope i'm after one of them  :(
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 May 2009, 21:58:17
Quote
Quote
Quote
Quote
Another satisfied customer :D

Yep very satisfied thank you jaime and thanks to everyone that replied to my posts.
I have to say this is a very helpfull and very informative forum even though my car is a vectra c i was treated brilliantly  :D

Will defo stick around and if i can be of any help to anyone i will try  :y

This other unit you have (2015).... do you happen to have the telematics unit as well??


Nope i'm after one of them  :(

I can sell you a broken one (actually make that two).

If you do find one I have the dark silver Vectra C bezel for it and also a dark silver 2015 bezel as well.
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 22:06:03
They are quite hard to find ive seen a few on german ebay but not paying that price for one,would be interested in bezels just in case i do find one tho and are the ones you have broken repairable ?
Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: VXL V6 on 27 May 2009, 22:12:07
The Telematics bezel is mint, the 2015 i'd have to check.

If you get a telematics with the standard black bezel we could do a swap with the bezels.

Title: Re: Another Quality TheBoy production
Post by: bigmac on 27 May 2009, 22:14:34
if i manage to get one i will defo pm you mate  :y