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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 26 May 2009, 12:43:59
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Seems like, in wet weather, the new bike test requiring riders to swerve at 31.2mph is causing a few headaches...and other aches.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8067212.stm
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Devised by some paper-pusher who's never ridden, presumably. ::)
Kevin
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]Devised by some paper-pusher who's never ridden, presumably.[/highlight] ::)
Kevin
As it is with a lot of recent leglislation Kevin :y :y
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But some instructors say that if riders brake and swerve at the same time they are likely to come off, particularly in the wet
Not that anyone would do that on the old test ::)
Oddly, even though i learnt and passed in the winter it was always dry, just cold!
Have to agree though, car drivers get tests cancelled in snow, and wet weather is like snow to a car.
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why is it they are quoting the speed in kph firstly then mph in brackets?, i do hope its not going to be what im thinking is in the pipeline >:(
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why is it they are quoting the speed in kph firstly then mph in brackets?, i do hope its not going to be what im thinking is in the pipeline >:(
Its an eu derived test
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But some instructors say that if riders brake and swerve at the same time they are likely to come off, particularly in the wet
Not that anyone would do that on the old test ::)
Oddly, even though i learnt and passed in the winter it was always dry, just cold!
Have to agree though, car drivers get tests cancelled in snow, and wet weather is like snow to a car.
Any panic moment on the brakes (particulary front) will result in intamicy with the tarmac :-[
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But you know that the next EU directive will be that all m/cycles have to have a ABS system fitted as standard ;) ;) ;) Like the system Honda have which my humble opinion is a total load of ****
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But you know that the next EU directive will be that all m/cycles have to have a ABS system fitted as standard ;) ;) ;) Like the system Honda have which my humble opinion is a total load of ****
A few bikes have had abs for a while. Some riders love it, some hate it. Bit like when ABS first came to cars, some male egos couldn't accept that the computer might do it better....
I suspect it could become more comon on bikes
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Bit like when ABS first came to cars, some male egos couldn't accept that the computer might do it better....
The "computer" has already had it's ar$e kicked in the braking stakes when doing battle against pro drivers, although I do agree that ABS is something that should come as standard regardless if we are truly serious about "road safety"
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Bit like when ABS first came to cars, some male egos couldn't accept that the computer might do it better....
The "computer" has already had it's ar$e kicked in the braking stakes when doing battle against pro drivers, although I do agree that ABS is something that should come as standard regardless if we are truly serious about "road safety"
I agree in the hands of a pro, the human brain often (but not always) beats the abs ecu.
But, and this is where ego comes in, whilst we may think we are all pro drivers, we ain't...
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But, and this is where ego comes in, whilst we may think we are all pro drivers, we ain't...
Spot on :y
Only a very small handful are in the same class as McGrath/Windham/Wey/etc.
The rest who think they are in the same class need the electronics, if for no other reason than to reduce the collateral damage when the inevitable happens.
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Seems like, in wet weather, the new bike test requiring riders to swerve at 31.2mph is causing a few headaches...and other aches.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8067212.stm
I read (in MCN iirc) that the D.O.T. were told that this would happen months before thet introduced it but they took break all notice and carried on regardless.
>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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why is it they are quoting the speed in kph firstly then mph in brackets?, i do hope its not going to be what im thinking is in the pipeline >:(
Its an eu derived test
When will the British Government have the Ball's to tell the EU to get lost interfering with all of our laws.
If they made sense it wouldn't be so bad, but some of the things that are coming out of it are utter waste of time, look at the time with such things as Banana's too stright or potato's too small ?? :-? .
Where's it end ??.
And as for the KPH measurement, it'll be here at some point. Dare say the British government are looking at a back door way of sneaking it in, probably have a trial run with some county/area near the Euro tunnel ?.
Any of you think they won't change the signs to KPH as it's too expensive, look at the money they were going to plough into the I.D. card system for everyone, there wound'nt be that many signs to change in comparison ?. :o .
If they want to make biker's safer on the roads, think they're should be more bike awareness in the driving test for car drivers, both paper and practical. Perhaps even insisting that drivers take a kind of 'moped' CBT.
Might may people aware of how the rider worries about being knocked off by car drivers, and why is it when there's an accident involving a bike, they always say there's been a bike accident - that inplies that it's the riders fault, when facts always show the majority of the time its the car drivers fault.
There was an accident here whereby there were roadworks, a bike was correctly riding through them, a car driver couldn't be bothered to wait in the cue, does an unexpected U-turn, result = Rider gets thrown off his bike and losses a leg !.
I know how it feels, as I've riden a bike and now drive a car (got a motorbike trike also), so I can simpathise with riders.
Anyhow, sorry all for the bit of rant - Aimed at the government and the EU.
Nuff said !.
M
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& dont forget smegmatt that the weights & measures have already been changed, also dont forget that little blue bit on number plates with the EU flag on, amazing how these appeared before brown the clown signed us over >:(, anyhow ive thrown my plates away & replaced with non EU badged ones :y i didnt vote for it so i dont advertise it,,,,,rant over :(
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& dont forget smegmatt that the weights & measures have already been changed, ......
Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits :-?, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? :-/ :-/
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I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric.
Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100.
Too much traffic to get much over 80.
Then the customer at Wexford I was visiting told me it was in km/h.
I actually don't use metric, don't like the units very much, stupid things like km/h and cl ect ect.
Yes I use litres, kilogrammes, metres, seconds, newtons ect.
The SI system.
Nothing wrong with speed in ms-1 ;D ;D
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I recall reading in MCN many years ago that France had a similar test that involved riding through a "greasy road" section. This was until a woman was killed on the test. There were calls to have it removed from the test but they were ignored, so the site was dug up overnight.
The authorities re-layed the section. The following night it was dug up with mechanical diggers.
The "greasy road" ride was soon removed from the test ;D :y
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I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric.
Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100.
Too much traffic to get much over 80.
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Go over about 45 on the roads there and your fillings drop out. ;)
Kevin
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I got a little caught out by Ireland going metric.
Came off the ferry at Rosslaire speed limit 100.
Too much traffic to get much over 80.
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Go over about 45 on the roads there and your fillings drop out. ;)
Kevin
I thought the main road out of the port was OK.
Last time I went there (Punt->Earhole conversion) the ferry was diverted to Dublin, took me 4 hours to drive back to Wexford (near Rosslaire) and the driving was a bit scarey, luckily I had a big car to bully back with.
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I'm guessing you had a bit more suspension travel then me. ;) It's "a bit scarey" at times, all right, but the traffic on the twisty lanes is non-existent. :y
Kevin
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I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.
Seems daft that anyone once they get a provisional license can get in a car and do anything but motorway with no training! :o
IMHO
It should be
1. Pass Theory Test
2. Pass CBT
3. Get Issued provisional license for normal learning
4. Take (extended) test, pass and get limited power license, display new driver plates.
5. 2 years later, if history ok, get full license.
Trouble is I suppose, enough people drive around illegally already, make it harder and more will likely follow :'(
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Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits :-?, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? :-/ :-/
1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.
I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.
There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).
What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.
I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.
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Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits :-?, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? :-/ :-/
1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.
I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.
There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).
What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.
I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.
Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt ;D
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& dont forget smegmatt that the weights & measures have already been changed, also dont forget that little blue bit on number plates with the EU flag on, amazing how these appeared before brown the clown signed us over >:(, anyhow ive thrown my plates away & replaced with non EU badged ones :y i didnt vote for it so i dont advertise it,,,,,rant over :(
I think thats a bit much, I like them, saves buying GB stickers when I drive to Holland!
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Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt ;D
PMSL ;D ;D
Seriously though, all this theory crap is just that, it's crap.
Anybody can talk a good job, actually doing it is something else altogether.
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Think you have watched "Death Race 2000" to many times 20watt ;D
PMSL ;D ;D
Seriously though, all this theory crap is just that, it's crap.
Anybody can talk a good job, actually doing it is something else altogether.
I do agree with that :y
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Yes. We very quietly lost or 1/5 or 1/6 of a gill of spirits :-?, is 25 ml bigger or smaller? :-/ :-/
1/6 gill is 23.7ml, so we gained slightly on that.
I think its about time the car learning / testing procedure got a bit harder.
There was nothing really wrong with the original test IMO, the problem (if anything) is lack of common sense (something we all suffered from when we got a full license at 17).
What gets my goat is that we restrict 17 year olds to 12BHP if they want to ride a bike, yet if that same 17 year old wants to get behind the wheel of daddy's 300BHP Porsche, there is nothing to stop them legally doing so.
I personally think the driving test should consist of spending a day driving in London, using an old 325 BMW (or other similar heavy, powerful, rear wheel drive car) with absolutely no driving aids (eg, ABS, Traction Control, etc) at all....and if you make it through the day without f**king anybody else (or yourself) up then you've passed.
And then do similar with motorways,not allowed on them until you have taken a seperate test to prove you have the ability/confidence to drive/ride at high speed.Then remove the upper speed limit on motorways. 8-)