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Title: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 13 June 2009, 21:35:01
I might be buying 3.0 elite in Manchester soon and I was thinking that maybe someone could have a look at it before I put cash on the table. I have never had omega before and I just don't know where to look to spot incoming problems.
I will have to take a train (from London) and I don't know anyone who could help me up there. I am thinking about paying for eventual help ::) :)
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Del Boy on 13 June 2009, 21:48:50
Pretty sure someone on here will help you out mate, great bunch here  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 14 June 2009, 00:33:30
Whereabouts in Manchester is the car mate?

Might be able to help you out :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 14 June 2009, 01:25:37
Baguley, Greater Manchester
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Elite Pete on 14 June 2009, 07:50:50
Me and Loo Knee are close to Baguley on Tuesday if that helps
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 14 June 2009, 11:31:29
Unfortunately I can go to Manchester only at the weekend.

Have a look at this  260427298039

It is on bay for the second time, last time it was  260411812154
Seller wants to get around 2000 (at least this is what he told me after last unsuccessful auction). I don't personally think that he will get this sort of money. Because this is exactly the car I am after, I would offer him 1900 but I must be sure that everything is OK with the car (and LPG system). So if anyone would be able to have a look at this good looking elite before I spend all day travelling to Manchester it would be great. I am asking for this favour only if you live next door and only if it is not too much hassle for you.
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 14 June 2009, 11:36:23
Baguley is about 25 minutes from my house and I am willing to go and have a look, however, Daz (Loo-Knee) and Pete (Elite Pete) have a lot more experience than I do and would be able to appraise the car more thoroughly.

If they can help I would suggest you take them up on their offer.  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Del Boy on 14 June 2009, 11:49:20
2000 quid bit steep  :-/
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Del Boy on 14 June 2009, 11:51:17
Mind you it's LPG'd too which is a bonus  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 June 2009, 11:59:34
Just bought my 2000 MV6, and done every conceivable job on the engine - for well, well under half the price of this one.

In fairness, my labour is free to me so no big deal - but, you wouldn't catch me paying £2k for a 2000 Omega.

ESPECIALLY an LPG one - I've not seen a half decent dealer install yet - Aside of Entwoods.

It's all down to personal preference - I've stated mine - yours may be different - it just depends what it's worth to YOU  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 June 2009, 12:03:55
just hadover 1000 pounds spent on engine,new head gaskets new rocker gaskets new valves cambelt tensioner ,and roller water pump coil pack and service on engine and lpg

Any reciepts for the work?

What was the reason for needing so much work?

If the cambelt failed, and damaged valves were replaced, what condition are the valve guides in?

Does the LPG carry a certificate?

What did the LPG service comprise of - was the system tuned (or at least, checked) at the same time and where is the bill?


I would have many questions before parting with a wedge on this one....
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: JamesV6CDX on 14 June 2009, 12:05:37
Just to be a really fussy so-so - the multivalve on that LPG tank doesn't look at an ideal angle! ( should be around 35 degrees.... IIRC)
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 14 June 2009, 12:34:29
Thanks everyone for your help. I agree that 2000 is a bit much but I am willing to put this sort of money only if the car is close to perfect. LPG is a must (but only if it works properly). I am already amazed by the questions you suggested. I would never ask questions like this and that's exactly why I need help from more experienced omega owners. 

Scottie thanks for your help offer. I am sure That you are able to say much more about any omega than I do. So if it is not a problem it would be great if you could have a look at her and share your opinion.
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 14 June 2009, 12:42:32
I will go and have a look as soon as I can. I must warn that I am not the greatest DIY mechanic and will only be able to comment on the general condition not the mechanical condition of the car.

I don't want you to think that what I say is a mechanical appraisal in any way. Also I don't know the first thing about LPG installs. :-/
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 14 June 2009, 17:10:17
That's great Scottie. Can't wait to see what you will say about the car and the seller. It is always good not only to see the car but also to meet the owner, talk to him and get some idea if you are talking to honest seller or someone trying to sell you piece of crap.

Talking about the price... I was hoping that I will buy decent 3.0 elite (FL) for about 1000 and then put LPG in for another 1000. But it turns out that it is difficult to find nice one for 1000 and LPG conversion will probably cost more than 1000 that is why I just want to get one which is already converted and safe myself a lot of hassle. That is the reason why I am willing to pay up to 2000. Toes it make any sense? What do you think? (any advice really appreciated  :) )
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: kingycos2 on 16 June 2009, 18:46:12
I'm free thursday and its only just down the road from me, I have a decent basic knowledge on the mechanical side, but I know nothing about LPG systems. Willing to go Thursday or even tom night.
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: omegod on 16 June 2009, 19:40:36

Bought a 2000 registered 3.0 a year ago which admittedly was a mini facelift, on LPG for a fair bit less than that.

If I was in your situation and you really are up for buying it? I would get Elite-Pete and Loo-Knee to have a look at it for you as they seem to know these cars inside out, maybe for a few beer tokens !.

As far as the LPG is concerned, if it runs ok when cold and hot and accelerates cleanly you would hopefully be ok IMHO. A decent LPG service is around £90 as I recall.

Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 June 2009, 20:39:55
Kingycos if you are closer and can get there easily then you can probably say as much as me about it and save me a trip.

I can go but will probably be Friday before I can go.
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: kingycos2 on 16 June 2009, 21:54:58
Going over Thursday evening, unless anything else is said on here, only 10 mins from me.... Will let you know how I get on.
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 17 June 2009, 20:23:39
That's great.
I wasn't here for 2 days. I lost internet connection because storm blew up power adaptor to my wireless router but I managed to get temporary USB modem. So I am back  ;D

If it is in good mechanical condition and runs ok on lpg when cold and hot that's all I need. looking forward to what you will say about it.  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 17 June 2009, 20:41:15
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Just bought my 2000 MV6, and done every conceivable job on the engine - for well, well under half the price of this one.

In fairness, my labour is free to me so no big deal - but, you wouldn't catch me paying £2k for a 2000 Omega.

ESPECIALLY an LPG one - I've not seen a half decent dealer install yet - Aside of Entwoods.

It's all down to personal preference - I've stated mine - yours may be different - it just depends what it's worth to YOU  :y

Dans was pretty bad wasn't it?

With DIY you can plan what you do
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 19 June 2009, 18:56:10
Anyone seen this car yet?

Price seems to be already a bit high (1800) but if it is in good condition I would give even little more  :)
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 19 June 2009, 20:33:05
just an idea..

if I were you, I wont look lpg miggies for high prices..

Why, the reason is imho, miggies are complicated cars even without LPG..

so , instead I would try to find one which is mechanically well looked (as much as possible) and have receipts of changed parts..

After some check buy OOFers I would buy it..

Then try to learn the "character" of the car..

and lpg it by the help of experts here..

which will be simpler to solve in case of any problem.. :y

Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 20 June 2009, 15:59:58
This sounds like very good idea and I was thinking the exactly the same way when I started to think about buying omega. The thing is that I would have to pay probably about 1300 for fl 3.0 elite and then another 1000 for LPG (correct me if I am wrong) That would make even more than 2000 and would give me a lot of hassle. the other thing is that I don't have much knowledge about LPG conversion and don't have tools or space to do it. As far as I am aware LPG conversion is quite complicated and I don't believe that DIY is the best method. I think that it should be dome by professionals (who have done it many times before). I do realise that finding the right people for the job for acceptable money might be a big issue.
I am a new member of OOF and I know that I might be wrong about many things. That is why I really appreciate help and advice from more experienced omega owners. :y 
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: Witorwitor on 21 June 2009, 17:26:46
Hmm... 5 hours to the end of auction... anyone have seen it?
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 21 June 2009, 18:16:52
Sorry Witor I didn't bother because kingycos was closer and said that he was going. I can't make it today either I'm afraid.

Hopefully kingycos has been and will be here shortly.  :y
Title: Re: Any forum members in Manchester?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 21 June 2009, 19:15:13
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This sounds like very good idea and I was thinking the exactly the same way when I started to think about buying omega. The thing is that I would have to pay probably about 1300 for fl 3.0 elite and then another 1000 for LPG (correct me if I am wrong) That would make even more than 2000 and would give me a lot of hassle. the other thing is that I don't have much knowledge about LPG conversion and don't have tools or space to do it. As far as I am aware LPG conversion is quite complicated and I don't believe that DIY is the best method. I think that it should be dome by professionals (who have done it many times before). I do realise that finding the right people for the job for acceptable money might be a big issue.
I am a new member of OOF and I know that I might be wrong about many things. That is why I really appreciate help and advice from more experienced omega owners. :y 

I think your only one chance is to buy from an oof owner where all the history and service life is known..

but from a dealer chances are likely very low to find a good lpgd car.. 


imho first focusing on a well looked mint car is of primary goal..

then you can buy some good quality set..and ask for some professional help from here.. :y