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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Lazydocker on 23 June 2009, 20:19:55
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After listening to Jeremy Vine today I was truly shocked and upset about this story. I refuse to link to it but the CNN news report is on Youtube. BE WARNED: It is very distressing and not suitable for young/sensitive viewers :'(
As it transpires, the news report is slightly wrong in that she's not even a protester... Just an innocent young girl who was in the wrong place!
I am simply lost for words how a country such as Iran, which is supposed to be part of the developed world, can still have such a barbaric and unethical approach to life! And to top it all off, the Iranian Government stepped in and prevented them from holding the memorial service for the poor girl... What an inhumane assault on human rights >:(
I am truly shocked and upset that this can happen in 2009 and hope and pray that the world will come to it's senses sometime soon!
My thoughts go out to her family and friends who have to deal with such a tragedy.
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After listening to Jeremy Vine today I was truly shocked and upset about this story. I refuse to link to it but the CNN news report is on Youtube. BE WARNED: It is very distressing and not suitable for young/sensitive viewers :'(
As it transpires, the news report is slightly wrong in that she's not even a protester... Just an innocent young girl who was in the wrong place!
I am simply lost for words how a country such as Iran, which is supposed to be part of the developed world, can still have such a barbaric and unethical approach to life! And to top it all off, the Iranian Government stepped in and prevented them from holding the memorial service for the poor girl... What an inhumane assault on human rights >:(
I am truly shocked and upset that this can happen in 2009 and hope and pray that the world will come to it's senses sometime soon!
My thoughts go out to her family and friends who have to deal with such a tragedy.
I am saddened to say that it won't happen soon --- and if it does it will be as the aftermath of some momentous disaster (quite possibly of the atomic variety).
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I have just watched it, really do not no what to say :'(
Also disturbing that youtube tried to block it >:(
I think the world maybe changing.
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I have just watched it, really do not no what to say :'(
Also disturbing that youtube tried to block it >:(
I think the world maybe changing.
I'm sure you can understand why i refuse to link to it then... Too many young eyes/fingers on here
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After listening to Jeremy Vine today I was truly shocked and upset about this story. I refuse to link to it but the CNN news report is on Youtube. BE WARNED: It is very distressing and not suitable for young/sensitive viewers :'(
As it transpires, the news report is slightly wrong in that she's not even a protester... Just an innocent young girl who was in the wrong place!
I am simply lost for words how a country such as Iran, which is supposed to be part of the developed world, can still have such a barbaric and unethical approach to life! And to top it all off, the Iranian Government stepped in and prevented them from holding the memorial service for the poor girl... What an inhumane assault on human rights >:(
I am truly shocked and upset that this can happen in 2009 and hope and pray that the world will come to it's senses sometime soon!
My thoughts go out to her family and friends who have to deal with such a tragedy.
I am saddened to say that it won't happen soon --- and if it does it will be as the aftermath of some momentous disaster (quite possibly of the atomic variety).
I fear, HC, that you're probably right!
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I have just watched it, really do not no what to say :'(
Also disturbing that youtube tried to block it >:(
I think the world maybe changing.
I'm sure you can understand why i refuse to link to it then... Too many young eyes/fingers on here
Totally agree with you there LD.
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I watched it last night on Youtube and was shocked.
On the upside, the Internet is changing the world for the better; twenty years ago, the Iranian government would have found it much easier to prevent us knowing about human rights abuses and oppression in their country. Now, it's virtually impossible. The whole world watches and listens. Within minutes of a young lady being brutally shot, the scene is up on the 'net for hundreds of millions to see.
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I watched it last night on Youtube and was shocked.
On the upside, the Internet is changing the world for the better; twenty years ago, the Iranian government would have found it much easier to prevent us knowing about human rights abuses and oppression in their country. Now, it's virtually impossible. The whole world watches and listens. Within minutes of a young lady being brutally shot, the scene is up on the 'net for hundreds of millions to see.
They still tried to get this one covered up!
I think the thing I find most shocking is that it'a a government funded militia responsible for it >:( >:( >:(
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After listening to Jeremy Vine today I was truly shocked and upset about this story. I refuse to link to it but the CNN news report is on Youtube. BE WARNED: It is very distressing and not suitable for young/sensitive viewers :'(
As it transpires, the news report is slightly wrong in that she's not even a protester... Just an innocent young girl who was in the wrong place!
I am simply lost for words how a country such as Iran, which is supposed to be part of the developed world, can still have such a barbaric and unethical approach to life! And to top it all off, the Iranian Government stepped in and prevented them from holding the memorial service for the poor girl... What an inhumane assault on human rights >:(
I am truly shocked and upset that this can happen in 2009 and hope and pray that the world will come to it's senses sometime soon!
My thoughts go out to her family and friends who have to deal with such a tragedy.
Toughts are similiar..
Today I wanted to open that subject , but after I give up :-/
Iran is a long story..And Iranian people have suffered for long long years.. Even during my university years I have friends from there which escape from war, government and many things.. One was an old mathematician who was giving part time lessons and trying to finish a second university..
Now in that time in that century it may be very hard for you to believe whats happening there but actually its the struggle where European countries have passed some hundred years ago.. :(
Those mullahs have no mercy for anyone , nor interested in democracy nor in human life in case their regime is under danger.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
To understand their way of thinking , they use religion as their main tool for the uneducated masses to go after them.. >:( >:( >:( >:(
And unfortunately those primats have their copies also here >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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And unfortunately some western countries fuel those mullahs by threating their countries
which causes them to gain more power >:(
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I watched it last night on Youtube and was shocked.
On the upside, the Internet is changing the world for the better; twenty years ago, the Iranian government would have found it much easier to prevent us knowing about human rights abuses and oppression in their country. Now, it's virtually impossible. The whole world watches and listens. Within minutes of a young lady being brutally shot, the scene is up on the 'net for hundreds of millions to see.
.............In part Derek that is quite a reasonable statement, however the internet can also be the messenger of many things evil, so we have to be careful before lavishing praise on this very influential medium.
I have witnessed many such situations during my time, long before the repository of information and availability of immediate news that we now recognise as convienient aspects of the internet, there were few to feel the full effects of such tragic circumstances.
The close family, those unfortunate civilians who happened to be there at the time and those like me, whose duty it was to pick up the pieces.
No widespread dissemination of the tragic news apart from a brief mention on the broadcast news bulletins and a few column inches, sometimes on the front page but more than often than not, on the inner pages of the print media.
Those reports could not convey the true horror of the occurrence however. The confusion, noise, smell, grief and the absolute dead-weight of lifeless bodies can never replicated in anything but reality - nor the expression of anxiety on the faces of those survivors or on the faces of loved ones hoping that their own were not among the casualties.
No, the witnesses to the full effects of such circumstances were few and far between. Had there been the facility at the time to make many more people aware of just how bestial it can be to perpetrate such outrages, perhaps there would have been a greater effort in society at large to raise its collective objection to it.
When I see such things I am taken back many years to remember things which for me and many like me, are as real today as they were at the time.
It is of the utmost importance therefore that news of such events, however upsetting, is distributed with swiftness and surety, so others may raise their objections to it and confront those who would claim to act for a popular purpose, but in reality act only for their own immoral and perverted ends.
Violence is not and never will be the answer and for those who advocate for its use, only time will show them how wrong they were.
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cem,
As ever, you have hit the nail on the head! Religion is used as both a tool and an excuse for violence! I too have known Iranians who are just pleased to have escaped the tyranny which is the building blocks upon which their country is formed!
Zulu,
Again you come up with something interesting and relevant! It does make you wander what the world's reaction would have been to some of the atrocities we only ever found out about a long time after the event! :-/ :-/
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I haven't watched the video, but I have read the description.
A simply awful event, made even worse by the cynical reaction of the authorities in denying her family the proper farewell. :'(
Perhaps, just perhaps, Neda Soltani's name will be remembered not just for her own brutal murder, but also as the focal point in Iran's history when the people finally threw off the shackles imposed by a corrupt ruling elite.
I pray that this will be the case.
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I haven't watched the video, but I have read the description.
A simply awful event, made even worse by the cynical reaction of the authorities in denying her family the proper farewell. :'(
Perhaps, just perhaps, Neda Soltani's name will be remembered not just for her own brutal murder, but also as the focal point in Iran's history when the people finally threw off the shackles imposed by a corrupt ruling elite.
I pray that this will be the case.
She has already become the focus of the protests now... As was said on JV today, the people now have something to use as a focus... Her memory.
I just hope it wont breed more death and violence, but I doubt that'll be the case >:( >:(
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Why is it that the Government or relevant authorities get blamed,who,s the one with the gun or the riot stick in their hands? Not that i'm excusing said Government(s).
eddie
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Why is it that the Government or relevant authorities get blamed,who,s the one with the gun or the riot stick in their hands? Not that i'm excusing said Government(s).
eddie
Assumed to be Government Funded Militia as the protesters are unarmed and trying to protest peacefully. Poor Neda wasn't even protesting, she was just in the wrong place >:( >:(
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One day nobody will remember those mullahs as they will take their place in the bin of history..
Only those who lost their lifes as the milestones will always be remembered..