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Title: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 June 2009, 17:24:33
Hardly surprisingly with the further vast reduction in the demand for steel, Corus is cutting a further 2,000 jobs:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8118584.stm

What a shadow of its great days, but times really have changed globally. :( :( :(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Welung666 on 25 June 2009, 17:30:28
Have Corus got anywhere left to shut?
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 June 2009, 18:02:01
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Have Corus got anywhere left to shut?


Good question, but apparently they do:

http://www.corusgroup.com/en/company/about_corus/

 ;)
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: waspy on 25 June 2009, 18:14:22
When i was fabricating our buyer would source the cheapest steel possible. We would take delivery of profile from India, Russia & a few other places. The qaulity was SHIT & REALLY SO.
When we took a delivery of steel from British Steel as it was known then, it was a very high standard of quality. It cut smoother, welded better & was a good deal stonger too. Hence "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"
I buy my own tools for work & when ever i can i always buy Britool. It's qaulity stuff at a decent price. I never buy Draper or any of these Chinese, Indian tat.
You know when you have quality :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 June 2009, 18:45:30
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When i was fabricating our buyer would source the cheapest steel possible. We would take delivery of profile from India, Russia & a few other places. The qaulity was SHIT & REALLY SO.
When we took a delivery of steel from British Steel as it was known then, it was a very high standard of quality. It cut smoother, welded better & was a good deal stonger too. Hence "YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR"
I buy my own tools for work & when ever i can i always buy Britool. It's qaulity stuff at a decent price. I never buy Draper or any of these Chinese, Indian tat.
You know when you have quality :y :y :y :y

Yes, that is one of the reasons, quite apart from a vast reduction in shipbuilding, motor car production and construction, why British steel production has declined form 27,006,000 tons in 1965 to just 11,700,000 tons in 2002!! ::) ::) :( :( :(

It was 16,293,000 tons in 1950 in austerity Britain, so we are even below that figure now :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: markey mark on 25 June 2009, 19:21:04
i know i work there !  >:( >:(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 June 2009, 19:22:25
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i know i work there !  >:( >:(
:'( :'(


Oh dear Mark, very sorry to hear that! :'( :'(

Is your job safe? :-/
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: markey mark on 25 June 2009, 19:25:50
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i know i work there !  >:( >:(
:'( :'(


Oh dear Mark, very sorry to hear that! :'( :'(

Is your job safe? :-/

at the min yea its supposed to be white collar workers  :(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 25 June 2009, 22:08:47
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i know i work there !  >:( >:(
:'( :'(


Oh dear Mark, very sorry to hear that! :'( :'(

Is your job safe? :-/

at the min yea its supposed to be white collar workers  :(


Well I wish you all the best Mark! ;) ;)
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Nickbat on 25 June 2009, 22:25:34
It's terrible that those who actually produce something lose their jobs especially when, in the bloated Alice-in-Wonderland world of the public sector, they are still hiring people at £119k per year who have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5627849/119000-council-job-advert-attacked-for-being-written-in-gobbledegook-and-waffle.html

Oh yes, the lucky person to get the post will not do anything useful like making steel, no they will make sure "That the diversity of Kirklees is understood by all in the organisation; is valued as a strength but a strength that challenges us to respond to its complex implications; and is reflected in the career structures within the organisation."

Kirklees Council again. (I seem to recall mentioning them a short while ago - can't remember in what context though).

What a country.  >:(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: djm1964 on 25 June 2009, 22:31:23
hope it works out OK for you Mark
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: markey mark on 25 June 2009, 23:37:20
cheers lizzie and dave  :y
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Vamps on 25 June 2009, 23:50:31
The ideal candidate must have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers", the Kirklees Council advert states.

I am pretty much up on these things but I have never heard those phrases.  Perhaps if I understood what it meant I might have applied.  Mind, not sure I would want to drop my salary that much........ :D :D :D

Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: CaptainZok on 26 June 2009, 00:00:46
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The ideal candidate must have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers", the Kirklees Council advert states.

I am pretty much up on these things but I have never heard those phrases.  Perhaps if I understood what it meant I might have applied.  Mind, not sure I would want to drop my salary that much........ :D :D :D

Sounds like somebody in Human Remains is playing w**k word bingo with the job descriptions. ;D ;D
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 June 2009, 00:02:18
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The ideal candidate must have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers", the Kirklees Council advert states.


I am pretty much up on these things but I have never heard those phrases.  Perhaps if I understood what it meant I might have applied.  Mind, not sure I would want to drop my salary that much........ :D :D :D


It usually means that as a manager you are capable and experienced of operating in a multi-functional capacity throughout the various departments and specialist sectors of your company.  You also have the ability to motivate, train and manage your team to achieve performance targets, with a driven passion for results.  That was a daily mantra for my managerial life, and still would be!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)

Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Nickbat on 26 June 2009, 00:10:13
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The ideal candidate must have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers", the Kirklees Council advert states.


I am pretty much up on these things but I have never heard those phrases.  Perhaps if I understood what it meant I might have applied.  Mind, not sure I would want to drop my salary that much........ :D :D :D


It usually means that as a manager you are capable and experienced of operating in a multi-functional capacity throughout the various departments and specialist sectors of your company.  You also have the ability to motivate, train and manage your team to achieve performance targets, with a driven passion for results.  That was a daily mantra for my managerial life, and still would be!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)


i.e, in English, you should be a good manager. 8-) ::)
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Vamps on 26 June 2009, 00:10:38
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The ideal candidate must have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers", the Kirklees Council advert states.


I am pretty much up on these things but I have never heard those phrases.  Perhaps if I understood what it meant I might have applied.  Mind, not sure I would want to drop my salary that much........ :D :D :D


It usually means that as a manager you are capable and experienced of operating in a multi-functional capacity throughout the various departments and specialist sectors of your company.  You also have the ability to motivate, train and manage your team to achieve performance targets, with a driven passion for results.  That was a daily mantra for my managerial life, and still would be!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)


Going to use that in my appraisal next week....... :y :y :y
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Vamps on 26 June 2009, 00:12:34
Just emailed it to work so that I do not forget it..... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 June 2009, 00:19:00
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Just emailed it to work so that I do not forget it..... ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y

That is what comes of 30 years in management, 5 years at board level as part of a multi-international company.  You have to be able to read and write the managerial bullshit as and when necessary to stop yourself sliding down the greasy pole!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
 
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Vamps on 26 June 2009, 00:26:24
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Just emailed it to work so that I do not forget it..... ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D :y :y

That is what comes of 30 years in management, 5 years at board level as part of a multi-international company.  You have to be able to read and write the managerial bullshit as and when necessary to stop yourself sliding down the greasy pole!! ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;)
 

I am not a manager, but believe me, in my role I am well able to use / write the appropriate bull than enables me to say an a dozen 'posh' words what could be said in a few ordinary words.  Something I am not happy with and, within my role, trying to simplify...... :y
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: ascona boy on 26 June 2009, 06:59:00
Despite the company I worked for making £1.8 million profit a month, which was 30% lower than plan, they decided to make me and 44 other people redundant. 

Because I have saved money for my kids to go to university, I'm apparently not entitled to much in the way of benefits until I've spent it, but apparently If I spend it on paying off the mortgage that will be treated as benefit fraud, so I have to spend it all on living, at which point I'll be entitled to benefits and they might just pay the interest on my mortgage (which I could actually pay off!!). 

Anyway I digress, here's my details

http://www.linkedin.com/in/markjacksonasconaattitude

If you know anyone that wants someone for a 1 month contract or more doing Lean or six sigma or supplier development.

Damm I came to omega owners dot com to buy an omega - still might if I can find a good one as that is allowed by d-SS rules, not to complain about my problems  :o

Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 June 2009, 08:23:27
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Despite the company I worked for making £1.8 million profit a month, which was 30% lower than plan, they decided to make me and 44 other people redundant. 

Because I have saved money for my kids to go to university, I'm apparently not entitled to much in the way of benefits until I've spent it, but apparently If I spend it on paying off the mortgage that will be treated as benefit fraud, so I have to spend it all on living, at which point I'll be entitled to benefits and they might just pay the interest on my mortgage (which I could actually pay off!!). 

Anyway I digress, here's my details

http://www.linkedin.com/in/markjacksonasconaattitude

If you know anyone that wants someone for a 1 month contract or more doing Lean or six sigma or supplier development.

Damm I came to omega owners dot com to buy an omega - still might if I can find a good one as that is allowed by d-SS rules, not to complain about my problems  :o



All the best with your job hunt!! :y :y :y

Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: ascona boy on 26 June 2009, 20:45:20
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Despite the company I worked for making £1.8 million profit a month, which was 30% lower than plan, they decided to make me and 44 other people redundant. 

Because I have saved money for my kids to go to university, I'm apparently not entitled to much in the way of benefits until I've spent it, but apparently If I spend it on paying off the mortgage that will be treated as benefit fraud, so I have to spend it all on living, at which point I'll be entitled to benefits and they might just pay the interest on my mortgage (which I could actually pay off!!). 

Anyway I digress, here's my details

http://www.linkedin.com/in/markjacksonasconaattitude

If you know anyone that wants someone for a 1 month contract or more doing Lean or six sigma or supplier development.

Damm I came to omega owners dot com to buy an omega - still might if I can find a good one as that is allowed by d-SS rules, not to complain about my problems  :o



All the best with your job hunt!! :y :y :y


You must have sent me vibes !!! I had to go to work and hand their laptop back and 'hand-over' after 3 weeks garden leave. Took about an hour. Got a call on the way home and WOOOOOOWHOOOOOOO! I've got a job. 100 miles from home, 50 week contract.  Yesterday we are working out how to pay for 2 new tyres and today I'm looking for B&B in a town miles away and investigating forming a limited company.
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 June 2009, 22:42:59
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Despite the company I worked for making £1.8 million profit a month, which was 30% lower than plan, they decided to make me and 44 other people redundant. 

Because I have saved money for my kids to go to university, I'm apparently not entitled to much in the way of benefits until I've spent it, but apparently If I spend it on paying off the mortgage that will be treated as benefit fraud, so I have to spend it all on living, at which point I'll be entitled to benefits and they might just pay the interest on my mortgage (which I could actually pay off!!). 

Anyway I digress, here's my details

http://www.linkedin.com/in/markjacksonasconaattitude

If you know anyone that wants someone for a 1 month contract or more doing Lean or six sigma or supplier development.

Damm I came to omega owners dot com to buy an omega - still might if I can find a good one as that is allowed by d-SS rules, not to complain about my problems  :o



All the best with your job hunt!! :y :y :y


You must have sent me vibes !!! I had to go to work and hand their laptop back and 'hand-over' after 3 weeks garden leave. Took about an hour. Got a call on the way home and WOOOOOOWHOOOOOOO! I've got a job. 100 miles from home, 50 week contract.  Yesterday we are working out how to pay for 2 new tyres and today I'm looking for B&B in a town miles away and investigating forming a limited company.


That is brilliant news AB! 8-) 8-) :y :y :y  None of us know what is around the next corner of life's journey, and things often work out cool in the end as they have for you! :-* :-* :D :D :D ;)
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: HerefordElite on 26 June 2009, 22:56:47
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It's terrible that those who actually produce something lose their jobs especially when, in the bloated Alice-in-Wonderland world of the public sector, they are still hiring people at £119k per year who have "cross-functional experience" and play a "key role in ensuring the effective integration of national, regional and local drivers"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5627849/119000-council-job-advert-attacked-for-being-written-in-gobbledegook-and-waffle.html

Oh yes, the lucky person to get the post will not do anything useful like making steel, no they will make sure "That the diversity of Kirklees is understood by all in the organisation; is valued as a strength but a strength that challenges us to respond to its complex implications; and is reflected in the career structures within the organisation."

Kirklees Council again. (I seem to recall mentioning them a short while ago - can't remember in what context though).

What a country.  >:(

It is a sure sign of the poor poor state of this country and why we got in this mess in the first place.

Somebody really has to do some work and make something to sell to make any money, you can't just sell money to make money >:(  services industry is nearly as bad, we can't all look after the money someone has to make it!!!

prime example: the largest employer in my home county (Herefordshire) is the bloody council and they're a bunch of lazy tossers >:(
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 June 2009, 08:31:52
I hope you filled the laptop with viruses
Title: Re: More Steel Jobs Go!
Post by: ascona boy on 27 June 2009, 15:54:37
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I hope you filled the laptop with viruses


No but the dvd drive stopped working about a week ago.