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Title: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Nickbat on 26 June 2009, 19:24:34
Professor Ian Gilmore, president of the Royal College of Physicians and chair of the Alcohol Health Alliance UK, said: "This study is a global wake-up call.

"We need an international framework convention for alcohol control, similar to that on tobacco, as soon as possible, to put into practice the evidence-based measures needed to reduce alcohol-related harm.

"These include increasing the price of alcohol, reducing its availability and banning advertising, and the action needs to start now."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8118475.stm

The days when you could just get on and enjoy life are fast disappearing...

 >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: MikeDundee on 26 June 2009, 19:28:00
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Professor Ian Gilmore, president of the Royal College of Physicians and chair of the Alcohol Health Alliance UK, said: "This study is a global wake-up call.

"We need an international framework convention for alcohol control, similar to that on tobacco, as soon as possible, to put into practice the evidence-based measures needed to reduce alcohol-related harm.

"These include increasing the price of alcohol, reducing its availability and banning advertising, and the action needs to start now."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8118475.stm

The days when you could just get on and enjoy life are fast disappearing...

 >:( >:( >:(

not surprised, before long you won't be able to have a beer in your own house :-X..........one rule for them another for us......................I refrain now >:(

Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Nickbat on 26 June 2009, 19:33:19
Actually, I just noticed the words "international framework convention for alcohol control". That'll be part of the New World Order, then.

Scary.  >:(
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 26 June 2009, 20:46:23
I'll have to investigate home brew
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 June 2009, 20:53:50
the govt take very high taxes from alcohol here.. >:(

I dont think they will give up for this money ;D

even if they do, I wont >:(
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Vamps on 26 June 2009, 23:16:14
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I'll have to investigate home brew

And I will set up a still........ :D :D :D
The Americans tried Prohibition and all that did was make a lot of people rich, bit like drug dealers really :(
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 26 June 2009, 23:30:00
Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Nickbat on 26 June 2009, 23:54:04
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Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]


Good post, Zulu. :y Puts things into perspective.

Whenever a government tries to impose a moral code, it is always doomed to ultimate failure.
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 27 June 2009, 00:07:22
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Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]


Good post, Zulu. :y Puts things into perspective.

Whenever a government tries to impose a moral code, it is always doomed to ultimate failure.



....and there's plenty more to come from this tawdry lot Nick  >:( - a bunch of friggin' tossers , do forgive my freedom, but I belive that they, and a fair proportion on the PLP, are taking this country to hell in a hand cart.

The sooner they're kicked out onto their financially well- padded arses, the better :y :y
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Nickbat on 27 June 2009, 00:18:28
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Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]


Good post, Zulu. :y Puts things into perspective.

Whenever a government tries to impose a moral code, it is always doomed to ultimate failure.



....and there's plenty more to come from this tawdry lot Nick  >:( - a bunch of friggin' tossers , do forgive my freedom, but I belive that they, and a fair proportion on the PLP, are taking this country to hell in a hand cart.

The sooner they're kicked out onto their financially well- padded arses, the better :y :y

Unusually frank language, Zulu, but I friggin' agree.  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 27 June 2009, 00:26:54
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Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]


Good post, Zulu. :y Puts things into perspective.

Whenever a government tries to impose a moral code, it is always doomed to ultimate failure.



....and there's plenty more to come from this tawdry lot Nick  >:( - a bunch of friggin' tossers , do forgive my freedom, but I belive that they, and a fair proportion on the PLP, are taking this country to hell in a hand cart.

The sooner they're kicked out onto their financially well- padded arses, the better :y :y

Unusually frank language, Zulu, but I friggin' agree.  ;) ;D




.....indeed Nick but to say I dislike this motley crew - with a vengeance - would be a gross understatement ;)

I've also been cheesed off with the wall to wall coverage on Sky News of the Michael Jackson death - does it warrant continuous coverage?

The mind boggles.

Also think I’ve been a bit hormonal today as well.
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 June 2009, 08:33:57
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Perhaps the following might well apply if a decision is made to take the proposals a step further ::) ::)


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiYqFXmVAFg[/media]


Can't happen here - we haven't got a government full of anti drink Nazis.

I read about the prohibition - basically caused by the nutters who left Europe because it was too tolerant
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Martin_1962 on 27 June 2009, 08:37:29
I am peed off by the incessant coverage as well - haven't had this madness since LDS.

Also prohibition now means that the big US brewers can only produce gnats pee.

Nothing wrong with MPs occasionally being worse for drink
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 27 June 2009, 09:22:19
Don't worry about any of this and all the other wacky ideas floating around under GB's Goverment, as none of it will happen as they will no longer be in office ::) ::) ::) :y :y :y :y

The Conservatives who should form the next Government believe in a relaxation of state control and interference, so all these suggested schemes will be allowed to die a natural death.  They know that the country cannot afford to reduce the tremendous tax revenues that are derived from tobacco and alcohol sales! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: mantahatch on 27 June 2009, 11:29:44
Again another struggle between the have's and have not's.

Are you aware that pre the victorians there was no such thing as porongraphy !! it was deemed by the victorians that the have not's where not intelligent enough to deal with erotica and so it was sidelined for the have not's. Now they are trying to do the same with tobacco. That done they move on to alcohol. And if they could, transport will go the same way. The have not's on public transport the have's in car's.
You see this is my communist side coming out now.

Amazing I can be a fascist on some subects and communist on others. Does that make me a liberal, ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 27 June 2009, 11:47:39
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Again another struggle between the have's and have not's.

Are you aware that pre the victorians there was no such thing as porongraphy !! it was deemed by the victorians that the have not's where not intelligent enough to deal with erotica and so it was sidelined for the have not's. Now they are trying to do the same with tobacco. That done they move on to alcohol. And if they could, transport will go the same way. The have not's on public transport the have's in car's.
You see this is my communist side coming out now.

Amazing I can be a fascist on some subects and communist on others. Does that make me a liberal, ha ha ha.


Sorry MH, but yes there was, as pornography is as old as humankind itself, but certainly known to exist in ancient Greece.  The question is what is pornography?  To various races and religions sexual depiction can be viewed either as totally acceptable, or unacceptable and known as being pornographic.  It is still individual perception, interpretation, or objectivity that rules on the final definition of whether something is pornographic or not.  That is why there have been such famous legal cases or discussions in modern times such as that surrounding Lady Chatterley's Lover , Ulysses, or many earlier 17th, 18th and 19th century publications. 8-) 8-) 8-)

You may be interested to read this:

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/470645/pornography

 ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: TheBoy on 27 June 2009, 12:30:01
I have been banging on about this for ages, frequently suggesting before the smoking ban that I was against it (even though a non smoker), as the next logical step would be banning drinking in pubs.


You could argue that 'controlling' drinking via landlords etc is better than sending it behind closed doors. I think there is a similar argument on legalising brothels.
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 27 June 2009, 16:52:40
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Again another struggle between the have's and have not's.

Are you aware that pre the victorians there was no such thing as porongraphy !! it was deemed by the victorians that the have not's where not intelligent enough to deal with erotica and so it was sidelined for the have not's. Now they are trying to do the same with tobacco. That done they move on to alcohol. And if they could, transport will go the same way. The have not's on public transport the have's in car's.
You see this is my communist side coming out now.

Amazing I can be a fascist on some subects and communist on others. Does that make me a liberal, ha ha ha.[/quote


.......I think it makes you someone who can reach his own conclusion about a range of things and can see merit in more than one given perspective - which is OK in my book :y :y
Title: Re: Yesterday tobacco, tomorrow drink...
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 27 June 2009, 16:54:41
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I have been banging on about this for ages, frequently suggesting before the smoking ban that I was against it (even though a non smoker), as the next logical step would be banning drinking in pubs.


You could argue that 'controlling' drinking via landlords etc is better than sending it behind closed doors. I think there is a similar argument on legalising brothels.



....have always thought this was worth considering TB :y :y