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Title: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 15:55:19
Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 June 2009, 16:29:06
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)

Well, we're not going to tell you :P
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Nickbat on 30 June 2009, 16:31:37
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)

The largest energy consumption comes from heating TB's bath every night. ;) :D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 16:33:47
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)

The largest energy consumption comes from heating TB's bath every night. ;) :D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well, it won't be from him burning blue LED's!! ;D ;D ;D 8-) 8-)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 16:34:11
a 24*7 system with multiple disks , coolers, UPS systems, network devices and some extra will sure spend considerable amount  :-/
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 16:35:00
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)

The largest energy consumption comes from heating TB's bath every night. ;) :D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Well, it won't be from him burning blue LED's!! ;D ;D ;D 8-) 8-)

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 June 2009, 16:35:16
Q: Why does TB only take a bath?



































A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 16:37:02
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?



































A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 June 2009, 16:38:41
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 16:39:28
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a 24*7 system with multiple disks , coolers, UPS systems, network devices and some extra will sure spend considerable amount  :-/

...................and in laywomens terms Cem??! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)   You know, I'm blonde and simple!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 June 2009, 16:39:37
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)

....and anyway, I can make my post count anything I like, being an Admin :D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 16:42:04
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a 24*7 system with multiple disks , coolers, UPS systems, network devices and some extra will sure spend considerable amount  :-/

...................and in laywomens terms Cem??! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)   You know, I'm blonde and simple!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

you are not :) :y
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 16:44:44
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a 24*7 system with multiple disks , coolers, UPS systems, network devices and some extra will sure spend considerable amount  :-/

...................and in laywomens terms Cem??! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)   You know, I'm blonde and simple!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

you are not :) :y

You know Cem I like you....a lot!! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-) :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 30 June 2009, 16:46:30
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)


........do I see the requirement for certain outer garments to be made ready Ms Zoom? ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 30 June 2009, 16:48:26
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)



.........Mmmmmm - that's very interesting ;D ;D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 17:06:36
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a 24*7 system with multiple disks , coolers, UPS systems, network devices and some extra will sure spend considerable amount  :-/

...................and in laywomens terms Cem??! ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)   You know, I'm blonde and simple!!!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) ::) :D :D ;)

you are not :) :y

You know Cem I like you....a lot!! :-* :-* :-* 8-) 8-) :y :y :y :y :y :y

 :)  :y :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 17:09:18
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)



.........Mmmmmm - that's very interesting ;D ;D

Yes, please tell more!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Auto Addict on 30 June 2009, 17:14:48
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)



.........Mmmmmm - that's very interesting ;D ;D

Yes, please tell more!! 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) :D :D ;)

 :-X
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 17:55:27
Are there any answers to be forthcoming about my original questions at the start of this thread? ::) ::) :D :D

I have signed the Official Secrets Act, and a lot of associated paperwork, so you can tell me.............I'll keep it secret!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: TheBoy on 30 June 2009, 20:04:47
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Q: Why does TB only take a bath?
A: 'course he can't fit in the shower!

post counts are in danger warning ;D

He wouldn't dare, I have caravan pictures ;)

....and anyway, I can make my post count anything I like, being an Admin :D
Thats what Mr DTM thought when I messed around with his profile  - remember the time he refused to post, when he had a I Love Rover avatar ::)

Anything is possible ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: KillerWatt on 30 June 2009, 20:34:36
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Are there any answers to be forthcoming about my original questions at the start of this thread? ::) ::) :D :D

I have signed the Official Secrets Act, and a lot of associated paperwork, so you can tell me.............I'll keep it secret!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
It really depends on the hardware as to how much can be stored, how much it cost to run, etc.

Buy yourself one of those cheap watt meter's that Maplin occasionally sell for £5 and connect all your PC periphials to it that you normally use.....it'll be an eye opener for you, trust me on that ;)
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: TheBoy on 30 June 2009, 20:56:24
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)
Lizzie Zoom - The OOF server is a virtual server, and as such doesn't exist as a physical entity.  In simplistic  terms, that means it uses little electric (that is not quite correct (far from it!), but will suffice for this discussion, unless you want to know more).

Storage wise, being a virtual machine, the disks too are virtual. So if we run low on space, I can just allocate some more, right up until I run out of physical disk space on the physical server that the virtual servers run on.  The storage requirements of the main OOF server is fairly modest (over and above the system, logfiles, etc), as it only stores text. OOF Data is in the region of 10s of Gb.  Images - avatars, buttons, icons, logos and Maintenence Guides images are stored on another server - storage for these is significantly more.

Will it go bang? It has been through a period of instability, due to the way Linux makes a mess of handling resources. We think we have overcome these for now, though we need to do a major Linux update, which will involve a rebuild, and no doubt have a new set of hurdles to jump.


Does that answer the question?
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: TheBoy on 30 June 2009, 21:00:02
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Are there any answers to be forthcoming about my original questions at the start of this thread? ::) ::) :D :D

I have signed the Official Secrets Act, and a lot of associated paperwork, so you can tell me.............I'll keep it secret!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
It really depends on the hardware as to how much can be stored, how much it cost to run, etc.

Buy yourself one of those cheap watt meter's that Maplin occasionally sell for £5 and connect all your PC periphials to it that you normally use.....it'll be an eye opener for you, trust me on that ;)
The UPS quite happily tells me the same in real biff's terms that even I can understand ;D

OOF being a VM, working out OOF's consumption is based on a lot of assumptions, and a little bit of artistic licence ;D
Title: Re: OOF Energy Requirements
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 22:57:58
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Now as most of you must know by now I know very little about the electronic workings of a computer, other than it uses binary numbers and electricity, with a habit of crashing with much work sometimes being lost!! >:( >:( ::) ::) ::)

However, some questions have been bothering me for some time now, which perhaps is aimed at the admins., or anyone really 'in the know' about computer systems:

We all keep loading more data onto the OOF, with much media linking, massive historical posts storage, along with general pictorial and written content, onto the system.  The question is how much storage can the OOF take, how much energy is used to store and maintain access, and is there a limit to what it can handle before something goes bang?!!

Please excuse me if to some of you these questions seem very naive, but my inquisitive nature means I need to know!! ::) ::) ::) :D :D :D ;) ;)
Lizzie Zoom - The OOF server is a virtual server, and as such doesn't exist as a physical entity.  In simplistic  terms, that means it uses little electric (that is not quite correct (far from it!), but will suffice for this discussion, unless you want to know more).

Storage wise, being a virtual machine, the disks too are virtual. So if we run low on space, I can just allocate some more, right up until I run out of physical disk space on the physical server that the virtual servers run on.  The storage requirements of the main OOF server is fairly modest (over and above the system, logfiles, etc), as it only stores text. OOF Data is in the region of 10s of Gb.  Images - avatars, buttons, icons, logos and Maintenence Guides images are stored on another server - storage for these is significantly more.

Will it go bang? It has been through a period of instability, due to the way Linux makes a mess of handling resources. We think we have overcome these for now, though we need to do a major Linux update, which will involve a rebuild, and no doubt have a new set of hurdles to jump.


Does that answer the question?

Thanks TB, it does totally, and I understood it all! :D :D ::) ::) :D :D :D :D :D 8-) :y