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Title: What is this spider?
Post by: Allenm on 30 June 2009, 18:21:12
What do you guys think this spider might be?  found it in my son's room.

(http://i101.photobucket.com/albums/m49/allenm_2006/SV201124.jpg)

Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Del Boy on 30 June 2009, 18:27:38
Looks like a black widow but it's probably not  :-/
There again they usually have more black than red.
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 30 June 2009, 18:31:49
Ain't got a clue but a size 10's will sort it  :y
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 18:36:04
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Looks like a black widow but it's probably not  :-/
There again they usually have more black than red.

Well it certainly looks like the type of spider (and I hate them!!!!) that I came close to in Arizona, with those red stripes, that my American friends said would bite if touched and mean a hospital trip :o :o :o

Remember, in nature very bright colours are a warning of that creatures potential danger. :P :P :P 
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Allenm on 30 June 2009, 18:36:38
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Looks like a black widow but it's probably not  :-/
There again they usually have more black than red.

I'm sure it's not a black widow, someone suggest a "false black widow" or a Grossa, but I'm not convinced
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Plomien on 30 June 2009, 18:44:15
possibly http://www.nhm.ac.uk/nature-online/life/insects-spiders/identification-guides-and-keys/spider-bites/false-widow-spider.html
but not easy to say
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Plomien on 30 June 2009, 18:50:17
think i found it
(http://www.angelfire.com/oh3/elytraandantenna/USInsects/arthropods/images/jumpingspider.jpg)
Red-striped Jumping spider
http://www.kaweahoaks.com/html/spi_phidippus_johnsoni.html
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 30 June 2009, 19:01:02
The only difference I can see with the spider you have just posted a picture of is its legs aren't red...

Perhaps he hasn't been out in the sun eh? ;D
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 30 June 2009, 20:06:12
open colors mean stay away..

I remember many years ago "someone" orange color, I killed which was nearly as big as my feet :o

I hate them also..
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Macduff on 30 June 2009, 20:10:04
Scary is what it is  :o
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: p j morgan on 30 June 2009, 20:16:58
 ;Dits a clever one to read a book like that!
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: LFF64 on 30 June 2009, 20:30:07
Even worse its only twenty odd miles down the road  :-?
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: mantahatch on 30 June 2009, 20:52:54
Is this it http://www.herpfolio.net/galleries/spiders/

Philaeus chrysops
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Allenm on 30 June 2009, 21:30:41
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Is this it http://www.herpfolio.net/galleries/spiders/

Philaeus chrysops

That's the bugger!  Cheers!

Even better, it appears to be a male, so I can stop worrying about the offspring!

OOF delivers yet again!


Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: mantahatch on 30 June 2009, 21:55:51
Reading a bit further it seams to hail from slightly warmer climbs than ours. Has anyone in the house been abroad recently ? or is it part of global warming !!!
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: jimmas on 30 June 2009, 22:40:02
deffo horrible is what that is  :y
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 23:16:47
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Reading a bit further it seams to hail from slightly warmer climbs than ours. Has anyone in the house been abroad recently ? or is it part of global warming !!!


...........bought bananas, under the flight path of airliners, or bought any textiles from India? :-? :-? :D :D ;)
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Nickbat on 30 June 2009, 23:21:21
Although included in several recent books on British and European spiders, and listed as being absent from the British Isles, there are in fact a small number of British records of the large and stunningly attractive jumping spider, Philaeus chrysops (Poda, 1761). All records have been from in and around London, and, while there is no evidence of it having established a breeding population, it is a potential colonist.

Philaeus chrysops is an epilithobiont, a species associated with open, stony and rocky habitats, occurring up to an altitude of at least 380 m (R[ch367]ži[ch269]ka, 2000). The spider has only been widely recorded in the Mediterranean region, although there are records from eastern Europe and through Asia to Japan. The spider occurs through much of France, but is rare outside the south. It is rare in Poland and threatened with extinction and red-listed in Germany.

David Nellist was sent a male P. chrysops which had been collected on 18th June 1992 in the front garden of a house on the Cassiobury Estate, about 2 km west of Watford town centre (TQ095975). It appears that the specimen had been spotted just at the edge of the drive in front of the house, and that the car which occupied the drive had recently returned from the south of France. It was concluded that the specimen had hitched a lift and then dropped off onto the drive.


From PDF Newsletter of britishspiders.org. Link: http://www.britishspiders.org.uk/srs/srs48.pdf

Evidently quite rare in the UK  ;) 
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 30 June 2009, 23:36:29
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Although included in several recent books on British and European spiders, and listed as being absent from the British Isles, there are in fact a small number of British records of the large and stunningly attractive jumping spider, Philaeus chrysops (Poda, 1761). All records have been from in and around London, and, while there is no evidence of it having established a breeding population, it is a potential colonist.

Philaeus chrysops is an epilithobiont, a species associated with open, stony and rocky habitats, occurring up to an altitude of at least 380 m (R[ch367]ži[ch269]ka, 2000). The spider has only been widely recorded in the Mediterranean region, although there are records from eastern Europe and through Asia to Japan. The spider occurs through much of France, but is rare outside the south. It is rare in Poland and threatened with extinction and red-listed in Germany.

David Nellist was sent a male P. chrysops which had been collected on 18th June 1992 in the front garden of a house on the Cassiobury Estate, about 2 km west of Watford town centre (TQ095975). It appears that the specimen had been spotted just at the edge of the drive in front of the house, and that the car which occupied the drive had recently returned from the south of France. It was concluded that the specimen had hitched a lift and then dropped off onto the drive.


From PDF Newsletter of britishspiders.org. Link: http://www.britishspiders.org.uk/srs/srs48.pdf

Evidently quite rare in the UK  ;) 


A very interesting link Nick 8-) 8-) :y :y :y

It is indeed a Philaeus chrysopsand it is fascinating that the author states the following, with especially the reference to climate change:

"While perhaps an unlikely colonist, it does occur at the
same latitudes as Southern England in Eastern Europe
(Prószy[ch324]ski, 1976), and in Lithuania at 54°23’N, 25°09’E,
at the same latitude as Northern England (Rëlys, 2000).
Considering how many species in other taxa are now
spreading North and expanding their range as a result of
climate change
, we should not be too surprised should it
succeed in persisting through the English winter."

Trouble is I dislike them intensely, and just hope I am not around when Tarantulas start thriving in Southern England!!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 30 June 2009, 23:41:25
May I introduce you to this chap Ms Zoom?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbuysNGLOM[/media]
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 July 2009, 00:15:58
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May I introduce you to this chap Ms Zoom?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbuysNGLOM[/media]


No you f'ing cannot Zulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :P :P :P :P :P

I will not even start the video; I want to sleep tonight! ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;) ;)
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Vamps on 01 July 2009, 00:23:23
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May I introduce you to this chap Ms Zoom?


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxbuysNGLOM[/media]


No you f'ing cannot Zulu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o :o :o :P :P :P :P :P

I will not even start the video; I want to sleep tonight! ::) ::) :D :D :D :D ;) ;)

I didn't look either......... ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: crazyjoetavola on 01 July 2009, 00:23:53
Here's a couple of wee tunes that will ease the way to sleep , Ms Zoom..........


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERnT1X9HPw[/media]



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du22wApJqvs[/media]


Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 01 July 2009, 10:57:47
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Here's a couple of wee tunes that will ease the way to sleep , Ms Zoom..........


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ERnT1X9HPw[/media]



[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du22wApJqvs[/media]




Thanks Zulu, Blackbird sent me nicely to sleep! :-* :-* :-* :-*

No thoughts of those other horrible, evil, things!! 8-) 8-) 8-) :y :y :y
Title: Re: What is this spider?
Post by: Tony H on 01 July 2009, 14:01:40
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Although included in several recent books on British and European spiders, and listed as being absent from the British Isles, there are in fact a small number of British records of the large and stunningly attractive jumping spider, Philaeus chrysops (Poda, 1761). All records have been from in and around London, and, while there is no evidence of it having established a breeding population, it is a potential colonist.

Philaeus chrysops is an epilithobiont, a species associated with open, stony and rocky habitats, occurring up to an altitude of at least 380 m (R[ch367]ži[ch269]ka, 2000). The spider has only been widely recorded in the Mediterranean region, although there are records from eastern Europe and through Asia to Japan. The spider occurs through much of France, but is rare outside the south. It is rare in Poland and threatened with extinction and red-listed in Germany.

David Nellist was sent a male P. chrysops which had been collected on 18th June 1992 in the front garden of a house on the Cassiobury Estate, about 2 km west of Watford town centre (TQ095975). It appears that the specimen had been spotted just at the edge of the drive in front of the house, and that the car which occupied the drive had recently returned from the south of France. It was concluded that the specimen had hitched a lift and then dropped off onto the drive.


From PDF Newsletter of britishspiders.org. Link: http://www.britishspiders.org.uk/srs/srs48.pdf

Evidently quite rare in the UK  ;) 
Even rarer with Daz's size 10 on it's napper!