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Title: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 09:50:49
this has been bugging me for a bit now
i get told different things by different people

when ann pass's her test has she by law got to have those P plates or green L plates on her car for a certain time and is she resticted from going on motorways etc for a certain lentgh of time :question :question
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Jimbob on 16 July 2009, 10:03:19
No, and I have heard reports of people showing those being bullied on the road as they know you cant drive.


A great idea in principal, but i wouldnt use them
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:04:36
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No, and I have heard reports of people showing those being bullied on the road as they know you cant drive.


A great idea in principal, but i wouldnt use them

so no stupid laws about them :-/
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Jimbob on 16 July 2009, 10:05:21
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No, and I have heard reports of people showing those being bullied on the road as they know you cant drive.


A great idea in principal, but i wouldnt use them

so no stupid laws about them :-/


No

not yet anyway
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:07:01
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No, and I have heard reports of people showing those being bullied on the road as they know you cant drive.


A great idea in principal, but i wouldnt use them

so no stupid laws about them :-/


No

not yet anyway

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

we should all stick p plates on our migs and drive really slow untill someone trys over taking us then floor it ;D
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 July 2009, 10:10:46
There is no legal requirement for them to be used. It's personal preference. I'm 19, passed my test 1 year and 9 months ago...I never used them. Only one of my friends used them, and she only had them on her car for 3 days or so. It depends how confident she is, in theory it tells other road users to be mindful that it's not an experienced driver. But as you know, there are idiots out there who don't care.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:12:33
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There is no legal requirement for them to be used. It's personal preference. I'm 19, passed my test 1 year and 9 months ago...I never used them. Only one of my friends used them, and she only had them on her car for 3 days or so. It depends how confident she is, in theory it tells other road users to be mindful that it's not an experienced driver. But as you know, there are idiots out there who don't care.

and plenty of idiots that cant even drive even after passing there test years ago
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: joshwyatt on 16 July 2009, 10:18:20
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There is no legal requirement for them to be used. It's personal preference. I'm 19, passed my test 1 year and 9 months ago...I never used them. Only one of my friends used them, and she only had them on her car for 3 days or so. It depends how confident she is, in theory it tells other road users to be mindful that it's not an experienced driver. But as you know, there are idiots out there who don't care.

and plenty of idiots that cant even drive even after passing there test years ago

Too true unfortunately, I'm amazed how some people are still alive by their driving. It does annoy me somewhat that young men (me) are considered the absolute worst drivers. I've never had an accident, no points nothing at all...and yes you gat this idiotic chav people who race in those pathetic little tin boxes. It's all their fault. And there are so many other people out there, all ages male or female who are bleeding awful drivers. Anyway, mustn't go off a rant :)
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:22:08
there are also many people that are driving around with no insurance or no liecence

i know to one person that i am keeping a very close eye on
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: LFF64 on 16 July 2009, 10:28:33
I think they are a good idea , it does show it is a new driver and  I do give them more time and patience .
Also it makes you wary that they could just do something silly because they are nevrous or just scared and panicing
 Oh and good luck to Ann for the test of course  :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 16 July 2009, 10:49:54
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this has been bugging me for a bit now
i get told different things by different people

when ann pass's her test has she by law got to have those P plates or green L plates on her car for a certain time and is she resticted from going on motorways etc for a certain lentgh of time :question :question



........they have the 'R' plate system over in Northern Ireland where a newly qualified driver must display an 'R' in the same plate dimensions and colour as that of an 'L' plate.

These plates have to be permanently attached to the front and rear of any vehicle that the newly qualified driver has use of for a period of 1 year from the date of the successful test.

The new driver is also restricted to a speed of 45 mph - hence 'R' -  but so is any driver of such a vehicle displaying these plates - even qualified ones.



Does it work? - in general, for a few short weeks.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:54:42
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this has been bugging me for a bit now
i get told different things by different people

when ann pass's her test has she by law got to have those P plates or green L plates on her car for a certain time and is she resticted from going on motorways etc for a certain lentgh of time :question :question



........they have the 'R' plate system over in Northern Ireland where a newly qualified driver must display an 'R' in the same plate dimensions and colour as that of an 'L' plate.

These plates have to be permanently attached to the front and rear of any vehicle that the newly qualified driver has use of for a period of 1 year from the date of the successful test.

The new driver is also restricted to a speed of 45 mph - hence 'R' -  but so is any driver of such a vehicle displaying these plates - even qualified ones.



Does it work? - in general, for a few short weeks.

won't be long before they bring that over here
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Ghost on 16 July 2009, 10:54:45
It makes you a geet big target for the idiots on the road wich in affect will damage the confedence of the new driver. I would not put them on any car.
as for motorway driving if they have passed there test then they are allowed to use all public roads without any restrictions.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 10:56:02
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It makes you a geet big target for the idiots on the road wich in affect will damage the confedence of the new driver. I would not put them on any car.
as for motorway driving if they have passed there test then they are allowed to use all public roads without any restrictions.

i have said once she has passed her test that she should see her driving instructor about have a motorway lesson :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Chris_H on 16 July 2009, 11:37:32
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It makes you a geet big target for the idiots on the road wich in affect will damage the confedence of the new driver. I would not put them on any car.
as for motorway driving if they have passed there test then they are allowed to use all public roads without any restrictions.

i have said once she has passed her test that she should see her driving instructor about have a motorway lesson :y
There have been a few 'optional' signs to warn off following drivers over the years: "Running in. Please Pass" if you've just had work done on the engine; "Disk brakes" to tell you not to follow too closely; and "Child on board" to warn that the driver is paying no attention whatsoever to the road and will shortly be parking on the pavement over school markings.

As for motorway driving, that is quite a subtle one.  The first time I took my daughter on the motorway as a preparation for her first long journey, she changed lanes as if she was doing 25mph (abruptly).  A trained adviser would be a very good idea.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: going crazy on 16 July 2009, 12:09:20
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It makes you a geet big target for the idiots on the road wich in affect will damage the confedence of the new driver. I would not put them on any car.
as for motorway driving if they have passed there test then they are allowed to use all public roads without any restrictions.

i have said once she has passed her test that she should see her driving instructor about have a motorway lesson :y
There have been a few 'optional' signs to warn off following drivers over the years: "Running in. Please Pass" if you've just had work done on the engine; "Disk brakes" to tell you not to follow too closely; and "Child on board" to warn that the driver is paying no attention whatsoever to the road and will shortly be parking on the pavement over school markings.

As for motorway driving, that is quite a subtle one.  The first time I took my daughter on the motorway as a preparation for her first long journey, she changed lanes as if she was doing 25mph (abruptly).  A trained adviser would be a very good idea.


Pass plus may not be a bad idea - considering it will pay for itself if you get the right insurance company.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: LFF64 on 16 July 2009, 12:59:59
Maybe motorway driving should be part of the test then obviously there are alot of people out there who do not know how to drive on motorways .
Or maybe even a seperate test after the main test that is just for motorway driving  :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 16 July 2009, 13:01:54
I think the law states that you have to hang old tyres around the side ala a tug boat and place big flashing lights on the roof to warn other drivers  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 13:42:14
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It makes you a geet big target for the idiots on the road wich in affect will damage the confedence of the new driver. I would not put them on any car.
as for motorway driving if they have passed there test then they are allowed to use all public roads without any restrictions.

i have said once she has passed her test that she should see her driving instructor about have a motorway lesson :y
There have been a few 'optional' signs to warn off following drivers over the years: "Running in. Please Pass" if you've just had work done on the engine; "Disk brakes" to tell you not to follow too closely; and "Child on board" to warn that the driver is paying no attention whatsoever to the road and will shortly be parking on the pavement over school markings.

As for motorway driving, that is quite a subtle one.  The first time I took my daughter on the motorway as a preparation for her first long journey, she changed lanes as if she was doing 25mph (abruptly).  A trained adviser would be a very good idea.

the driving instructor her uses will charge the cost of 2 hours and do a 2 hour lesson on the motorway
ive already spoke to her instructor and he said as soon as she passes he will gladly take her for a motrway lesson :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 13:44:21
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I think the law states that you have to hang old tyres around the side ala a tug boat and place big flashing lights on the roof to warn other drivers  ;D ;D ;D ;D :y

we are talking about driving here not sailing ;D ;D ;D ;D

it is a good idea tho  a few tyres round the car
bumper cars on the road :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: nick v6 on 16 July 2009, 13:45:56
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Maybe motorway driving should be part of the test then obviously there are alot of people out there who do not know how to drive on motorways .
Or maybe even a seperate test after the main test that is just for motorway driving  :y

i fully agree
when i past my test my driving instructor picked me up the following day and made me drive for 3 hours on the motorway

i never had to pay for it he had to pick up some stuff off ebay member i think and made me do the driving :y
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: HolyCount on 16 July 2009, 15:13:39
The instructor who taught my ex ( brave man indeed) always took his pupils on an hour or so's drive free of charge after passing, making sure they did a spell on the motorway ( luckily we have one handy), in and out of a petrol forecourt a couple of times and around the local multi-storey car parks.
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2009, 18:05:08
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this has been bugging me for a bit now
i get told different things by different people

when ann pass's her test has she by law got to have those P plates or green L plates on her car for a certain time and is she resticted from going on motorways etc for a certain lentgh of time :question :question



........they have the 'R' plate system over in Northern Ireland where a newly qualified driver must display an 'R' in the same plate dimensions and colour as that of an 'L' plate.

These plates have to be permanently attached to the front and rear of any vehicle that the newly qualified driver has use of for a period of 1 year from the date of the successful test.

The new driver is also restricted to a speed of 45 mph - hence 'R' -  but so is any driver of such a vehicle displaying these plates - even qualified ones.



Does it work? - in general, for a few short weeks.
I got caught going quite a bit faster than 45mph when I had my R plates on,I had them extended from 12 to 18 months,so when I got The Chevette HS I should have displayed R plates for the first few months of ownership,like that was ever going to happen. ::)
My opinion on motorway driving is that there should be a seperate test for it which should be very stringent,then the upper speed limit on motorways co uld be removed during off peak hours. 8-)
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: LFF64 on 16 July 2009, 18:18:51
Sod the speed limit my thinking is more on the lane discipline aspect I am sure so many people do not have a clue on this  >:( >:(
Title: Re: P plates or green L plates
Post by: Ian_D on 16 July 2009, 19:58:28
I know that everyone is a new driver at some point... but why have green L / P plates?

If you have passed your test.. then IMO you SHOULD be ready for the road...

If you still feel you need to warn other road users that your 'New'... then you shouldnt be on the road still.

Just my thoughts anyway.