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Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 17:48:22
I've only watched the first 20 seconds, and if that's the best a MIG can do then I'll never consider another one again because it's all over the place.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2009, 17:51:14
1st comment in the the replies to the vid.


i was there that day and you[ch65279] were da best der all the skylines and the silivias counldnt keep up wit ya fair play to ya
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 July 2009, 17:58:52
WTF? What video?  ::)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2009, 18:01:09
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh4rrAh1C_w[/media]
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2009, 18:01:37
Dunno why the OP deleted it.
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Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 July 2009, 18:04:15
Probably didn't like the reply at the top of this page!  ::)
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Post by: albitz on 16 July 2009, 18:17:54
Has deleted himself as well unfortunately,another one bites the dust. :(
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 16 July 2009, 18:18:54
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Has deleted himself as well unfortunately,another one bites the dust. :(

Wierd or what?
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2009, 18:22:00
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I've only watched the first 20 seconds, and if that's the best a MIG can do then I'll never consider another one again because it's all over the place.
Dont think I would post a comment as strong as that ,unless I posted some footage of myself doing it better. ;)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 18:28:15
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Dont think I would post a comment as strong as that ,unless I posted some footage of myself doing it better. ;)
I know what you mean, but take a look at the video.
All it is, is somebody flooring a big, heavy, RWD car while cornering and it's obvious whoever is at the controls isn't fully in control of what's happening.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 July 2009, 18:47:46
Maybe his first time. Everyone has to start somewhere and I didn't think it looked that bad!

I assume you will be posting a video showing us how its done?  ::)
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Post by: Darth Loo-knee on 16 July 2009, 18:52:07
I must admit 20watt I don't think I could do it  :-?
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 18:53:37
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I assume you will be posting a video showing us how its done?  ::)
I'll be up in Manc next month, so lets meet up and I'll take you round Afghanistan Ancoats in your MIG and I'll quite happily show you how it's done  ;)

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I must admit 20watt I don't think I could do it  :-?
The powerslide part is easy Darth, it's keeping it pointed where you want it to go while the taps are open that can get difficult (especially for the youngsters who don't know how a RWD will react).
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Jimbob on 16 July 2009, 18:56:05
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I must admit 20watt I don't think I could do it  :-?


We know you couldnt even handle being in the car  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Nickbat on 16 July 2009, 18:58:20
I think he did well to get a big heavy car round the circuit like that. Not my sort of thing (couldn't afford the tyres for one thing), but a good display of car control, IMHO.  :y :y
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Post by: ScottieMV6 on 16 July 2009, 19:02:41
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I assume you will be posting a video showing us how its done?  ::)
I'll be up in Manc next month, so lets meet up and I'll take you round Afghanistan Ancoats in your MIG and I'll quite happily show you how it's done  ;)

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I must admit 20watt I don't think I could do it  :-?
The powerslide part is easy Darth, it's keeping it pointed where you want it to go while the taps are open that can get difficult (especially for the youngsters who don't know how a RWD will react).

As tempting as it sounds to go to Ancoats  :o I don't need showing how!  ;)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: STMO999 on 16 July 2009, 19:04:38
If you want to lose control of the rear end of an omega, try going round a roundabout in the wet. You needn't go very fast. Just to make it more interesting, put cheap tyres on.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: albitz on 16 July 2009, 19:13:04
A big heavy car on a very tight circuit,I dont think the bloke did badly really,Omegas are a ponderous big lump and getting one to change direction quickly isnt that easy.He may not be a budding Colin mcrae but then again not many people are.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Elite Pete on 16 July 2009, 19:15:59
I've got to agree with Albs, whoever it was driving did quite a good job, considering.
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Post by: Ian_D on 16 July 2009, 19:48:47
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If you want to lose control of the rear end of an omega, try going round a roundabout in the wet. You needn't go very fast. Just to make it more interesting, put cheap tyres on.
I've had the odd play here and there when its wet, but I find the Omega VERY unpredictable  :-/ Maybe its just me? I guess it would help if I was in a manual too, as often the mig decides to change half way through, and thats when it goes wrong... well either that, or i bottle it and abandon job! ;D :-[
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: STMO999 on 16 July 2009, 19:49:52
Just had a look at the vid. That was good and he got better with each circuit (until he lost it at the end). I'd be very happy if I could manage that.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Big Fra on 16 July 2009, 19:52:21
Seems like good drifting to me, considering that, with a change of wheels, it could quite happily drive away from the track, pick the kids up from school, then go to the supermarket for the weekly shop.

Or to put it bluntly, not a purpose designed track weapon!

The Omega could be turned rather easily onto a great drift machine.
You could certainly ask the chap on here who drifts an ex-plod Mig, I'm sure if he thought it was garbage he wouldn't be using it now, would he? :-?
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Omega man 2 on 16 July 2009, 19:55:22
Controling an omega like that would require some skill. But they really are meant for going in a straight line 8-)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Ian_D on 16 July 2009, 19:55:33
Wonder if he welded the diff up like the chap did on here?
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Ghost on 16 July 2009, 20:00:24
If it snows I will give it a go, I love doing stuff like that but only in the snow ( not as much damage to the Wallet tyres)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 July 2009, 20:02:06
tried similiar with the tc off , Omega not that bad even with auto ..and not all over the place compared to its weight..

a 3.0 or 3.2 with manual and some mods can definitely make better..

of course its not designed for drift.. but can do it as seen..
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Lazydocker on 16 July 2009, 20:35:43
Personally I thought he did very well :y :y :y

Pity some people are downright rude with the comments really as a bit of constructive criticism from someone with more experience would have gone a long way ::) ::) ::)

So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 20:39:07
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

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Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: STMO999 on 16 July 2009, 20:45:41
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)

Kathmandu, 10pm, next Thursday.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Ian_D on 16 July 2009, 20:48:47
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)

Kathmandu, 10pm, next Thursday.
I will bring my camera then!  ;D
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 July 2009, 20:49:18
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)

Kathmandu, 10pm, next Thursday.

 ;D :y
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 July 2009, 20:55:05
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)

logically wrong statement..

seen many expert mechanics of which are better in some jobs than the others.. and others in some areas superior to you do not proove you are not an expert ;)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: TheBoy on 16 July 2009, 20:55:44
I suspect most of those who claim to be able to do drastically better have an ego far larger than their capabilities

Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Gareth Lewis on 16 July 2009, 21:25:57
Sorry Killer but you are being much too hard on this guy. :o

That is a very heavy car and having been a co-driver in a number of rallys (in the late 80's / early 90's) I can tell you from experience (though not an expert ;)) that he is doing remarkably well considering the track & car limitations. :y :y

Got to go - train to Kathmandu leaves in 10 minutes! ;D ;D

Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 21:32:10
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logically wrong statement..
It's not logically wrong at all Cem.
The day that one particular individual cannot be "outdone" (I use that term loosely) by another is the day the development of the human race ceases.

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I can tell you from experience (though not an expert ;)) that he is doing remarkably well considering the track & car limitations. :y :y
It never said it was bad Gareth, but it wasn't anything to write home about either.
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Post by: Omega man 2 on 16 July 2009, 21:36:25
Although it is a big heavy car. If you complain about the handling of any car it means your not good enough. :-X

Here's how its done :y
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-BmD8B3Iw[/media]
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: KillerWatt on 16 July 2009, 21:42:30
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Here's how its done :y http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV-BmD8B3Iw
That's exactly how powersliding is done Ron  :y
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 16 July 2009, 21:42:55
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logically wrong statement..
It's not logically wrong at all Cem.
The day that one particular individual cannot be "outdone" (I use that term loosely) by another is the day the development of the human race ceases.

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I can tell you from experience (though not an expert ;)) that he is doing remarkably well considering the track & car limitations. :y :y
It never said it was bad Gareth, but it wasn't anything to write home about either.

being an expert is not independent of time variable , of course..as a human you can be expert for a limited time period unless you are immortal..

but the subject you mention is a bit different..
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: doog on 16 July 2009, 22:27:44
I think he done extremly well given the large nature of the car and the type of track he was on

perhaps a bit unfair some of the comments

Doug
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Post by: BigAl on 16 July 2009, 23:59:22
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)
I believe you're terminology is wrong, just because someone is better than you, does not nullify your status as an 'expert', it just rules out your claim to be the 'best'.
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: zippo on 17 July 2009, 00:36:29
So he lacked a bit of finesse, Precision will come with practice
A big underpowered car (for that type of thing) and probably his road car so not set up for a tight track
   If you watch the Dukes of Hazard clip again whys only the traffic island wet .Its the same for most of the other stunts /trick driving, wet/damp road surface and I'd guess over inflated tyres to make it slide easier
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Post by: BigAl on 17 July 2009, 00:41:13
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So he lacked a bit of finesse, Precision will come with practice
A big underpowered car (for that type of thing) and probably his road car so not set up for a tight track
   If you watch the Dukes of Hazard clip again whys only the traffic island wet .Its the same for most of the other stunts /trick driving, wet/damp road surface and I'd guess over inflated tyres to make it slide easier
You may be a Baron - but don't diss the Dukes ;D
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: zippo on 17 July 2009, 00:45:03
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So he lacked a bit of finesse, Precision will come with practice
A big underpowered car (for that type of thing) and probably his road car so not set up for a tight track
   If you watch the Dukes of Hazard clip again whys only the traffic island wet .Its the same for most of the other stunts /trick driving, wet/damp road surface and I'd guess over inflated tyres to make it slide easier
You may be a Baron - but don't diss the Dukes ;D
can i at least diss Daisey  Cant tell you how many dreams Ive had over Daisey Duke  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Pete Elite on 17 July 2009, 01:47:08
From what i saw all i can say is "Bloody good bloke" :y.

 And as is true in most spheres of being the best, there's plenty in the cemetery who thought so  :(.
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Post by: zippo on 17 July 2009, 02:12:53
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From what i saw all i can say is "Bloody good bloke" :y.
 And as is true in most spheres of being the best, there's plenty in the cemetery who thought so  :(.

i bet he had aching arms the day after ,power steering fitted or not
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: MikeDundee on 17 July 2009, 07:24:19
Well personally I think the bloke done fine :y,
I probably could'nt do what he has done, never tried it, and probably could'nt without being shown how too, and unless you can do a better job than what he has done, then I think your wrong to be slating the driving ::)
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 17 July 2009, 10:30:34
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I must admit 20watt I don't think I could do it  :-?


If you did then you would soil yourself.....the MIG handles pretty dam well!
Title: Re: inspirational video...
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 July 2009, 14:36:53
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So... Let's see the expert doing it 20 Watt :y :y
Name the time & place LD, I'll be more than happy to show anybody how to powerslide (or rather "drift", as that seems to be the buzzword these days).

PS

Nobody is an "expert" at anything in life, because there is always someone better than you  ;)
I believe you're terminology is wrong, just because someone is better than you, does not nullify your status as an 'expert', it just rules out your claim to be the 'best'.

this was the sentence that I was trying to build ;D

and its far superior to mine :-[ ..
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Post by: Debs. on 17 July 2009, 14:48:48
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this was the sentence that I was trying to build ;D

and its far superior to mine :-[ ..

 :)Too much concentration on grammatical construction might mean a 'death-sentence'! ;D

Don`t worry Cem; your written-English skills are superb! ;)
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Post by: cem_devecioglu on 17 July 2009, 14:56:29
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this was the sentence that I was trying to build ;D

and its far superior to mine :-[ ..

 :)Too much concentration on grammatical construction might mean a 'death-sentence'! ;D

Don`t worry Cem; your written-English skills are superb! ;)

Thank you Debs..You make me happy :) :y