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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Debs. on 18 July 2009, 18:26:55
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Yes, I know it`s an old image: but well worth clicking the 'larger' link and magnifying with + to look at detail.
It`s Buzz Aldrin next to the LM (Apollo 11)......I watched; slack-jawed then.....and `still in awed-wonder now.
I showed this and many new images of the lunar landing sites taken recently by the LRO http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/apollosites.html to my nephews, their response: "yeh, and....?!?!"
There is clearly not much 'wonder' left! :'(
(http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/369226main_aldrinLM_226x227.jpg)
Click for larger pic.:http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/369227main_aldrinLM_full.jpg
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I read somewhere that a modern mobile phone has more computer memory than the computer that took them to the moon! an incredible achievement to get to there !
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Quite an achievement back in the day, 1969? 8-)
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Well the alliens of course that the yanks had already made friends with!! ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Well the alliens of course that the yanks had already made friends with!! ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
I knew ET is real and everyone said I was mad [smiley=evil.gif]
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Well the alliens of course that the yanks had already made friends with!! ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
I knew ET is real and everyone said I was mad [smiley=evil.gif]
Yes, like you GD I know he is real. I saw him at the cinema once, so I know its true and we are not both mad! 8-) 8-) 8-) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Well the alliens of course that the yanks had already made friends with!! ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Don't telll anyone -- but it was the Russians who had already arrived first !!!
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Well the alliens of course that the yanks had already made friends with!! ::) ::) ::)
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;) ;)
Don't telll anyone -- but it was the Russians who had already arrived first !!!
;D ;D ;D ;D :y
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I read somewhere that a modern mobile phone has more computer memory than the computer that took them to the moon! an incredible achievement to get to there !
Bloody hell, yes. Even the old early 1980s home micros (Spectrums, BBCs, Commodores etc) were 100s of times more powerful.
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It just shows how accurate the models made on Blue Peter are. ::)
Going by that photo, a few sheets of tin foil in different colours, some dark grey canvass, several somewhat creased sections of thin sheet metal and a couple of funnels sprayed silver is all that is required for a lunar landing.
Methinks NASA should have let the 40 anniversary slide by as quietly as possible.
The credibility is wearing thinner and thinner.
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The question is If niel armstong was the first man on the moon Who held the Camera? :-/
Something I wondered for years. Apparently on the leg of the LEM - seems further away due to focal length
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought everyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought eveyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
WARNING!!!! can of debate worms about to be opened ::)
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought everyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
Caught part of a programme talking about that today, some interesting questions were being asked.... :-/
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought eveyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
WARNING!!!! can of debate worms about to be opened ::)
How can anyone believe they landed on the moon in that bacofoil and sheet metal charabanc ?
I would love to be proven wrong. It's one of the first things I remember watching on TV (I was 5 years old), but just look at it. It's not even as believable as something Gerry Anderson would have built.
I don't think they could do it these days either.
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought eveyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
WARNING!!!! can of debate worms about to be opened ::)
How can anyone believe they landed on the moon in that bacofoil and sheet metal charabanc ?
I would love to be proven wrong. It's one of the first things I remember watching on TV (I was 5 years old), but just look at it. It's not even as believable as something Gerry Anderson would have built.
I don't think they could do it these days either.
http://radicalfilms.co.uk/2008/01/26/sky-at-night-moon-hoax-debunked-by-patrick-moore/
Job done. :y :y
Sir Patrick Moore. No one can doubt his integrity or knowledge of astronomy.
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought eveyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
WARNING!!!! can of debate worms about to be opened ::)
How can anyone believe they landed on the moon in that bacofoil and sheet metal charabanc ?
I would love to be proven wrong. It's one of the first things I remember watching on TV (I was 5 years old), but just look at it. It's not even as believable as something Gerry Anderson would have built.
I don't think they could do it these days either.
Agreed :y
As I understand it the Americans would have done ANYTHING to be first there, including staging it in a hollywood basement! :y
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They didnt land on the moon,it was a film set in LA,thought eveyone knew that. ::)
:D ;D
WARNING!!!! can of debate worms about to be opened ::)
How can anyone believe they landed on the moon in that bacofoil and sheet metal charabanc ?
I would love to be proven wrong. It's one of the first things I remember watching on TV (I was 5 years old), but just look at it. It's not even as believable as something Gerry Anderson would have built.
I don't think they could do it these days either.
http://radicalfilms.co.uk/2008/01/26/sky-at-night-moon-hoax-debunked-by-patrick-moore/
Job done. :y :y
Sir Patrick Moore. No one can doubt his integrity or knowledge of astronomy.
:( Thought we were going to see proof then. Instead we got the usual "Maybe due to" "Possibly caused by"..."Sometimes happens" answers that we've had before.
I really would be happy to see it proven true, in fact, I'd be over the moon :D
(not meant as doubting Sir Patrick, he's just asking the questions.)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
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But they must have landed on the moon-i saw it on the telly!!,reminds me of the film"capricorn one" hoax mission to mars iirc
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Of course they landed on the moon!
The sad thing is that its 40 years since we were on our way (it was launched on the 16th we didn't get there until the 20th) and we have not been back since 1972.
I guess the night life must have been shite!
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Of course they landed on the moon!
The sad thing is that its 40 years since we were on our way (it was launched on the 16th we didn't get there until the 20th) and we have not been back since 1972.
I guess the night life must have been shite!
Yeah, the clubs are lousy...no atmosphere.
;D
I'll get my coat. :-[
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
We've seen amazing images of stars and galaxies millions of light years away, yet that is the best they can do of "something" apparently on the surface of the moon. :-?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
We've seen amazing images of stars and galaxies millions of light years away, yet that is the best they can do of "something" apparently on the surface of the moon. :-?
Yes because that is due to that "something", the Lunar landing unit, being like a needle on the surface of the moon, with the shadows of it the main feature.
But the stars can be hundreds of thousands miles wide and the galaxies millions / billions of miles in size. With the Hubble telescope these can be readily seen ;) ;)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
We've seen amazing images of stars and galaxies millions of light years away, yet that is the best they can do of "something" apparently on the surface of the moon. :-?
Yes because that is due to that "something", the Lunar landing unit, being like a needle on the surface of the moon, with the shadows of it the main feature.
But the stars can be hundreds of thousands miles wide and the galaxies millions / billions of miles in size. With the Hubble telescope these can be readily seen ;) ;)
..and millions of light years away.
The LRO's primary mission orbit in August will be 31 miles above the surface of the moon.
So we can all look forward to even be able see the stitching on the flag at that range. Unless it's blown away.
Well, it did look a bit windy the way it was flapping about in the footage I've seen. ;)
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
We've seen amazing images of stars and galaxies millions of light years away, yet that is the best they can do of "something" apparently on the surface of the moon. :-?
Yes because that is due to that "something", the Lunar landing unit, being like a needle on the surface of the moon, with the shadows of it the main feature.
But the stars can be hundreds of thousands miles wide and the galaxies millions / billions of miles in size. With the Hubble telescope these can be readily seen ;) ;)
..and millions of light years away.
The LRO's primary mission orbit in August will be 31 miles above the surface of the moon.
So we can all look forward to even be able see the stitching on the flag at that range. Unless it's blown away.
Well, it did look a bit windy the way it was flapping about in the footage I've seen. ;)
How right you are Turk, with just one light year being 9.5 million million killometers or about 6 million million miles, the speed of a ray of light in one year ;) ;)
Extreme distances that will take at least a warp driven Star Ship Enterprise to transverse in a life time of a human 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-).
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Talking of Hubble... why does it not give us pictures of the footprints on the moon, and perhaps a pile of poo behind a nearby rock? Oh, and a discarded crisp packet?
Conspiracy theory starting to seem realistic!
Caption for OP picture? "Okay guys, un-hide the door!" ;D
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Talking of Hubble... why does it not give us pictures of the footprints on the moon, and perhaps a pile of poo behind a nearby rock? Oh, and a discarded crisp packet?
Conspiracy theory starting to seem realistic!
Caption for OP picture? "Okay guys, un-hide the door!" ;D
Because Hubble is just not powerful enough to do that, but can give wonderful views of space features thousands of light years across :y :y :y.
But, as Martin Imber's link to the BBC report reveals, a Lunar space craft in close orbit CAN pick up the 1969 landing site ;) ;)
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...........and I am convinced the Americans DID land astronauts on the moon and it was a tremendous achievement, which involved not just one, but many Apollo missions.
In addition any deception would have taken one hell of a 'cover up' involving thousands of people, along with the Russians. They would have been the first to expose it, as do not forget the Russions had Lunik probes 1 - 3 circling the moon to gather information in 1959, before in 1966 they successfully landed Lunik 9 onto the surface of the moon to take samples as to the consistency of the surface.
Any subsequent "trick" by the Americans would have been quickly spotted by the very competitive USSR and exposed to the World. However, they no doubt witnessed the American landings via their Lunik space craft and, with much dismay, had to admit they had been beaten in landing a man on the moon. Any chance to belittle the USA would have been taken then, or since, but the USSR simply could not. The facts, even to the USSR in the midst of the cold war (the Cuban missile crisis had only been 7 years before), could not be disputed then, nor now. ;) ;) ;)
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Conspiracy theorists; don`t you just love`em?......their intricately
deluded constructed versions are always so much more complex and impractical than any (so-much simpler) reality. ;D
I wonder if in Jesus` time if there was a conspiracy-theorist saying that the Crucifixion was all a Jewish plot to discredit the Romans. ::)
'The people`s popular front': pah!...`splitters!!!!! ;D
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Conspiracy theorists; don`t you just love`em?......their intricately deluded constructed versions are always so much more complex and impractical than any (so-much simpler) reality. ;D
I wonder if in Jesus` time if there was a conspiracy-theorist saying that the Crucifixion was all a Jewish plot to discredit the Romans. ::)
'The people`s popular front': pah!...`splitters!!!!! ;D
I am sure that did and has continued to happen, especially as Pontius Pilate was very unhappy about crucifying Jesus and going along with the demands of the Jews ::) ::) ::).
With the moon landing, in addition to what I have already stated, it must not be forgotten Debs that Apollo 11 was followed by the landings of Apollo's 12 - 17 (ex 13 of course!), so are the conspiracists really saying that all these could be a delusion, set in some warehouse, when the Russians and the World are watching, with specimens being brought back with fully filmed module landings in the oceans??
Sorry, but the facts do not back them at all, and yes Debs as long as there is human beings and events transpiring, then conspiracies will be concocted!! ::) ::) :D :D
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To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government.
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To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government.
............along with the Russians, International, including top British, scientists, and yes the American people, all of whom would have to have been kept quiet over any conspiracy??
No sorry, as I stated earlier all that is not plausable for the reasons previously given, the Russian equation in particular!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
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The guidance computer, about 36kbytes of program 'stored' in ferrite core memory knitted by middle aged women!
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/smart-apollo-0912.cfm
Fact or fiction :-
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/fake-right-0912.cfm
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The guidance computer, about 36kbytes of program 'stored' in ferrite core memory knitted by middle aged women!
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/smart-apollo-0912.cfm
Fact or fiction :-
http://kn.theiet.org/magazine/issues/0912/fake-right-0912.cfm
Brilliant sound factual material, and added to what scientists have confirmed, like today a University Of Kent retired professor of space science who was engaged by NASA in the Apollo programme, should clearly satisfy the doubters.
The said professor worked with the moon samples and stated clearly that they could only have come from the moon, with its lack of atmosphere; they could never have been created on Earth ;) ;)
And, again remember the Russian factor! ;) ;)
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Its the Russian factor that does it for me.
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To be honest, I'm very much "on the fence" with this one. I hope that what I saw 40 years ago really was the first man on the moon, but I'll always listen to and think over other versions.
Too many folk just accept what they are shown or told is true.
I never questioned it until certain events in recent years made me realise there is no limit to what certain people will do to reach their goals, but let's get one thing clear, when people say "The Americans" lied about this or that, it's not American people, it's the American Government.
............along with the Russians, International, including top British, scientists, and yes the American people, all of whom would have to have been kept quiet over any conspiracy??
No sorry, as I stated earlier all that is not plausable for the reasons previously given, the Russian equation in particular!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ;)
Without being specific and opening up another can of worms, the conspiracie theories that made me realise the "no limits" factor are far more recent than man on the moon.
Anyhoo, it's 30 mins to go until it all happened, 40 years ago...apparently :D :D
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
3?! How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet?? ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
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And what about those laser reflector thingys they left behind ::)
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
3?! How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet?? ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others. Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm :-/
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? ::)
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
3?! How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet?? ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others. Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm :-/
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? ::)
No Turk Apollo 11 placed its astronauts in the highlands of Descartes in the middle south eastern section of the Earth facing side of the moon. Indeed the following landings by Apollo's 12 to 17, except 13, all landed on the Earth facing side of the Moon, hence the photo's from the Moons surface showing our half 'blue globe' ;) ;)
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
3?! How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet?? ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others. Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm :-/
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? ::)
No Turk Apollo 11 placed its astronauts in the highlands of Descartes in the middle south eastern section of the Earth facing side of the moon. Indeed the following landings by Apollo's 12 to 17, except 13, all landed on the Earth facing side of the Moon, hence the photo's from the Moons surface showing our half 'blue globe' ;) ;)
:o That makes it even more suspicious that we have no visual evidence, especially with all the high powered telescopes around today.
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Do the conspiracy theorists really expect us to believe that the Americans could do this AND then keep it secret for 40 years ??
Far too many people/agencies involved IMHO
Exactly, tens of thousands minimum, PLUS the Russians!!
Come on all, there was NO conspiracy!! :D :D :D ;)
...or just 3 astronauts and a handfull of the "powers that be". Mission Control did not have any real "control". All they could do is watch, just like the rest of us.
3?! How about the astronauts of Apollo 12 - 17 (ex 13); NASA personnel; all the external contractors; the (international) scientists, the media, the United States Navy personnel who plucked each Apollo crew from the Ocean, including the near catastrophic Apollo 13 crew, who went via a warehouse (??); etc, etc, oh, and of course the watching unfriendly Russians? ::) ::) ::) ;) ;)
You really think they could all be fooled for 40 years and everyone kept quiet?? ::) ::) ::)
;) ;)
Just refering to this "landing".
3 astronauts plus a handfull of others. Everyone else saw it from earth...the Russians included.
They definately went to the moon, they had to with the Russians watching, but the "landing"...hmm :-/
Didn't it take place conveniently on the "other side" of the moon ? ::)
No Turk Apollo 11 placed its astronauts in the highlands of Descartes in the middle south eastern section of the Earth facing side of the moon. Indeed the following landings by Apollo's 12 to 17, except 13, all landed on the Earth facing side of the Moon, hence the photo's from the Moons surface showing our half 'blue globe' ;) ;)
:o That makes it even more suspicious that we have no visual evidence, especially with all the high powered telescopes around today.
But we do:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8157368.stm
;) ;)
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They're gonna have to do better that that. What camers did they use. A Brownie ?
They'll be 31 miles above the surface in August.
Let's hope it all goes to plan and we get irrefutable proof. :y
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Someone may have mentioned this before But
I remember at the time. Being an old git, that there was a Russian space craft hanging about at the time. They must have been tracking it and I'm sure if they hadn't landed, the Russian's would have been happy to let the world know about it.
Also they were tracked by Jodrell Bank and many other ground dishes from differant countries. Why would they lie? ::)
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Someone may have mentioned this before But
I remember at the time. Being an old git, that there was a Russian space craft hanging about at the time. They must have been tracking it and I'm sure if they hadn't landed, the Russian's would have been happy to let the world know about it.
Also they were tracked by Jodrell Bank and many other ground dishes from differant countries. Why would they lie? ::)
As Neil Armstrong said last night at the Smithsonian Institute, they were way behind in the "Space Race". They desparately needed something big.
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I remember hearing, from a good source, that both the US and the Soviets were easily capable of reaching the moon, but unlike the US, the USSR at the time lacked the inertial guidance* technology which was necessary for the landing itself.
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_navigation_system#Guidance_in_Human_spaceflight
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Well ..... those who believe in the conspiracy theory won't be persuaded by whatever is posted here.. they'll just remain with heads deeply in the sand .. :(
Forget logic ... it's America .. they must be lieing .... and continuing to lie 40 years on ....... regardless of everything to the contrary.
The rest of us "normal" folks can just remember, and admire, the effort, risk and scientific endeavour that resulted in an amazing journey and some fairly amazing inventions.
My one resounding thought is always .. thank God that "Elf & Safety" had not been invented ... I honestly believe that 99% of all modern inventions would be banned if H&S had existed .... :(
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Yet the USSR had already landed an unmanned craft and obtained lunar samples.
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Well ..... those who believe in the conspiracy theory won't be persuaded by whatever is posted here.. they'll just remain with heads deeply in the sand .. :(
Forget logic ... it's America .. they must be lieing .... and continuing to lie 40 years on ....... regardless of everything to the contrary.
The rest of us "normal" folks can just remember, and admire, the effort, risk and scientific endeavour that resulted in an amazing journey and some fairly amazing inventions.
My one resounding thought is always .. thank God that "Elf & Safety" had not been invented ... I honestly believe that 99% of all modern inventions would be banned if H&S had existed .... :(
What were the inventions ?
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Yet the USSR had already landed an unmanned craft and obtained lunar samples.
Merely repeating what I'd heard. I think that landing a heavier manned capsule would have required much more technology than an unmanned probe.
But, I agree with Entwood. It is my belief that the lunar landings DID take place and no amount of evidence will persuade those who doubt it.
I think the conspiracy theory (like 9/11) is driven by anti-US emotions, IMHO. :(
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The space programme, and the moon programme gave us many things .. from non-stick pans (teflon) to amino acids (baby food) to modern trainers (shock absorbent materials) to sunglasses (reactolight lenses) plus many, many more ... a google search will list a great many ... just read this list from one site !!!
Scheduling software, semiconductors, microchips, structural analysis software, air quality monitors, virtual reality, Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, Design Graphics, Microwave ovens, enriched baby food, scratch-resistant eyeglass lenses, water purification, portable solid-state coolers/warmers, sports training, athletic shoes, Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, quartz crystal timing equipment, microspheres, weather forecasting, forest management, environmental control sensors, wind monitors, telemetry systems, plant research, Hydroponics, fire resistant materials, radiation insulation, Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, air purification, digital imaging breast biopsy system, breast cancer detection, laser angioplasty, ultrasound skin-damage assesment, human tissue stimulator, cool suit, programmable heart pacemaker, ocular screening, automated urinalysis, medical gas analyzer, voice-controlled wheelchair, Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, cataract surgery tools, magnetic liquids, welding sensor system, microlasers, magnetic bearings, plasma-sprayed engine coating, interactive multi-media training, high-pressure water stripping, advanced welding torch, Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, engine design, personal radiation detectors, Remotely-operated robot, personal alarm system, emergency rescue cutters, Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks, Lightning detectors, self-righting life rafts, Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands, studless winter tires, high-temperature composite materials, laminar airflow air purification, lightweight composite materials, improved aircraft engines, environmental-friendly lubricants, Flywheel Energy Storage system, aircraft design, Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.
For an in-depth site ... http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto
HTH :)
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Yet the USSR had already landed an unmanned craft and obtained lunar samples.
Merely repeating what I'd heard. I think that landing a heavier manned capsule would have required much more technology than an unmanned probe.
But, I agree with Entwood. It is my belief that the lunar landings DID take place and no amount of evidence will persuade those who doubt it.
I think the conspiracy theory (like 9/11) is driven by anti-US emotions, IMHO. :(
Yep, I reckon so too, just not as early as Armstrong & Co.
(It's not anti-US anyway, it's anti-Bush as far as the truth about 9/11 goes...but let's not go there again :D)
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The space programme, and the moon programme gave us many things .. from non-stick pans (teflon) to amino acids (baby food) to modern trainers (shock absorbent materials) to sunglasses (reactolight lenses) plus many, many more ... a google search will list a great many ... just read this list from one site !!!
Scheduling software, semiconductors, microchips, structural analysis software, air quality monitors, virtual reality, Advanced keyboards, Customer Service Software, Database Management System, Laser Surveying, Aircraft controls, Lightweight Compact Disc, Expert System Software, Microcomputers, Design Graphics, Microwave ovens, enriched baby food, scratch-resistant eyeglass lenses, water purification, portable solid-state coolers/warmers, sports training, athletic shoes, Dustbuster, shock-absorbing helmets, home security systems, smoke detectors, flat panel televisions, high-density batteries, trash compactors, food packaging and freeze-dried technology, cool sportswear, sports bras, hair styling appliances, fogless ski goggles, self-adjusting sunglasses, composite golf clubs, hang gliders, art preservation, quartz crystal timing equipment, microspheres, weather forecasting, forest management, environmental control sensors, wind monitors, telemetry systems, plant research, Hydroponics, fire resistant materials, radiation insulation, Whale identification method, environmental analysis, noise abatement, pollution measuring devices, pollution control devices, smokestack monitor, radioactive leak detector, earthquake prediction system, sewage treatment, energy saving air conditioning, air purification, digital imaging breast biopsy system, breast cancer detection, laser angioplasty, ultrasound skin-damage assesment, human tissue stimulator, cool suit, programmable heart pacemaker, ocular screening, automated urinalysis, medical gas analyzer, voice-controlled wheelchair, Arteriosclerosis detection, ultrasound scanners, automatic insulin pump, portable x-ray device, invisible braces, dental arch wire, palate surgery technology, clean room apparel, implantable heart aid, MRI, bone analyzer, cataract surgery tools, magnetic liquids, welding sensor system, microlasers, magnetic bearings, plasma-sprayed engine coating, interactive multi-media training, high-pressure water stripping, advanced welding torch, Gasoline vapor recovery, self-locking fasteners, machine tool software, laser wire stripper, lubricant coating process, wireless communications, engine coatings, engine design, personal radiation detectors, Remotely-operated robot, personal alarm system, emergency rescue cutters, Lighter-weight firefighter's air tanks, Lightning detectors, self-righting life rafts, Storm warning services (Doppler radar), firefighters' radios, lead poison detection, fire detector, flame detector, corrosion protection coating, protective clothing, and robotic hands, studless winter tires, high-temperature composite materials, laminar airflow air purification, lightweight composite materials, improved aircraft engines, environmental-friendly lubricants, Flywheel Energy Storage system, aircraft design, Safer bridges, emission testing, airline wheelchairs, electric car, auto design, methane-powered vehicles, windshear prediction, and aircraft design analysis.
For an in-depth site ... http://www.sti.nasa.gov/tto
HTH :)
Excellent, Cheers :y
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Well ..... those who believe in the conspiracy theory won't be persuaded by whatever is posted here.. they'll just remain with heads deeply in the sand .. :(
Forget logic ... it's America .. they must be lieing .... and continuing to lie 40 years on ....... regardless of everything to the contrary.
The rest of us "normal" folks can just remember, and admire, the effort, risk and scientific endeavour that resulted in an amazing journey and some fairly amazing inventions.
My one resounding thought is always .. thank God that "Elf & Safety" had not been invented ... I honestly believe that 99% of all modern inventions would be banned if H&S had existed .... :(
Absolutely right Entwood, inspite of all the facts that you, I and a number of others have highlighted on this thread, you will never change their resolve to deny........because it is the USA involved ::) ::) ::) ::)
Yes, we should now just celebrate a tremendous achievement by the USA and never forget that there were many western international scientists, including British ones, involved. 8-) 8-) 8-) :y
May we look forward to going again to those new frontiers of space in the near future! ;) ;) ;)
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May we look forward to going again to those new frontiers of space in the near future! ;) ;) ;)
......"To badly (or is it baldy) go where no-one has gone before!" ;D
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May we look forward to going again to those new frontiers of space in the near future! ;) ;) ;)
......"To badly (or is it baldy) go where no-one has gone before!" ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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There was a great episode of "Mythbusters" last night testing all the arguments made by the lunar conspiracy theorists. Verdict: Busted. They really did go there.
Also, stayed up far too late watching Moonwalk One on Discovery channel http://www.moonwalkone.com/.
What a shame we do things today "Not because they are easy, but because they are cheap, politically correct, in line with the latest H&S policy and stand to make us a fast buck or two".
>:(
Kevin