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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: sir moanalot on 18 July 2009, 21:28:19
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mine is offering exactly 0%. but next year is a minimum of 1%.
ill wait out on the gold wheel rims and bling front grill then.............
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In the NHS - I think the annual cost of living rise is something over 3%, plus your annual increment on your salary, it works out very generous in the current climate...
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whats a payrise i had to take a 25% paycut :( :(The rates for jobs are being screwed into the ground at the moment.with transport companies folding at alarming rates its not gonna get any better as all the big firms are quoteing silly money to get all the work so they keep going,with the small family owned firms unable to compete
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All I can say is, I am pleased my employers didn't accept my notice last year.... I am very grateful to be where I am now, even if it's not where I want to be long term.... :-X
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2.4% on top of what ever yearly rise gets negotiated which probly wont be much :-/
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Somewhere between -2.5% and -20% depending on where you are in the company >:(
In the UK, all paycuts are voluntary. If the company I work for was in trouble, or they had been good to it's employees in the good years, I may have been more flexible. But seeing as in the good years they always lied about the companies performance so as to give us poor payrises, and the fact it posted profits of several $billion last year, they have no friggin chance
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Earnings have dropped almost 50% in just over a year.now earning the same as 20 years ago. :'( :'(
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0% here and its across the board globally,
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What's a payrise?
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Whats pay? ;)
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when the good times return and companys make fat profits again they will be rewarding staff with big fat pay rises ,and not keeping it for themselves :( :(
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we all hope lol
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I work for myself. When the good times return ::), I will reward myself 8-) :y
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we were meant to get a rise in may,theyv delayed until october but cant guarantee it :(
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october which year??? lol
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Whats pay? ;)
We got a letter last November telling us of the difficult trading standards, no pay rises, blahdy blahdy blah.
We got them every year so, although everybody in the company knew we were not doing particuarly well, noone expected what happened.
In Feb/March they laid off 4 engineers (out of 20) and 4 salesmen, I was one of the engineers!!!! Haven't had a job since, can't get a job, struggling is an understatement what with 8 people living in my house.
Lost my house in May as I couldn't pay the mortgage and other debts were getting on top of me, now living in a rented one, am quite literally about to go bankrupt.
I would give my right nut not to have had a pay rise this year rather than what I ended up getting!!!
I wouldn't mind so much but my company has a history of wasting money. They are far too top heavy, and all those management bods drive £25,000+ motors. As an engineer I had a huge list of circa £19,000 motors. This simply wasn't needed, we could have all had Astra Estates. They even threw a £20,000 xmas party in January (I know in the great scheme of things that wouldn't have saved my job had they cancelled it, but it still bloody annoys me!!!)
Sorry to put a downer on this thread!
Wayne
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I think it is best to look out for yourself in these hard times.
I finished a nice painting job last Thursday. Driving home I noticed how many hedges needed trimming in our area.
Got home, changed into suitable clothes, grabbed some business cards and my diary.
Knocked on a few doors,
"Good morning, I am Sean and have noticed your hedge is a little overgrown. As I have a few days clear next week could I book you in for a trim?"
"How much mate?"
"£30, if thats okay, of course I will leave the area clean and tidy for you"
"Okay, thats a deal"
End of the day, down to Screwfix and came home with a petrol hedge trimmer.
Monday the trimmer will pay for it self. Tuesday and Wednesday is profit :y :y
Those established jobs will lead to recommendations and more work :y :y
It is hard to make the leads but they do pay off. I certainly believe in looking after ones self rather than living in the shadow of uncertainty ;) ;)
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With you on that, £25K turned into £13K earler in the year. Those getting a pay rise and moaning thats its "just not enough" make my blood boil, sorry to say >:( Just lucky I married a teacher with a nice safe salary ;)
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Nothing, diddly squat, not a sausage, but we have work all week even now & money in the bank without fail.
Could be better.........but for once i'm not complaining.
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i got nothing this year and wont for the next 2 yrs
we are being threatened with going part time
oh and before i say who i work for please dont moan at me :y
Royal Mail lol
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Don't work and got 5% in April :D
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With you on that, £25K turned into £13K earler in the year. Those getting a pay rise and moaning thats its "just not enough" make my blood boil, sorry to say >:( Just lucky I married a teacher with a nice safe salary ;)
I agree with you. What makes me angry about my company asking us to take paycuts or unpaid leave is that they are jumping on a bandwagon - if they were in trouble, I would happily be flexible, but they are not, and are still very, very profitable. OK, so profits are going to be lower than last year, so markets insist we reduce costs by a similar amount, which I could accept if wage increases would go up in line with increasing profits in the good years.
Now Mrs TB works for a motor manufacturer, and she is having to be flexible, as said company's worries are well known.
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smaller companies are just trying to survive the current economic climate . larger companies are just using it as an excuse to save money !!! national average figures show that 2% is what most larger companies COULD offer . we have just received an above average 3.3% rise , after a lot of negotiations ....
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
You're right mate . Group profits are an advantage in many respects especially groups with overseas ties who are not subject to the high taxes etc imposed in this country . But some may feel peeved that they are hitting targets but not seeing anything coming back their way .
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
Agreed. I think those companies still doing relatively well are jumping on all the money saving ideas being necessarily implemented by those in trouble.
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We have a great money saving pay system .... a few years back management agreed with the unions that employees would rise from the bottom to the top of their pay scales within 6 years.
So now, we all sit at the bottom of the scales and get an almighty pay rise in the last year !!
However, in the current climate, this might get renaged upon (which will really pee off those that are due the meteoric rise next year !!!! )
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
You're right mate . Group profits are an advantage in many respects especially groups with overseas ties who are not subject to the high taxes etc imposed in this country . But some may feel peeved that they are hitting targets but not seeing anything coming back their way .
Exactly that, some wingeing from the factory manager on our behalf fell on partially def ears, but we have to take some security in our position within the group, we will be last to go unless the whole company collapses, poor performing branches have been under the microscope for sometime.
Seems attitude is key. An understanding that any business has to make money and that trust and flexibility from all concerned can see you through.....and no small amount of luck it has to be said.
Our branch replaced a factory in Birmingham, some of the storys defy belief, production time replaced by 40 minute tea breaks 1hour paid lunch breaks that turned into 2 hours, imaginary break downs and extended set up times that left no time to make any money during a normal shift leading to over time at double the normal rate, a run away money pit. Staff refused to change and the place was closed, no suprise there and didnt they moan when out of work.
Trouble now is we have a big stick mentality from management as a legacy that current staff dont deserve, and that may well cause an issue.
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Not had a pay-rise for nearly 2 years now. I wouldn't mind so much if my boss didn't keep bragging about stuff he has spent money on (i.e. nights out/hotels, dinner out most evenings etc.) I work bloody hard and I hope he misses me when i'm gone!!!
Rant over >:(
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next to nowt here, but considering whats gone on where I work, lucky for anything, and to still be there, unlike thousands of others.
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No pay rise this year....Dont offically know yet who i`m working for after october as the contracts up and we dont think ECP/fm have got it so it might be another facilites mangement company called AEJ`S that takes over but as of yet no news...... :-/
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0% expected and say said earlier in the thread - glad to be still employed, though cannot see it as long term..
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No pay rises here.
And I certainly dont agree with minimum across the board rises....pay rises should be earned.
I would certianly be freezing all public sector rises in the currant climate.
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
I don't like saying this but if you are a large company and your little competitors are forced to make wage-cuts or freezes, then if you don't "react" you will come out of the recession un-competitive on wages.
You would have to gamble that the little ones will go bust but the ones that have managed to negotiate cuts/freezes obviously have a supportive workforce so that's not a strong argument.
It must be said that a company that sees it's workforce accept a cut/freeze is more likely to give a rise when it's possible.
Personally, I have only survived being without a proper contract for 8 months because I exercised wage restraint.
Answer to OP: Wage cut!
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If you don't get a pay rise or even take a pay cut, at least you have a job. You should yourself furtunate
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About the same as last year........break all. :( Our company had to make a few staff redundant last month and I'll be lucky if the company survives until the end of this year. :'(
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we are part of a world wide group and american owned, work load is very seasonal just coming up to the busy period, which means since the last busy period we have seen little affect so far.
Last year we where the only factory to hit and well exceed target. Unfortunately on average the group was under target, result, no pay rise. There has been no mention of profit level. Group profit level has advantages and disadvantages, but in a world wide recession i would rather have no rise today and a job tomorrow.
Having said that, i get the feeling some are using the recession as an excuse.
I don't like saying this but if you are a large company and your little competitors are forced to make wage-cuts or freezes, then if you don't "react" you will come out of the recession un-competitive on wages.
You would have to gamble that the little ones will go bust but the ones that have managed to negotiate cuts/freezes obviously have a supportive workforce so that's not a strong argument.
It must be said that a company that sees it's workforce accept a cut/freeze is more likely to give a rise when it's possible.
Personally, I have only survived being without a proper contract for 8 months because I exercised wage restraint.
Answer to OP: Wage cut!
I work for the exception to that rule - they have given us below inflation raises since we started working there. They won't even allow us on their T&Cs (as the payscale we would be on for our job role would be much higher), so stuck on special pre-TUPE T&Cs.
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Technically, also zilch, nadda, zero. As i'm self employed my wages only go up if I work more! Like Tonka i've taken to some odd jobs, and when my brother was laid off from IT support in February he was fitting kitchens, gardening and painting until he managed to finally land a new job last week. Phew!
A lot of my time I mostly work for M&B and the wages they pay us 'entertainers' are the same as in 1997. :o I'm just happy to be working at the mo'
However last week a call came for a 25% cut in the budget so all the techies lost their jobs and I was faced with a 50% cut for one nights work. Thankfully the figures were adjusted and we've just took a smaller hit. :(
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This year we are having no payrises. The company itself has gone through 2 redundancy sessions in 6 months this year alone reducing the workforce by nearly 100 people (15% workforce).
It make you wonder if changing jobs in August last year was a good idea. However, I currently have more satisfaction from the job than my previous one.
I am glad I still have a job and feel sorry for those that have lost them. It is my belief that companies have used this to trim some of the 'dead wood' from them.
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I have resorted to selling things - just got £36 for a VCR and doing repairs
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
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yep less tax paid ,they will only increase taxes >:( >:(
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Another one with the 'zero' pay rise here, I work for a charity, and money is always tight. Have not had a pay rise for the last 5 years, then it was only 'cost of living'.
charities are taking a real battering during this recession, and we merged with another charity last year. Been some 'rationalising' of the new group, but fortunately the only losses are from head office ie; duplicated jobs.
No losses from the 'shop floor' as it were, yet. I really enjoy the job itself, shame that the wages are so low.
But, as has been said by many others, at least I have a job, more than a lot of people..
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The railway company that i work for gave us 3.5% back in february, but that was part of a 2 year deal.
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It could be worse, you could be striking over a 6% offered pay rise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8159195.stm
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All I can say is, I am pleased my employers didn't accept my notice last year.... I am very grateful to be where I am now, even if it's not where I want to be long term.... :-X
Dear James
Please see me in my office at 9 o'clock in the morning to collect your cards.
Yours sincerely
The Boss
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It could be worse, you could be striking over a 6% offered pay rise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8159195.stm
:o, what are they on. They deserve to lose their jobs
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It could be worse, you could be striking over a 6% offered pay rise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8159195.stm
some people just don't seem to realise how lucky they are ... Greedy buggers >:(
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It could be worse, you could be striking over a 6% offered pay rise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8159195.stm
:o, what are they on. They deserve to lose their jobs
Agreed --- with the emphasis on "greed" !!!!
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Rumor mill is on overdrive here at work.....They might be going to a 3 man rota instead of 5 and stopping night shift altogether....If they do i`m out of a job :(
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In my job we get forgotten about when the climate is good and when the economy turns bad we are bottom of the priority list >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(
But then, I made my decision on my career.... I could still be in France working for CAP Gemini..... (Glad I am not.... ::) ::) ::) ::))
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british army a big fat 2% as always ( and then the rent goes up 3%)
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It could be worse, you could be striking over a 6% offered pay rise.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/8159195.stm
:o, what are they on. They deserve to lose their jobs
Agreed --- with the emphasis on "greed" !!!!
Ffs, greed and hold the public hostage, at a time of recession, swine flu and possible redundancy, to extort their employers who already pay then an arm and a leg. 38,500 a year? Did i read that correctly? From what i gather they already turn up when they feel like it..... Disgusting!
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Well for 08/9 the offer was eventually 2.45%, they paid 2% in November 08 backdated to April 08 and in March added the 0.45% on backdated to April 08. For this year not sure yet, they will be negotiating and as always will probably get it in November this year, which is always the case. Also had the performance related pay increase aswell.
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
How come you're down when the cost of cabs has gone up so much?1 :-/
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goverment tax is down by £32 billion
6 million drop in stamp duty
5 billlion drop in corporation tax
5 billion drop in vat
5.7 in ni contribations
i wonder how or who will make up the short fall >:(
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Sorry to bring this back to the top, but we just got our final offer. 0.5% that is better than the 0.4% originally offered, but less than the 2% we asked for. >:(
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Thats 0.5% more than the vast majority of the Uk :y
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As stated upwards, I can only be extremely, grateful, for being in the NHS at this time.
Our pay hasn't been freezed (yet)...
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
How come you're down when the cost of cabs has gone up so much?1 :-/
Not where I live they havent.....we put prices up last year.....40p on the price of the fare....when fuel prices went silly.....to try to compensate....
For example...Fri/Sat nights used to be constant trade last year every weekend.....now its once a month, on payday weekend.....so its fairly obvious people are cutting down on going out from every weekend to once a month :(
Also account customers are cutting down on cabs...for example...we have the account for one of the biggest building societies in Swindon.....one very popular run used to be between two of their buildings.....0.5 miles apart.....now they are being told to walk unless theres a good reason to call for a cab on account :(
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We got a "decent" rise of 5% in January, same as always even though the company has been making huge profits.
They have now forced unpaid leave upon us and stopped all bonuses which has effectively taken 15% back off us. The company are claiming poverty but have admitted they're much busier than normal for the time of year >:( >:( >:(
I wouldn't mind so much if they weren't making massive profits >:( >:(
That said, I do still have a job :y :y
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
How come you're down when the cost of cabs has gone up so much?1 :-/
Not where I live they havent.....we put prices up last year.....40p on the price of the fare....when fuel prices went silly.....to try to compensate....
For example...Fri/Sat nights used to be constant trade last year every weekend.....now its once a month, on payday weekend.....so its fairly obvious people are cutting down on going out from every weekend to once a month :(
Also account customers are cutting down on cabs...for example...we have the account for one of the biggest building societies in Swindon.....one very popular run used to be between two of their buildings.....0.5 miles apart.....now they are being told to walk unless theres a good reason to call for a cab on account :(
Walking's good for the health but bad for business huh. Bad luck!
I remember the first big increase to 'cover fuel' (it seemed disproportionate at the time). For the trip home for us it went from £4 to £5. Then this year it's usually £7 or £8 :(. That's 3 miles. :o The 7 mile trip to Birmingham used to be not much more than a tenner, hovered around £12 for ages, but now is never less than £16 and usually more like £20. :(
There's plenty of taxi companies round here which should mean prices are competitive, but like you say people are indeed going out a lot less, so they have to cover costs. Working in nightclubs I also see the downturn in business. Our local town is a ghost town on a friday night! :'(
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
How come you're down when the cost of cabs has gone up so much?1 :-/
Not where I live they havent.....we put prices up last year.....40p on the price of the fare....when fuel prices went silly.....to try to compensate....
For example...Fri/Sat nights used to be constant trade last year every weekend.....now its once a month, on payday weekend.....so its fairly obvious people are cutting down on going out from every weekend to once a month :(
Also account customers are cutting down on cabs...for example...we have the account for one of the biggest building societies in Swindon.....one very popular run used to be between two of their buildings.....0.5 miles apart.....now they are being told to walk unless theres a good reason to call for a cab on account :(
As an investor in said Building Society, I'm pleased that they have reduced expenditure! sorry
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As a self employed cab driver....I am down about 30% on takings since last year......and its not just me...talk to other drivers and they say the same.....which is a huge drop....and tends to lead to drivers working silly hours to try to make it up....
ie I worked 16 hours last friday ::)
The only advantage is.....the goverment will be getting far less money of us drivers this year in tax :)
How come you're down when the cost of cabs has gone up so much?1 :-/
Not where I live they havent.....we put prices up last year.....40p on the price of the fare....when fuel prices went silly.....to try to compensate....
For example...Fri/Sat nights used to be constant trade last year every weekend.....now its once a month, on payday weekend.....so its fairly obvious people are cutting down on going out from every weekend to once a month :(
Also account customers are cutting down on cabs...for example...we have the account for one of the biggest building societies in Swindon.....one very popular run used to be between two of their buildings.....0.5 miles apart.....now they are being told to walk unless theres a good reason to call for a cab on account :(
Walking's good for the health but bad for business huh. Bad luck!
I remember the first big increase to 'cover fuel' (it seemed disproportionate at the time). For the trip home for us it went from £4 to £5. Then this year it's usually £7 or £8 :(. That's 3 miles. :o The 7 mile trip to Birmingham used to be not much more than a tenner, hovered around £12 for ages, but now is never less than £16 and usually more like £20. :(
There's plenty of taxi companies round here which should mean prices are competitive, but like you say people are indeed going out a lot less, so they have to cover costs. Working in nightclubs I also see the downturn in business. Our local town is a ghost town on a friday night! :'(
3 miles for us is £6.....on a fri/sat evening £7
7 miles for us is £10...on a fri/sat evening £11
Thats car rates.....i drive a people carrier....if i get 5 or more passengers then it goes to £9/£10 for the first trip
£15/16 for the second trip
Tho we are the most expensive firm in Swindon ;D......also the biggest :y
Not quite sure what that implies... :-/ Were the best or peeps dont care what the cab costs when they do go out :-/
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Business is slow at the moment - people seem to be holding off wanting new modules
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3.2% pay rise in april plus 10% of months wage if we finish the contract on time
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In my job we get forgotten about when the climate is good and when the economy turns bad we are bottom of the priority list >:( >:( >:( :'( :'( :'(
But then, I made my decision on my career.... I could still be in France working for CAP Gemini..... (Glad I am not.... ::) ::) ::) ::))
Lucky B@$t@rd - I do and will find out on monday if i still have a job, as my current position has been "rightshored" to the mumbians :-X