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Title: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 21:23:55
Whats the legality on the reflective ones? I currently use sun glasses on a bright day, but if i stopped, say filling up for petrol, i will put the glasses on but they rapidly steam up. Although they are fine on a run, but its a bit dangerous for them to be steamed up and just be pulling out of a petrol station. I was thinking of getting one of these to save the hassle of glasses:

http://www.visorshop.com/shoei_cx1_v_rainbow_iridium_visor_vs_cx1v_visors_13.html

I believe that the above is technically illegal, but you see sooo many people with heavily tinted visors.

Has anyone had any problems before?
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: albitz on 25 July 2009, 21:41:37
Lightly tinted is legal,dark tint like most of us use at times isnt.Dont know the exact facts and figures,H21 would probably be the best to advise on that.
There was a witchunt against dark visor suppliers/sellers/users about 5 years ago by quite a few police forces and even trading standards but I think things have calmed down somewhat now.I believe that most sensible coppers will not make an issue of it particularily if you carry a clear visor so you can change it if it starts to get dark.But there is always the possibility that you could get a tug and get fined.
I think dark visors can be an aid to safe riding if used sensibly,more so in the autumn when the sun sits low in the sky,it can blind you.
I seem to remember visors which have a removable dark insert but dont know how good they are or where you can buy them.
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 21:44:44
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Lightly tinted is legal,dark tint like most of us use at times isnt.Dont know the exact facts and figures,H21 would probably be the best to advise on that.
There was a witchunt against dark visor suppliers/sellers/users about 5 years ago by quite a few police forces and even trading standards but I think things have calmed down somewhat now.I believe that most sensible coppers will not make an issue of it particularily if you carry a clear visor so you can change it if it starts to get dark.But there is always the possibility that you could get a tug and get fined.
I think dark visors can be an aid to safe riding if used sensibly,more so in the autumn when the sun sits low in the sky,it can blind you.
I seem to remember visors which have a removable dark insert but dont know how good they are or where you can buy them.

Thanks  :y

My current Shoei has a anti-mist insert, you put another smaller visor clipped inside the big one. I just find it annoying that sun glasses mist up at petrol stations or stopping for a snack.

The one i posted the link for offers free delivery so think its worth a go. I would always carry the clear one with me incase the weather turns.
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: albitz on 25 July 2009, 21:48:20
Personally I wouldnt wear sunglasses while riding.I can remember seeing pics of someone who got some nasty facial injuries after they crashed while wearing them.But these things are about personal choice/preference etc. :y
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 21:50:50
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Personally I wouldnt wear sunglasses while riding.I can remember seeing pics of someone who got some nasty facial injuries after they crashed while wearing them.But these things are about personal choice/preference etc. :y

Another reason for getting a tinted visor, i remember once it went cloudy so i took them off, i got a much better field of vision when they were off.
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Turk on 25 July 2009, 21:56:25
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Personally I wouldnt wear sunglasses while riding.I can remember seeing pics of someone who got some nasty facial injuries after they crashed while wearing them.But these things are about personal choice/preference etc. :y

Exactly, it's a stupid law. Happy for us to wear dark glass in front of our eyes...but not ballistics tested dark visors.
Plod can do nothing about dark/coloured visor inserts as long as they are attached to a road legal visor.
I've spoken to serving police officers that wanted to buy dark visors via mail order for their personal, off duty use and had to refuse.
Race licence holders and in person only with us.
The Visor Shop can sell via mail order as they are not mainland UK.
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 21:58:18
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Personally I wouldnt wear sunglasses while riding.I can remember seeing pics of someone who got some nasty facial injuries after they crashed while wearing them.But these things are about personal choice/preference etc. :y

Exactly, it's a stupid law. Happy for us to wear dark glass in front of our eyes...but not ballistics tested dark visors.
Plod can do nothing about dark/coloured visor inserts as long as they are attached to a road legal visor.
I've spoken to serving police officers that wanted to buy dark visors via mail order for their personal, off duty use and had to refuse.
Race licence holders and in person only with us.
The Visor Shop can sell via mail order as they are not mainland UK.

Do you get hit by customs tax?
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Turk on 25 July 2009, 22:00:21
No import duty as they are still classed as U.K
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 22:01:04
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No import duty as they are still classed as U.K

Good stuff  :)
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Elite Pete on 25 July 2009, 22:02:40
This is what you want Tunnie

http://www.pitstop-paint.co.uk/images/ReaperSkull.1.jpg
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 22:05:09
i think its best to go for a genuine? Think TB mentioned pattern ones don't fit very well.

Is this a good price?

http://www.racevisors.co.uk/categories.php?c=80&p=180#ptop
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 25 July 2009, 22:06:04
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This is what you want Tunnie

http://www.pitstop-paint.co.uk/images/ReaperSkull.1.jpg

Not sure a photo of you is going to help by 'coolness' on the bike  ;D
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Turk on 25 July 2009, 22:06:07
Don't know how they can sell them and yet still be classed as U.K but that's how it is. :y
If I sold a non-road legal visor to someone without seeing their valid race licence, I'd land a £1000 fine and the same for every non-road legal visor we have in stock. Ouch !!!   
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Elite Pete on 25 July 2009, 22:09:29
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This is what you want Tunnie

http://www.pitstop-paint.co.uk/images/ReaperSkull.1.jpg

Not sure a photo of you is going to help by 'coolness' on the bike  ;D
I don't think there's anything that can help you there :D :D
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: albitz on 25 July 2009, 22:11:40
Afaik Jersey and the other channel isles arent actually part of the uk,but are classed as such for the purposes of import/export etc. :-/
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Turk on 25 July 2009, 22:38:30
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Afaik Jersey and the other channel isles arent actually part of the uk,but are classed as such for the purposes of import/export etc. :-/

They have British post codes and currency is GBP, but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 July 2009, 07:23:33
I use(d) a Fog City Hyper Optiks insert like this (http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/82/2726?r=TD&tduid=f8dfc7a71ad6ae7067ccad04335220d4&affId=1506797) (not necessarily the cheapest supplier!) and found it superb. The reaction of the shade change was quick enough and has the added benefit of reducing fogging :y :y :y

I'd recommend it to anyone, and it also eliminates the hassle of needing a clear visor spare "just in case" the weather turns :y :y :y
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 26 July 2009, 10:22:43
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I use(d) a Fog City Hyper Optiks insert like this (http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/82/2726?r=TD&tduid=f8dfc7a71ad6ae7067ccad04335220d4&affId=1506797) (not necessarily the cheapest supplier!) and found it superb. The reaction of the shade change was quick enough and has the added benefit of reducing fogging :y :y :y

I'd recommend it to anyone, and it also eliminates the hassle of needing a clear visor spare "just in case" the weather turns :y :y :y

So they just clip to the inside of the visor? Got something like that at the moment, an anti-fog one. Does the job well.

How much do these things tint by?
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Jimbob on 26 July 2009, 10:25:08
Pity they dont do reactolite visors like they do specs  :-/
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Lazydocker on 26 July 2009, 15:10:28
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I use(d) a Fog City Hyper Optiks insert like this (http://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/82/2726?r=TD&tduid=f8dfc7a71ad6ae7067ccad04335220d4&affId=1506797) (not necessarily the cheapest supplier!) and found it superb. The reaction of the shade change was quick enough and has the added benefit of reducing fogging :y :y :y

I'd recommend it to anyone, and it also eliminates the hassle of needing a clear visor spare "just in case" the weather turns :y :y :y

So they just clip to the inside of the visor? Got something like that at the moment, an anti-fog one. Does the job well.

How much do these things tint by?

Mine had to be stuck to the inside, but it's a permanent fit. They may do a clip fitting for your helmet :y :y :y

As for tinting... My answer is enough! I can be quite photo-sensitive sometimes but had no issues whatsoever. The reaction is quick enough and it goes reasonably dark, varying with the brightness of the light.

Pity you're not a bit closer to me or you could have had a look at mine... Although I haven't got a bike (currently) I did keep all the gear ready for the next one ::) ::) :y :y
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: TheBoy on 26 July 2009, 15:18:54
From what I recall, tinted is allowed in daylight, but not as light level falls.

Thats why I tend to carry my clear one with me when I go out, so I can swap back to clear if I'm later back or the weather changes.

Legalities aside, it isn't any fun to have dark tints on in low light.

If you do use sunglasses, I'd ensure they are cheap plastic lenses, preferably with flexible frames.
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: Andy B on 26 July 2009, 15:23:01
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Legalities aside, it isn't any fun to have dark tints on in low light.
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No fun at all! 
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: tunnie on 26 July 2009, 15:33:04
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From what I recall, tinted is allowed in daylight, but not as light level falls.

Thats why I tend to carry my clear one with me when I go out, so I can swap back to clear if I'm later back or the weather changes.

Legalities aside, it isn't any fun to have dark tints on in low light.

If you do use sunglasses, I'd ensure they are cheap plastic lenses, preferably with flexible frames.

Thats what i use at the moment, but tempted with a full visor so i get a better field of vision
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: TheBoy on 26 July 2009, 15:58:49
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From what I recall, tinted is allowed in daylight, but not as light level falls.

Thats why I tend to carry my clear one with me when I go out, so I can swap back to clear if I'm later back or the weather changes.

Legalities aside, it isn't any fun to have dark tints on in low light.

If you do use sunglasses, I'd ensure they are cheap plastic lenses, preferably with flexible frames.

Thats what i use at the moment, but tempted with a full visor so i get a better field of vision
Pattern tinted visor is cheap enough, and to can get special bags for clear visor to you carry it under your jacket
Title: Re: Motorbike Visors
Post by: albitz on 26 July 2009, 21:47:43
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From what I recall, tinted is allowed in daylight, but not as light level falls.

Thats why I tend to carry my clear one with me when I go out, so I can swap back to clear if I'm later back or the weather changes.

Legalities aside, it isn't any fun to have dark tints on in low light.

If you do use sunglasses, I'd ensure they are cheap plastic lenses, preferably with flexible frames.
Not so,its similar to regs. on car windows,a certain percentage of daylight must come through the visor.
Basically, lightly tinted visors are legal but dark visors which are a common sight(I have one on one of my helmets)are illegal to sell or use on public roads at any time.