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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Gubz on 12 August 2009, 17:19:57
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anyone here use a linux based operating system? or any of the free operating systems out there?
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I've got a few Linux machines floating around... ::)
Kevin
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Sadly, yes, I use Linux a bit.
Fortunately, on my primary machine, I use Windows.
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My NAS box uses Linux, as does the Xbox and Dreambox.
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My NAS box uses Linux, as does the Xbox and Dreambox.
I think the OP was referring to Linux as a desktop, rather than niche server or special use :y
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Sadly, yes, I use Linux a bit.
Fortunately, on my primary machine, I use Windows.
Avatar says it all
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is it hard to download has i need an operating system for a computer that will be playing powerpoint at our shop front dont fancy spending £95 on windowns just to operate powerpoint ;D
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is it hard to download has i need an operating system for a computer that will be playing powerpoint at our shop front dont fancy spending £95 on windowns just to operate powerpoint ;D
It is easy to download and some places will send you out a disk http://www.ubuntu.com/ :y
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is it hard to download has i need an operating system for a computer that will be playing powerpoint at our shop front dont fancy spending £95 on windowns just to operate powerpoint ;D
You can even get Linux images that boot from CD/DVD so you could test on a Windoze m/c.
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If you need it to actually run powerpoint you're probably better off with a Windoze machine although you might get pptview to run under wine. There are free Linux-native applications that will do the same job though.
Kevin
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ta lads! :y
yea was goin to use open office :y
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ta lads! :y
yea was goin to use open office :y
I've used Open Office Impress (IIRC?) for a few lectures.
It's just like power point (bloated with features you don't need so you can't find a way to achieve the basics you do need). ;D
Should do the job. :y
Kevin
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most linux distros, the holy Ubuntu included, are full of crap, bloating out the system so it makes Windows look lean.
For OpenOffice, being X11, no matter what the Linux distro claims, 512Mb minimum.
This is where the 'proper' Linux distros score, but sadly, the likes of RedHat are far more expensive that Windows.
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I use debian.
Download a net install image http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ & burn it to a cd. Boot the offending PC with the cd & follow the instructions. You might need to do some reading ;)
Personally I started with dos, then windows 1, 2, 3, 98 & XP. With every iteration from Microsoft I have come across situations where the system does mysterious things but you can't fix it because the code is secret. With Debian there is always a solution (but you may need to get your hands dirty to fix it).
Ubuntu & Knoppix are based on Debian. Knoppix is good if you want to boot from a cd without making any changes to an existing pc. You can use a Knoppix cd to boot an unbootable windows pc to investigate & fix the problem. http://www.knoppix.org/
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I use debian.
Download a net install image http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ & burn it to a cd. Boot the offending PC with the cd & follow the instructions. You might need to do some reading ;)
Personally I started with dos, then windows 1, 2, 3, 98 & XP. With every iteration from Microsoft I have come across situations where the system does mysterious things but you can't fix it because the code is secret. With Debian there is always a solution (but you may need to get your hands dirty to fix it).
Ubuntu & Knoppix are based on Debian. Knoppix is good if you want to boot from a cd without making any changes to an existing pc. You can use a Knoppix cd to boot an unbootable windows pc to investigate & fix the problem. http://www.knoppix.org/
but i can't read :-/
;D ;D
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I use debian.
Download a net install image http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ & burn it to a cd. Boot the offending PC with the cd & follow the instructions. You might need to do some reading ;)
Personally I started with dos, then windows 1, 2, 3, 98 & XP. With every iteration from Microsoft I have come across situations where the system does mysterious things but you can't fix it because the code is secret. With Debian there is always a solution (but you may need to get your hands dirty to fix it).
Ubuntu & Knoppix are based on Debian. Knoppix is good if you want to boot from a cd without making any changes to an existing pc. You can use a Knoppix cd to boot an unbootable windows pc to investigate & fix the problem. http://www.knoppix.org/
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i tried using it but couldn't work out how to start downloading it has it just showed me files on more files :-/
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I use debian.
Download a net install image http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ & burn it to a cd. Boot the offending PC with the cd & follow the instructions. You might need to do some reading ;)
Personally I started with dos, then windows 1, 2, 3, 98 & XP. With every iteration from Microsoft I have come across situations where the system does mysterious things but you can't fix it because the code is secret. With Debian there is always a solution (but you may need to get your hands dirty to fix it).
Ubuntu & Knoppix are based on Debian. Knoppix is good if you want to boot from a cd without making any changes to an existing pc. You can use a Knoppix cd to boot an unbootable windows pc to investigate & fix the problem. http://www.knoppix.org/
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i tried using it but couldn't work out how to start downloading it has it just showed me files on more files :-/
Without meaning to sound rude, if that is the case, you may well be better off sticking to Windows :-[
To be honest, unless you have specific needs, 99.9% of people are better off sticking to a Windows PC anyway
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we did has i got bored of lookin :)
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I had a conversation with a PC tech last week, while he uncorrupted my bios and updated stuff, about how Windows is engineered to slow up. Mostly to make us buy the new version. He seemed to like ubunt and apple stuff a lot more as they 'dont go wrong'.
He said stuff like:
'The windows process of moving data constantly, which may help the lifespan of a hard drive, clogs up log files and swap files' and a whole host of things i was not really understanding. He said 'de-fragging can just cause confusion as then the pc is looking in the wrong place for data'.
'Some 6 year old machines which used to take 30 seconds to boot now take 15 minutes. They've only been used for one program, never been updated or connected to anything that could be malicious. Oh were defragged regularly until it was discovered it wasn't helping. Left to themselves they've stuck at the 15 min boot up for two years'
I was very confused! he reckons windows 7 isn't that great either, better than vista but nothings as good as '98 ;D
think i'll stick with xp!
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I had a conversation with a PC tech last week, while he uncorrupted my bios and updated stuff, about how Windows is engineered to slow up. Mostly to make us buy the new version. He seemed to like ubunt and apple stuff a lot more as they 'dont go wrong'.
He said stuff like:
'The windows process of moving data constantly, which may help the lifespan of a hard drive, clogs up log files and swap files' and a whole host of things i was not really understanding. He said 'de-fragging can just cause confusion as then the pc is looking in the wrong place for data'.
'Some 6 year old machines which used to take 30 seconds to boot now take 15 minutes. They've only been used for one program, never been updated or connected to anything that could be malicious. Oh were defragged regularly until it was discovered it wasn't helping. Left to themselves they've stuck at the 15 min boot up for two years'
I was very confused! he reckons windows 7 isn't that great either, better than vista but nothings as good as '98 ;D
think i'll stick with xp!
The man needs help. ;D
Kevin
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;D ;D
I did start to thing his slant on things wasn't quite right, but was very grateful my pc was up and running again. :y
although, i've just remembered he took out 1 GB of ram saying xp doesnt need 2, and it probably caused the unstability.
hmmm. it was fine for over two years with 2......
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I had a conversation with a PC tech last week, while he uncorrupted my bios and updated stuff, about how Windows is engineered to slow up. Mostly to make us buy the new version. He seemed to like ubunt and apple stuff a lot more as they 'dont go wrong'.
He said stuff like:
'The windows process of moving data constantly, which may help the lifespan of a hard drive, clogs up log files and swap files' and a whole host of things i was not really understanding. He said 'de-fragging can just cause confusion as then the pc is looking in the wrong place for data'.
'Some 6 year old machines which used to take 30 seconds to boot now take 15 minutes. They've only been used for one program, never been updated or connected to anything that could be malicious. Oh were defragged regularly until it was discovered it wasn't helping. Left to themselves they've stuck at the 15 min boot up for two years'
I was very confused! he reckons windows 7 isn't that great either, better than vista but nothings as good as '98 ;D
think i'll stick with xp!
I've always wanted to prove that but haven't had the time.
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;D ;D
I did start to thing his slant on things wasn't quite right, but was very grateful my pc was up and running again. :y
although, i've just remembered he took out 1 GB of ram saying xp doesnt need 2, and it probably caused the unstability.
hmmm. it was fine for over two years with 2......
Man's an rsol - windows has always loved lots of memory!! Xp and 2Gb should run well ok!!
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I had a conversation with a PC tech last week, while he uncorrupted my bios and updated stuff, about how Windows is engineered to slow up. Mostly to make us buy the new version. He seemed to like ubunt and apple stuff a lot more as they 'dont go wrong'.
He said stuff like:
'The windows process of moving data constantly, which may help the lifespan of a hard drive, clogs up log files and swap files' and a whole host of things i was not really understanding. He said 'de-fragging can just cause confusion as then the pc is looking in the wrong place for data'.
'Some 6 year old machines which used to take 30 seconds to boot now take 15 minutes. They've only been used for one program, never been updated or connected to anything that could be malicious. Oh were defragged regularly until it was discovered it wasn't helping. Left to themselves they've stuck at the 15 min boot up for two years'
I was very confused! he reckons windows 7 isn't that great either, better than vista but nothings as good as '98 ;D
think i'll stick with xp!
And you let this idiot touch your PC :o
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I had a conversation with a PC tech last week, while he uncorrupted my bios and updated stuff, about how Windows is engineered to slow up. Mostly to make us buy the new version. He seemed to like ubunt and apple stuff a lot more as they 'dont go wrong'.
He said stuff like:
'The windows process of moving data constantly, which may help the lifespan of a hard drive, clogs up log files and swap files' and a whole host of things i was not really understanding. He said 'de-fragging can just cause confusion as then the pc is looking in the wrong place for data'.
'Some 6 year old machines which used to take 30 seconds to boot now take 15 minutes. They've only been used for one program, never been updated or connected to anything that could be malicious. Oh were defragged regularly until it was discovered it wasn't helping. Left to themselves they've stuck at the 15 min boot up for two years'
I was very confused! he reckons windows 7 isn't that great either, better than vista but nothings as good as '98 ;D
think i'll stick with xp!
What utter 'dangle berries'! numpty obviously knows nothing!
Windows is "engineered" to be an operating system, nothing else, by virute of that fact, developers are able to write code, drivers, libraries etc that get very close to the underlying architecture of the machine. This is what slows the machine down, not the OS, but what else is being loaded, initialising and generally making itsself available to a program where the author believes the end-user wants it to respond without intialising its own stack.
Frankly I wouldn't let this bloke near a sodding abacus!
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Frankly I wouldn't let this bloke near a sodding abacus!
I'm in full agreement.
Making statements such as "regular defragging extends the life of a hard drive", and "anything more than 1GB of RAM probably caused instability" simply puts him in the same league as a PC World techie that uses AOL as a service provider.
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hmm points taken.
will take more care in future :)
but he did uncorrupt my bios and sorted a non working pc into a working one. Couldn't work without it! was only glad we didn't have to restore the data drive from backups. 1.4TB takes ages to copy!!!
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hmm points taken.
will take more care in future :)
but he did uncorrupt my bios and sorted a non working pc into a working one. Couldn't work without it! was only glad we didn't have to restore the data drive from backups. 1.4TB takes ages to copy!!!
that would've taken a bit of time alright ;D