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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: nixoro on 28 February 2007, 10:14:01
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Well today is the last day of me having constant access to the site via work.
Well I say that the new job may have its benefits.
Not having access at home will prove a pain so will eventually be getting online at home.
I would like to thank all for any help given to me over the time I have been on here.
I will be online today but after 6 I will be logging on as and when I can.
So to all Good Luck with your Omega's :y
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......so this is not goodbye, just au revoir. ;)
Good luck with the new job Roy, I'm sure you'll be posting regularly again soon. :y :)
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......so this is not goodbye, just au revoir. ;)
Good luck with the new job Roy, I'm sure you'll be posting regularly again soon. :y :)
Cheers Bob :y
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Good luck Roy and dont leave it to long ;)
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Good luck Roy and dont leave it to long ;)
Cheers Pete, I dont think it will be too long, even the misses wants the internet now.
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Best of luck with the new job :y
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Best of luck with the new job :y
Cheers Auto Addict :y
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See you soon (we hope)
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See you soon (we hope)
Cheers Martin :y
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All the best dude.
This may be the chance I need to catch you on post count ....... but I doubt it! ;D
Take care. :y
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Good luck mate. See you around.
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All the best dude.
This may be the chance I need to catch you on post count ....... but I doubt it! ;D
Take care. :y
Ross, good luck with the posting :y
Good luck mate. See you around.
Cheers guys hoping to get the internet at home its sods law though i can only get 512K but thats the trouble with living too far from the exchange
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All the best dude.
This may be the chance I need to catch you on post count ....... but I doubt it! ;D
Take care. :y
Ross, good luck with the posting :y
Good luck mate. See you around.
Cheers guys hoping to get the internet at home its sods law though i can only get 512K but thats the trouble with living too far from the exchange
Good luck
Dont give up on 1 meg, do you know your line figures?
I left demon as they refused to try and upgrade me to 1 meg
I knew neighbours had faster
Moved to zen who previously confirmed they would try, they succeeded, although my line is dead on the limits, it is stable enough.
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All the best dude.
This may be the chance I need to catch you on post count ....... but I doubt it! ;D
Take care. :y
Ross, good luck with the posting :y
Good luck mate. See you around.
Cheers guys hoping to get the internet at home its sods law though i can only get 512K but thats the trouble with living too far from the exchange
Good luck
Dont give up on 1 meg, do you know your line figures?
I left demon as they refused to try and upgrade me to 1 meg
I knew neighbours had faster
Moved to zen who previously confirmed they would try, they succeeded, although my line is dead on the limits, it is stable enough.
Cheers Jimbob
If your meaning line rates 1meg, 2meg, 8meg then 512k max according to BT for me.
Shall try different providers though.
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No, they are BT guesstimates
real figures attainable from some routers, Signal to noise and attenuation.
my Att is 58.5 - just under the max possible for 1 meg
my S2N is 14.5, not quite so important
fyi, from thinkbroadband.com
* Line Length
(They need to know how far you are from the exchange), you must be within ~3.5km to pass for the 2Mbps product, and within approximately 6km for the 1Mbps ADSL products. There is no set limit for a 0.5Mbps service, all but 0.2% of lines should support a 0.5Mbps service.NB: This is related to the length of the line rather than the physical distance from the exchange.
* Line Loss
(They need to ensure your line has suitable quality for ADSL), You need a line loss of no more than 43db for the 2Mbps product, 60dB for 1Mbps product. This test is normally a paper exercise based around the records for your line and area, if a border line figure appears they may test it out in the street. No limit exists for 0.5Mbps services, if you are connected to an enabled exchange your line will be enabled and if it does not work an engineer visit will be arranged to try and get you a service.
Before 6th September 2004, the limits were 41dB on both 1Mbps & 2Mbps products, and 60dB for 0.5Mbps. Additionally before 24th September 2003, the 512kbps line loss limit was 55dB.
* Capacitance
(Again, this is to establish line quality), to pass, this should be below 160nF - for RADSL the figure is believed to be 300nF (nF is nano-farods).
* APTS
This test uses special software on the engineers hardware to talk to the DSLAM and measure the attenuation across the actual line. The limits using this kit are 43dB for a 2Mbps service, and 60dB for the 1Mbps service. Currently this is the definitive test, with 0.5Mbps it is a case of so long as your modem will work you can have the service.
* Woosh Attentuation Test
The woosh test is actual a whole suite of tests, the attenuation measurements are just one subset. This is not used for line qualification anymore, due to the variations caused by the various bits of ADSL hardware people use.
The woosh attenuation test looks at the quality of the line across the DSL frequency range and measures how much of the signal reaches your house, the lose should be less than 45db for 2Mbps and 64dB for 1Mbps products. ISPs have the ability via the ECO interface to remotely do this test, but a pass with this test does not guarantee acceptance onto the 1Mbps and 2Mbps limits.
Many ADSL modems will display the equivalent of the woosh test, but these can be inaccurate. Some modems can be as much as 20dB, though the majority are within 2-3dB. For those with very long lines, the Signal to Noise ratio (Noise Margin) becomes critical, ideally a figure above 6dB is needed for most ADSL kit to function.
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Cheers Jimbob for the info
I have just been on the website you got your info from and checked the availabilty for where I am here is the results.
For Telephone Number 01462****** on Exchange SHILLINGTON
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a line rate up to 512Kbps. However, due to the length of your line, an engineer visit may be required, who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.
Our test also indicates that your line should be able to support a potential ADSL Max broadband line rate of 500Kbps or greater.
The actual ADSL Max line rate supportable will be determined during the first 10 days of use, after which time the highest stable rate possible will be set.
If you decide to place an order, a further test will be performed to confirm if your line is suitable for the service you wish to purchase.
Thank you for your interest.
Would you say this is good or bad, thought i'd post this up as you know more about it than I do.
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See you later all :y
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Cya Roy, you'll soon have DSL I'm sure ;)
Jimbob - virtually all suppliers only do Max now, Zen included ;)
ECO - there's a blast from the past - I used to support those servers a few years ago....
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As stated, if you go for an MAX type provider, you will get as much as you can,
So find a provider that gives what you want, be wary of small usage caps, and go for it and hope for the best.
out of interest, my results from btwholesale are :
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a line rate up to 1Mbps. However due to the length of your line the 1Mbps service may require an engineer visit who will, where possible, supply the broadband service.
Our test also indicates that your line should be able to support a potential ADSL Max broadband line rate of 1.5Mbps or greater.
So, my old line, at the old max for 1meg shows I can maybe get 1.5, so you must be further from your exchange than I am, so will likely be slower :(
bit more info on your exhange here : http://www.samknows.com/broadband/exchange.php?ecode=SMSGN
Good luck
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See you later all :y
take care ;)
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One of my lines....
Your exchange is ADSL enabled, and our initial test on your line indicates that your line should be able to have an ADSL broadband service that provides a line rate up to 2Mbps.
Our test also indicates that your line should be able to support a potential ADSL Max broadband line rate of 8Mbps.