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Title: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 06:58:29
got rid of the crappy remote for my mig as i was getting fed up of fainding it hard to unlock the car i ended up using the key in the door

so i got myself a new alarm/immobiliser
took just over 10 hours and about 50 odd wires and 5 relays

i know have a remote that works from way way away and ive got total closure when i lock the car
and if that didn't put a smile on my face

ive got remote start with it as well
 :y :y :y :y :y :y :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 06:59:13
(http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr264/nickandann123/DSC00224.jpg)
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Auto Addict on 26 August 2009, 07:09:33
Is ther no end to your talents?

Well done :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 07:16:35
had alot of fun fitting it
ive got to do ann's car when she gets 1

the worst part of fitting it was the central locking part but managed to sort it out :y
ill have to post a video up of it when this ruddy rain stops :-[
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Debs. on 26 August 2009, 07:37:03
Well done Nick! :y
What 'cat`s cradle' of wires; not a job for the colour-blind it would seem. ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 07:41:29
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Well done Nick! :y
What 'cat`s cradle' of wires; not a job for the colour-blind it would seem. ;D

it was a bit of a head ache
the instructions aint very helpfull either
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Jimbob on 26 August 2009, 07:42:01
mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 07:43:13
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep
and when the winter kicks in ill have the heated seats set as well so the whole car will be nice and warm to get in it
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Jimbob on 26 August 2009, 07:52:54
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep
and when the winter kicks in ill have the heated seats set as well so the whole car will be nice and warm to get in it


not sure I would use remote heated seats, these things have been known to regularly go on fire / burn out, i would like my bum sensor to be involved as early warning....
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 07:54:25
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep
and when the winter kicks in ill have the heated seats set as well so the whole car will be nice and warm to get in it


not sure I would use remote heated seats, these things have been known to regularly go on fire / burn out, i would like my bum sensor to be involved as early warning....

remote heated seats nah
ill press the button the night before ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 07:55:07
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRj7Z4ktUqs[/media]
video uploaded :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: I_want_an_Omega on 26 August 2009, 08:06:35
This might sound a really stupid question - but is remote start legal in the UK?

How would it work with the insurance if a vehicle with remote start was nicked whilst "warming up"?

I'm sure that there is an answer, but I'd be interested in hearing it.
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 08:10:29
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This might sound a really stupid question - but is remote start legal in the UK?

How would it work with the insurance if a vehicle with remote start was nicked whilst "warming up"?

I'm sure that there is an answer, but I'd be interested in hearing it.

the car is locked and alarmed whilst warming up or running

as soon as the door is opened or a pedal is pressed the engine stops and the alarm goes off
plus i get paged if that does happen

i can open the car whilst the engine is running and put the key in the ignition to keep it runing but only have a certain time to do that or again the engine cuts out
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 26 August 2009, 09:13:58
Brilliant job Nick 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: doog on 26 August 2009, 10:21:30
out of interest what brand/model is the alarm?

Doug
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 10:23:51
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out of interest what brand/model is the alarm?

Doug

its PLC auto systems
FM-a3
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Varche on 26 August 2009, 10:25:58
Whatever next! I bet someone will invent a hard disc recorder for TV instead of video, hand held internet devices, mobile phones that can take and send pictures.

If you whistle does it come round to the front door?
 ;D ;D ;D
Varche
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 26 August 2009, 10:29:44
I am very impressed with that Nick, and a very well done! :y :y :y

I wouldn't dream of taking something like that on! ::) ::) :P :P
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 10:31:04
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I am very impressed with that Nick, and a very well done! :y :y :y

I wouldn't dream of taking something like that on! ::) ::) :P :P

it was a lot of fun
would love to do it again
could do it alot quicker on a mig now i know where all the wires are plus ive written it all down as well :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Welung666 on 26 August 2009, 10:43:07
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This might sound a really stupid question - but is remote start legal in the UK?

How would it work with the insurance if a vehicle with remote start was nicked whilst "warming up"?

I'm sure that there is an answer, but I'd be interested in hearing it.

It's perfectly legal but it invalidates the CAT1 status on any Thatcham approved alarms. I used to fit CAT1 Toad alarms and I'd set them so you have to disarm the alarm to remote start the car but the central locking clicks shut after 10 seconds of the car starting.
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 10:44:43
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This might sound a really stupid question - but is remote start legal in the UK?

How would it work with the insurance if a vehicle with remote start was nicked whilst "warming up"?

I'm sure that there is an answer, but I'd be interested in hearing it.

It's perfectly legal but it invalidates the CAT1 status on any Thatcham approved alarms. I used to fit CAT1 Toad alarms and I'd set them so you have to disarm the alarm to remote start the car but the central locking clicks shut after 10 seconds of the car starting.

this 1 does not unlock the car on remote starting
it stays locked
and if anyone trys to break in the alarm will sound and the enigne will cut out
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: STMO999 on 26 August 2009, 10:53:10
That is really impressive! I wouldn't have had a clue where to start.  :y
I'm usually the one who buys cars like that, then something goes wrong, then the mechanic looks at me and says "Someone's made a right balls of this. It's gonna cost................." :(
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: albitz on 26 August 2009, 11:08:39
what have you done with the real STMO123 ?

 :D :D ;D ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:09:39
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what have you done with the real STMO123 ?

 :D :D ;D ;D

i don't think he has woke up yet ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: albitz on 26 August 2009, 11:11:07
I hope he hasnt gone all soft and fluffy on us,wouldnt be right would it. ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Bumbazor on 26 August 2009, 11:11:50
Nick, have you got your doors locking automatically when the car is started?

I've wired in another alarm and have got it locking and unlocking on the remote, but it does not lock on ignition. It unlocks when turned off though!

Which plugs and pins did you connect the lock/unlock pulses to?
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:13:11
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Nick, have you got your doors locking automatically when the car is started?

I've wired in another alarm and have got it locking and unlocking on the remote, but it does not lock on ignition. It unlocks when turned off though!

Which plugs and pins did you connect the lock/unlock pulses to?

mine locks when ive got the key in the igntion and if i'm about to drive off i give the brake pedal a tap and the doors lock :y


the unlock wire goes to pin 2, 16,12,14 there the brown with white stripe wire
and the lock wire goes to pin 4,3 and 1 there the brown with red stripe
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Bumbazor on 26 August 2009, 11:21:32
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the unlock wire goes to pin 2, 16,12,14 there the brown with white stripe wire
and the lock wire goes to pin 4,3 and 1 there the brown with red stripe


So the unlock pulse is given to four wires and the lock pulse to three wires? All on the same connector?

I like the brake pedal trick!
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:23:39
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the unlock wire goes to pin 2, 16,12,14 there the brown with white stripe wire
and the lock wire goes to pin 4,3 and 1 there the brown with red stripe


So the unlock pulse is given to four wires and the lock pulse to three wires? All on the same connector?

I like the brake pedal trick!

yes
i did alot of searching to make sure it was right and checked the haynes wiring diagram and thats how it is on there :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:25:07
when i lock mine by the remote is also closes all windows and sun roof

if i forget to lock it the pager bleeps to tell me it has done it it self :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Bumbazor on 26 August 2009, 11:38:43
I could do total closure too but not bothered, although it would only take a few minutes to splice in I suppose.

When I wired mine I chose the lock and unlock pulses provided from the driver's door solenoid. I'm going to get my Haynes book now to see where I went wrong...
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:39:55
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I could do total closure too but not bothered, although it would only take a few minutes to splice in I suppose.

When I wired mine I chose the lock and unlock pulses provided from the driver's door solenoid. I'm going to get my Haynes book now to see where I went wrong...

if you take the drivers side kick panel off the main unit is there
thats where i connected mine to
all the wires you need are there :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 11:42:36
don't for get its ground driven locking and unlocking
i had 6 wires from the alarm for the central locking
1 wire for lock and 1 for unlock
2 wires to go to ground
and the other 2 was not needed
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Bumbazor on 26 August 2009, 11:51:10
Right I'll have to see how I've wired it in then, as it did have options for both ground and positive and I can't remember which I used!
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: STMO999 on 26 August 2009, 12:05:06
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what have you done with the real STMO123 ?

 :D :D ;D ;D

Credit where it's due Albs.
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Elite Pete on 26 August 2009, 12:18:20
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what have you done with the real STMO123 ?

 :D :D ;D ;D

Credit where it's due Albs.
:o

We've got an imposter, I expect we will receive a ransom note soon ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 August 2009, 12:25:51
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep..thats a superb idea..a warm car in a winter morning is a dream..Well done Nick.. Waiting for the video :y :y :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 12:26:46
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warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep..thats a superb idea..a warm car in a winter morning is a dream..Well done Nick.. Waiting for the video :y :y :y
short video is on here
what other video do you want ;D
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 August 2009, 12:41:52
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warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep..thats a superb idea..a warm car in a winter morning is a dream..Well done Nick.. Waiting for the video :y :y :y
short video is on here
what other video do you want ;D

where you connect the wires and the device ;D :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 12:51:41
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warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep..thats a superb idea..a warm car in a winter morning is a dream..Well done Nick.. Waiting for the video :y :y :y
short video is on here
what other video do you want ;D

where you connect the wires and the device ;D :y

oooo
i can't be posting where everything is
i can help out on fitting the kit but won't be posting where the device is hidden etc etc
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 26 August 2009, 12:55:20
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

yep..thats a superb idea..a warm car in a winter morning is a dream..Well done Nick.. Waiting for the video :y :y :y
short video is on here
what other video do you want ;D

where you connect the wires and the device ;D :y

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i can't be posting where everything is
i can help out on fitting the kit but won't be posting where the device is hidden etc etc

 :'( :'(

Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 12:57:19
most of the wireing is in the drivers kick panel and behind the fuse box
behind the kick panel is only for the central locking

everything else has to be done behind the fuse box and a bit of work on the original factory fit immobiliser and alarm :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 August 2009, 13:29:44
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

Was just thinking the same thing.

Set the heater to hot before you get out in winter then get into a lovely warm car on an icy morning.  (Can you set it to remotely turn on the HRW when you are in a rush.  ;D ;D

Well done Nick, what sort/make of alarm wasit.
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 13:32:06
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

Was just thinking the same thing.

Set the heater to hot before you get out in winter then get into a lovely warm car on an icy morning.  (Can you set it to remotely turn on the HRW when you are in a rush.  ;D ;D

Well done Nick, what sort/make of alarm was it.

i'm sure i posted that some where
its PLC auto systems
FM-a3  :y
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 August 2009, 13:41:46
Good stuff Nick.  I have one concern though.

Love the idea it's all locked and remote starting to warm up.  Get in and put the key in the ignition to unlock the steering I assume.  I would be scared of getting in as per normal and turning to start mode whilst engine is running.  Did it once by mistake and didnt like the noise it made.  Is there a way to prevent this. ?  Olus without the key neing in the ignition on warmup is the dash active, handbrake loght and rev counter etc.
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 26 August 2009, 13:42:49
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mmm remote start


warm / cool the car before you get to it  :D

Was just thinking the same thing.

Set the heater to hot before you get out in winter then get into a lovely warm car on an icy morning.  (Can you set it to remotely turn on the HRW when you are in a rush.  ;D ;D

Well done Nick, what sort/make of alarm was it.

i'm sure i posted that some where
its PLC auto systems
FM-a3  :y


You did Nick, I just replied as I was reading it, should have gone back to edit when I had read the full thread.  :-[
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 13:54:12
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Good stuff Nick.  I have one concern though.

Love the idea it's all locked and remote starting to warm up.  Get in and put the key in the ignition to unlock the steering I assume.  I would be scared of getting in as per normal and turning to start mode whilst engine is running.  Did it once by mistake and didnt like the noise it made.  Is there a way to prevent this. ?  Olus without the key neing in the ignition on warmup is the dash active, handbrake loght and rev counter etc.

rev counter works and everything
if you take the hand brake off or press the brake with out the key in the ignition the engine will cut out and sound the alarm
i just put the key in turn it twice job done
not sure if there is a way of taking out the steering lock but wouldn't want to really unless you wired some sort of motor to turn it not sure on that
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: omegod on 26 August 2009, 18:56:58
So the big question is what would a supply and fit cost be ?
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: nick v6 on 26 August 2009, 18:58:36
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So the big question is what would a supply and fit cost be ?

there is 1 on ebay and i think they wanted £200 ish to fit them plus the alarm

its great fun to fit
go for it and have fun
Title: Re: big smiles all round
Post by: Marks DTM Calib on 28 August 2009, 12:39:51
Just remember, this will be more of a challenge to a post 95 car with the deadlock immobiliser fitted.....unless you want to compromise the immobiliser function on your car!