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Title: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Nickbat on 31 August 2009, 12:12:48
NM Rothschild pitches motorway privatisation plan.

"A radical plan to raise £100 billion by privatising the motorway network has been presented to the three main political parties by NM Rothschild, the influential investment bank.

The Rothschild plan has already won the support of Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats’ deputy leader and Treasury spokesman.

“This is an attractive, positive idea which could release considerable resources to the public finances and may have real environmental merits,” Cable said. “The scale of it is vast — it makes rail privatisation look like small beer.”


Hold on a second! Don't we already own the motorways anyway? This plan would mean that the government would sell the roads to companies who would then charge us to use them. And don't we already pay for road upkeep though the VED?

 >:( >:( >:(

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6814923.ece 
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Martin_1962 on 31 August 2009, 12:18:46
Cable has now lost it - pillock!
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 12:47:39
Vince isn't bad as most politicians go, but don't forget he's an old fashioned liberal sort of guy ::) ::) :y
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 12:51:26
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NM Rothschild pitches motorway privatisation plan.
"A radical plan to raise £100 billion by privatising the motorway network has been presented to the three main political parties by NM Rothschild, the influential investment bank.

The Rothschild plan has already won the support of Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrats’ deputy leader and Treasury spokesman.

“This is an attractive, positive idea which could release considerable resources to the public finances and may have real environmental merits,” Cable said. “The scale of it is vast — it makes rail privatisation look like small beer.”


Hold on a second! Don't we already own the motorways anyway? This plan would mean that the government would sell the roads to companies who would then charge us to use them. And don't we already pay for road upkeep though the VED?

 >:( >:( >:(

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6814923.ece 



No more need be said ;D ;D :y


...and yes Nick our property would in effect be stolen and sold back to us ;D ;D

[size=16]ONLY IN NEW LABOUR'S BRITAIN COULD THIS EVER BE CONSIDERED AN ACCEPTABLE PROPOSAL[/size]
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: albitz on 31 August 2009, 13:05:34
I think it will happen (regardless of which of the 3 left of centre parties make the decision)its just a matter of when. >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Varche on 31 August 2009, 13:58:22
Wouldn't be the first or last time the family silver has been disposed of.

Wouldn't it be great if the "Motorways " ended up being owned by Johnny Foreigner who could then charge what he liked! (Bit like your energy companies)

Our local bank branch closed suddenly a few weeks ago without warning. On Friday we received a letter saying it was going to be closed and giving details of our nearest branch. Those details were just blank. Wait till these banks are running British Banks like Abbey and A and L!!!

The privatisation of motorways could be smoothed through by giving every motorist a few shares. The dividends could give "free motorway miles". That would overcome objections from Sid. 

El autovia Varche

Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: LaserLance on 31 August 2009, 14:20:55
Well I think the EU might have a thing or two to say about it .The german goverment tried to do the same thing 10 or so years ago and were told it wasnt possible to do as all the autobahns had been paid for buy the taxpayer . so how they got round it was by bringing in a daily roadtax to cover germany ,denmark and the benelux countrys ,but this is only for trucks after 5 years the germans opted out of it and now run a system called "Maut" and you pay by the kilometre and it is very expensive ,last time i used it ,it cost about £80 to go from Aachen to Munich.
sorry its a long one
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 14:28:18
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Wouldn't be the first or last time the family silver has been disposed of.

Wouldn't it be great if the "Motorways " ended up being owned by Johnny Foreigner who could then charge what he liked! (Bit like your energy companies)

Our local bank branch closed suddenly a few weeks ago without warning. On Friday we received a letter saying it was going to be closed and giving details of our nearest branch. Those details were just blank. Wait till these banks are running British Banks like Abbey and A and L!!!

The privatisation of motorways could be smoothed through by giving every motorist a few shares. The dividends could give "free motorway miles". That would overcome objections from Sid. 

El autovia Varche



Splendid observations as usual Varche 8-) :y :y
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 August 2009, 14:41:33
Rothschilds again.. >:(

will squeeze even a fly for oil >:( >:(



Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 14:43:20
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Rothschilds again.. >:(

will squeeze even a fly for oil >:( >:(





 ;D ;D ;D that about sums it up cem  :y :y
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: cem_devecioglu on 31 August 2009, 14:45:19
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Rothschilds again.. >:(

will squeeze even a fly for oil >:( >:(





 ;D ;D ;D that about sums it up cem  :y :y

yep..this family dont know the meaning of "enough" when the subject is money >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 14:49:53
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yep..this family dont know the meaning of "enough" when the subject is money >:( >:( >:(

....that's why this proposal will be viewed to be worthy of examination by the current UK administration ;) ;)
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: STMO999 on 31 August 2009, 14:57:07
What we need is a bit of good old British civil disobediance. :) Maggie got the message over the poll tax.
Admittedly, they wiil eventually sneak it through somehow, but we should voice our concerns forcefully before that happens. ;D
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 15:25:57
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What we need is a bit of good old British civil disobediance. :) Maggie got the message over the poll tax.
Admittedly, they wiil eventually sneak it through somehow, but we should voice our concerns forcefully before that happens. ;D

.........being fruit of the 'Mans' loins I wouldn't be inclined to agree with civil disobedience as it can run wildly out of control and be hijacked by others who have a much more sinister agenda.

However, I do agree that the present administration should not be permitted to have a free run on this issue, so we should ensure that those who seek our vote in the next general election have some form of coherent policy regarding transport especially where the roads network is concerned.
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: jereboam on 31 August 2009, 16:51:36
You pay per trip to use the railway.  For the most part, you don't pay per trip to use the motorways. 

Roads are paid for out of general taxation (don't try and kid me that the Road Tax is ring fenced and used exclusively for the benefit of road users).  So if we switch to privatised motorways, we should all get a hefty tax rebate.  Shouldn't we? :-? :-? :-?
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 31 August 2009, 17:08:03
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You pay per trip to use the railway.  For the most part, you don't pay per trip to use the motorways. 

Roads are paid for out of general taxation (don't try and kid me that the Road Tax is ring fenced and used exclusively for the benefit of road users).  So if we switch to privatised motorways, we should all get a hefty tax rebate.  Shouldn't we? :-? :-? :-?


 ;D ;D I'm banking on it J  :y :y
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: STMO999 on 31 August 2009, 17:09:08
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You pay per trip to use the railway.  For the most part, you don't pay per trip to use the motorways. 

Roads are paid for out of general taxation (don't try and kid me that the Road Tax is ring fenced and used exclusively for the benefit of road users).  So if we switch to privatised motorways, we should all get a hefty tax rebate.  Shouldn't we? :-? :-? :-?

Keep taking the pills.
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: yatesDELTA on 31 August 2009, 20:22:28
We already have a pay per the mile system, the ridiculus taxation on fuel. So if the roads went to pay per milege would the fuel tax go down? one would hope so..


arguably fuel tax is better than pay per mile aswell as it favours those with more efficient cars, which works quite well with the governments agenda  (not so well with owners of 3.2 V6's though)
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: theowletman on 31 August 2009, 20:43:38
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You pay per trip to use the railway.  For the most part, you don't pay per trip to use the motorways

Roads are paid for out of general taxation (don't try and kid me that the Road Tax is ring fenced and used exclusively for the benefit of road users).  So if we switch to privatised motorways, we should all get a hefty tax rebate.  Shouldn't we? :-? :-? :-?
You pay to use every inch of road, VED, fuel duty, insurance premium tax, VAT on repairs, parts etc. You even have to pay to stand still ( parking ). The french autoroutes are fantastic and a real pleasure to use, I am all for the privatisation of all roads, as long as only the private company receive payment, i.e. no tax disc and tolls, one or the other. The government has made some massive improvements and more are planned, but we should only pay once.
Title: Re: Privatised motorways?
Post by: Gaffers on 31 August 2009, 20:50:03
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....... or the other. The government has made some massive improvements and more are planned, but we should only pay once.

....as the priest said to the nun....."Come again?"  :o :o :o