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Chat Area => General Discussion Area => Topic started by: Nickbat on 16 August 2009, 00:46:29
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...is the title of a documentary film by Irish couple Ann McElhinney & Phelim McAleer. It's the film Al Gore and Hollywood don't want you to see, and will premiere on October 18th 2009 at 8 pm EST (USA)
http://www.noteviljustwrong.com/
If you can find time to listen to the highly entertaining, but very informative, interview with the couple, you'll be well rewarded: (Mind you, the video feed is useless :()
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1988450
It lasts 43 minutes, but it's worth it, believe me!
Enjoy! :y
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Damn you Nick I was just about to sign off.
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Damn you Nick I was just about to sign off.
Let me know what you think, Zulu! :y
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Is it good?
Be honest.
My dogs have a longer attention span than I.
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Is it good?
Be honest.
My Goldfish have a longer attention span than I.
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Is it good?
Be honest.
My Goldfish have a longer attention span than I.
;D :D
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Is it good?
Be honest.
My dogs have a longer attention span than I.
And me, don't generally do long links or long jokes, much rather the quick fire stuff........... :y :y
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Is it good?
Be honest.
My dogs have a longer attention span than I.
And me, don't generally do long links or long jokes, much rather the quick fire stuff........... :y :y
Snigger ;D
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There are always two sides to any story and with the environmental debate it is no exception. Both sides hold passionate views which cannot be forgotten when seeing this film when released.
However, for me personally, the views expressed by the film makers in this interview support my argument about global warming 'hype' and how we are about to throw the baby out with the bath water!! As the title suggests the Al Gore argument is not evil, it is just wrong when you study the evidence available.
The interview was highly interesting and I noted the comments made on Rachel Carson whose book Silent Spring (1962) I have read extracts from at uni, but now she is being discredited and blamed for causing 40 million deaths. I loved the references to Africa and the nonsense about the 'benefits' of a 'natural' life living off only local resources. Who wants a life living in a mud hut with no electric, running water, all 21st century amenities, no medical care, drugs for cancer, TB, etc, and living off basic foods where life expectancy is around 45 years if you are lucky! :P :P :P :P Al Gore wants to ban the use of fossil fuels; as asked rhetorically in the interview, who wants a life with half the electricity available needed. Overall just a great opening piece that has made me very keen to see the film when released! :y :y :y Any film that brings strong counter arguments to the table must be a good thing. Great one for finding this gem Nick!! :y :y :y :y
We will have to watch the Conservatives over this subject if they gain power at the next elections, which I hope they do, but they do enjoy their 'green' credentials as well so I hope Cameron watches this film!! ;) ;)
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lets just suppose for a moment global warming is a complete myth, in the future will they think the idea we believed in it is as preposterous as believing the earth is flat?
or say blaming global warming for weather conditions is as silly as blaming god?
the amount of silly theories throughout history it seems feasible :D
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It's good to see the alternative view presented in some sort of watchable format.
Al Bore demonstrates, with convincing ease, that it's easy to preach from the pulpit of plenty where the effects of such sermons have little impact on the lifestyle or personal circumstance of those who choose to voice this message.
For those on the hard pews of modest means however such musings will have a fundamental impact in how they conduct their day to day business and will result in the decrease of the amount of disposable income available for things other than the absolute necessities.
We need a well reasoned scientifically plausible counter to the present zealous nature of the doom-laden message being passed.
There is no reason however to disregard the need to use what remaining resources this planet holds in the most responsible, efficient and sensible way possible.
Regarding whether or not any form of evil inhabits the disciples of this message, I fear that the Anti-Christ may have revealed itself.
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fantastic...a real insight to the climate change stealth tax...
can't wait for the film
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I decided to ressurect this thread as the filmmakers have received death threats.
"... some friends of mine from Ireland, Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney, whose film Not Evil Just Wrong is due to premiere next month, have been subjected to a slew of death threats and instances of disgusting abuse from the environmental Left. One commenter branded them “Hitler’s Henchmen”.
Their crime? Their film dares to challenge the conventional wisdom about global warming - they prefer to call it “global warming hysteria” - and take on Al Gore’s An Inconvenient Truth. Rather than try to rebut the arguments of the couple, it seems, their opponents want to shut down any debate.
One environmentalist sent McAleer and McElhinney an e-mail describing them as “stinking, selfish, sociopathic fascists” and expressed a desire for them to be executed.
“It is one of my fondest hopes that whatever remnants of human civilization exists at the end of this catastrophe is able to put people like you on trial for crimes against humanity and give you the same treatment Hitler’s henchmen got at Nurnberg a long drop at the end of a short rope,” the email stated.
...A commenter on YouTube wished that McAleer and McElhinney’s children be born handicapped because they were not campaigning against “pollution”.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100008420/hitlers-henchmen-environmentalists-brand-al-gores-filmmaker-foes/
Nice to know that these environmentists are such pleasant people. >:( >:( >:(
Can't wait for the film. :y
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come on Nick - almost all comments on clips on youtube descend into disgusting, foul mouthed rants regardless of the subject matter - you always get these keyboard warriors who are far ruder than they would ever be face to face
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i'm watching the clip now, do you know who David Koch is? He's president of Koch Industries, the largest privately owned company in the USA with major oil and gas holdings.
He is the second richest man in New York.
He the founder of the sinister-sounding Americans For Prosperity (AFP)
AFP are our hosts for this interview ::)
now, i'm not saying Koch is a bad man (he's a great philanthropist)
and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with AFP - they just happen to be a right-leaning libertarian organisation - fine
but i just wish we could have an open discussion without it being funded and promoted by vested interests - when that happens i'll listen ;)
until then - i'll give the scientific evidence more weight :y
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i'm waiting for the interviewer to give the couple an awkward question.............
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he's not going to is he?
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i'm watching the clip now, do you know who David Koch is? He's president of Koch Industries, the largest privately owned company in the USA with major oil and gas holdings.
He is the second richest man in New York.
He the founder of the sinister-sounding Americans For Prosperity (AFP)
AFP are our hosts for this interview ::)
now, i'm not saying Koch is a bad man (he's a great philanthropist)
and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with AFP - they just happen to be a right-leaning libertarian organisation - fine
but i just wish we could have an open discussion without it being funded and promoted by vested interests - when that happens i'll listen ;)
until then - i'll give the scientific evidence more weight :y
No one but free marketeers will fund the realists' cause. I know you're left-leaning, but does everything have to be reduced to a nice left/horrid right argument in your book?
:-/
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i'm watching the clip now, do you know who David Koch is? He's president of Koch Industries, the largest privately owned company in the USA with major oil and gas holdings.
He is the second richest man in New York.
He the founder of the sinister-sounding Americans For Prosperity (AFP)
AFP are our hosts for this interview ::)
now, i'm not saying Koch is a bad man (he's a great philanthropist)
and i'm not saying there's anything wrong with AFP - they just happen to be a right-leaning libertarian organisation - fine
but i just wish we could have an open discussion without it being funded and promoted by vested interests - when that happens i'll listen ;)
until then - i'll give the scientific evidence more weight :y
No one but free marketeers will fund the realists' cause. I know you're left-leaning, but does everything have to be reduced to a nice left/horrid right argument in your book?
:-/
saves a lot of time in the long run ;D
nah, seriosly it isn't black and white - i just wish we had a neutral voice - i just don't buy all the green arguments, nor do i buy all the climate change conspirists arguments
but posting a puff piece with no journalistic merit does neither argument any good - completely pointless :(
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What on earth is a "puff piece"? :-? :-?
Do I extrapolate from your words that you consider my post "completely pointless"? :(
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What on earth is a "puff piece"? :-? :-?
Do I extrapolate from your words that you consider my post "completely pointless"? :(
puff piece - you know - it's a friendly environment to launch your book/film/cd whatever :y
you're post isn't pointless - but the interview wasn't exactly paxo on newsnight territory was it?- not very rigorous :o