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Title: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Nickbat on 06 September 2009, 23:18:44
Consider these two articles:

http://heliogenic.blogspot.com/2009/09/sky-money-and-carbon-cowboys.html

"[In Papua New Guinea ( PNG)] carbon trading has been converted into a cargo cult luring cash from Australian taxpayers, international investors and local villagers alike. This classic 21st-century scam emerging from the global climate change industry is known in PNG as mani bilong skai - sky money - because it appears to be selling air."

AND

http://jer-skepticscorner.blogspot.com/2009/09/monetary-value-of-nothing.html

"...a carbon credit is one ton of carbon avoided or negated from the atmosphere

So in fact a non entity is now a commodity. Making an invisible gas readily available everywhere without charge a commodity is ridiculous enough, but the idea of not making an invisible gas readily available everywhere without charge a thing of value is beyond absurd, it is surreal. "

 :o :o :o

I think I'm living in La-La Land.

Anyone out there?

Hello? Hello?

 ::) ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: albitz on 06 September 2009, 23:22:25
Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Banjax on 06 September 2009, 23:24:14
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D


Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 06 September 2009, 23:25:52
Isn't this exactly what has just crippled the financial markets? (Dreaming up abstract entities of zero value and then trading them, etc.)

Kevin
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: unlucky alf on 06 September 2009, 23:25:52
well al gore is doing alright selling carbon credits, now theres a shock i dont think >:( >:(
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: albitz on 06 September 2009, 23:30:13
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D


Sorry,I didnt think ::) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 September 2009, 23:38:31
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Banjax on 06 September 2009, 23:40:06
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 September 2009, 23:41:41
Nick where there's money to be made, nothing falls within the realms of the absurd ;) ;)
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 06 September 2009, 23:43:27
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Banjax on 07 September 2009, 00:01:16
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 September 2009, 00:46:51
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D


... I'm so bad I'll be tempted to bash street kids next - oh, that was a little plum of a gag ;D ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Banjax on 07 September 2009, 01:59:03
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D


... I'm so bad I'll be tempted to bash street kids next - oh, that was a little plum of a gag ;D ;D

now you're getting desperate, dan
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 September 2009, 11:55:54
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D


... I'm so bad I'll be tempted to bash street kids next - oh, that was a little plum of a gag ;D ;D

now you're getting desperate, dan



 ;D ;D ;D that was a beezer, bj ;D :y
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Banjax on 07 September 2009, 13:14:36
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D


... I'm so bad I'll be tempted to bash street kids next - oh, that was a little plum of a gag ;D ;D

now you're getting desperate, dan



 ;D ;D ;D that was a beezer, bj ;D :y

thanks - but you're still a numbskull  ;D
Title: Re: When is a commodity not a commodity?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 07 September 2009, 13:24:21
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Proof positive that the lunatics have taken over the asylum.The fallout from this house of cards collapsing (which it will) doesnt bear thinking about. :(

are you deliberately trying to get me into trouble  ;D





...start taking the Mail and we'll say nothing ::) ::) ;D


well if i can't get the Beano tomorrow - i'll give it a try zulu  ;D

...that'll be just dandy bj ::) can't ask for more ;D ;D

dear oh dear - you're a menace denis  ;D


... I'm so bad I'll be tempted to bash street kids next - oh, that was a little plum of a gag ;D ;D

now you're getting desperate, dan



 ;D ;D ;D that was a beezer, bj ;D :y

thanks - but you're still a numbskull  ;D


 ;D ;D ;D I loved the Numbskulls  ;D ;D ;D :y 

I used to see my next door neighbour billy whizz through the pages of each new issue :o ;D ;D