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Title: Off Road Parking
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 September 2009, 15:43:29
Just had a call off a mate, sadly I dont know the answer.

Quiet road, all concel houses, with an off road parking area with some garages appartenyly  the area is for use for the councel tennants only and not the ones that have boght thier houses.

His car is sorned and but needs to be moved off his drive to enable scaffolding to be errected for councel house repairs.

Is he legal to park it in the private parking area whilst repairs are done to the houses.

TIA.
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: HNO3GOH on 12 September 2009, 15:50:17
I would say yes as it's not on the public highway but might be worth a call to DVLA to be sure ;)
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 12 September 2009, 15:53:22
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I would say yes as it's not on the public highway but might be worth a call to DVLA to be sure ;)

Good point.   :y
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: MickAP on 12 September 2009, 16:20:02
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Just had a call off a mate, sadly I dont know the answer.

Quiet road, all concel houses, with an off road parking area with some garages appartenyly  the area is for use for the councel tennants only and not the ones that have boght thier houses.

His car is sorned and but needs to be moved off his drive to enable scaffolding to be errected for councel house repairs.

Is he legal to park it in the private parking area whilst repairs are done to the houses.

TIA.

Surely if it is a private parking area, ie only the home owners/tenants can park there and not part of the highway then I can't see a problem.

Mick
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: HNO3GOH on 12 September 2009, 16:29:39
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I would say yes as it's not on the public highway but might be worth a call to DVLA to be sure ;)

Good point.   :y

For the cost of a call it worth it as the last thing your mate wants is to find a clamp on his car or worse it's been lifted, plus because it on SORN you have to tell them it's being moved ;)
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Lizzie_Zoom on 12 September 2009, 16:36:56
With my housing association our private car parking area comes with the rule that no untaxed or unroadworthy cars may be parked there.

I have witnessed DVLA agency vehicles and staff removing such vehicles from our car park! :o :o :'(
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Stevie-blunder on 12 September 2009, 17:49:48
Phone the council and put a note on screen where tax disc should be, otherwise they could have it towed away  :y
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: KillerWatt on 13 September 2009, 17:12:21
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Surely if it is a private parking area, ie only the home owners/tenants can park there and not part of the highway then I can't see a problem.

Mick
Nu Labia saw to that.
If the general public have unrestricted access, then the rules of the road apply (ie, it must be taxed, insured, MOT'd, etc) regardless of whether it is classed as private or not.

I live in a private road, it is marked as private at the entrance, etc.....any vehicle I put out there still has to be road legal.
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: HolyCount on 13 September 2009, 19:35:55
The parking areas are maintainable at public expense, so I would be careful and make that call.

Problem is -- hopefully a mere technicality --- how do you get it to the space without crossing the highway anyway !!!!  Picky I know -- but you might get some jobsworth!

Final thought -- if the council are needing the area of your drive clear to put up scaffolding, they should at least try to assist.
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: mantagte on 13 September 2009, 19:45:58
as it is council land i would say that the answer is no he cant legally park it there due to council rules
my mate had to move his from the council car park at ther back of his council house
if it was a private car park like at the back of mine  there would be no problem parking there
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 13 September 2009, 19:50:08
Just found out this parking area hasa gate to lock the area off.  Dont know if this would make a difference.
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Taxi_Driver on 13 September 2009, 20:15:35
DVLA changed the rules for SORN'd vehicles a while back and afaik this is the general gist.....A sorn'd vehicle now has to be either on your own driveway/land or at a place of repair, ie a garage.

You cannot now, for example, park a sorn'd vehicle in a private pub carpark if you dont own the pub that is.

So as i see it, parking it in a private carpark, that you dont own, is a no no too.
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: mantagte on 13 September 2009, 20:45:05
sorry meant a private car park that you own/co own
Title: Re: Off Road Parking
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 13 September 2009, 21:16:01
From the Department concerned;

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/OwningAVehicle/UntaxedVehicle/DG_069727

'Using or keeping a vehicle on a public road 

A public road is a road maintained at the public expense, including grass verges and ground adjoining the road. Contact your local authority if you have any doubt about an area where you want to park your vehicle. All vehicles that are used or kept on a public road must be taxed and must display a valid tax disc at all times.'


There's a lot here about SORN matters in general;


http://www.consumeractiongroup.co.uk/forum/dvla/98371-dvla-sorn.html