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Title: e-bay warning
Post by: Banjax on 15 September 2009, 20:26:15
received 3 messages from service@paypal.com listing 3 transactions i have no knowledge of saying don't forget to claim your money from Activity Directo........haven't sold anything so must be a spof

its normally .co.uk for genuine transactions - has anyone had this before?

i reckon its a phishing mail tho - well dodgy - bloody flea-bay  :(









Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: KillerWatt on 15 September 2009, 20:28:30
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i reckon its a phishing mail tho - well dodgy - bloody flea-bay  :(
The mail headers will confirm whether it's genuine or not.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Banjax on 15 September 2009, 20:31:17
looked genuine and i'm usually pretty alert to these things - but apparently its just another scammer  :o
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: KillerWatt on 15 September 2009, 20:33:27
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looked genuine and i'm usually pretty alert to these things - but apparently its just another scammer  :o
Doesn't matter how well the message was laid out, the headers will confirm the source.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Banjax on 15 September 2009, 20:35:22
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looked genuine and i'm usually pretty alert to these things - but apparently its just another scammer  :o
Doesn't matter how well the message was laid out, the headers will confirm the source.

deleted them - but i'll check headers next time KW :y
is this a common one? don't use e-bay much but i've bought a few things last couple of days
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Turk on 15 September 2009, 20:38:42
Pretty sure PayPal always use Dear "your name" in all correspondence.
They never use Dear "Seller, Customer" etc 
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Mr Skrunts on 15 September 2009, 20:41:26
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looked genuine and i'm usually pretty alert to these things - but apparently its just another scammer  :o

Paypal have allways said they never send out emails, so no matter what comes through I allways considerit a con.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: KillerWatt on 15 September 2009, 20:41:41
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Banjax on 15 September 2009, 20:48:49
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

god, i'll look forward to 2 or 3 a day then, filling up my spam drawer  :(
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 21:18:47
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Welung666 on 15 September 2009, 21:21:48
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: redelitev6 on 15 September 2009, 21:21:57
  >:(I had something similar a while ago. now i always ignore anything like it ,always go into your e-bay or paypal account to check any details .
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 21:31:11
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this? yes, when I open an email i shows the sender, but how does the untrained eye know if it is genuine or not.  My paypal fakes ones looked real and came from a .uk

Phising email address shown; "Paypal" <Service@paypal.co.uk>

Genuine email; spoof@paypal.com" <spoof@paypal.com>
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Welung666 on 15 September 2009, 21:35:02
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this? yes, when I open an email i shows the sender, but how does the untrained eye know if it is genuine or not.  My paypal fakes ones looked real and came from a .uk

Phising email address shown; "Paypal" <Service@paypal.co.uk>

Genuine email; spoof@paypal.com" <spoof@paypal.com>

Easiest way is the way the email starts. eGay, paypal and your bank will address you directly, I.E. Dear Vamps. Most spoof emails don't show as paypal.co.uk, the ones I've had are from something like paypalservice@ukpaypal.com.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 21:46:14
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this? yes, when I open an email i shows the sender, but how does the untrained eye know if it is genuine or not.  My paypal fakes ones looked real and came from a .uk

Phising email address shown; "Paypal" <Service@paypal.co.uk>

Genuine email; spoof@paypal.com" <spoof@paypal.com>

Easiest way is the way the email starts. eGay, paypal and your bank will address you directly, I.E. Dear Vamps. Most spoof emails don't show as paypal.co.uk, the ones I've had are from something like paypalservice@ukpaypal.com.

Well mine did and the genuine one was from a .com.  The following is a phishig email received and confrimed as such by paypal........

Paypal Security CenterWednesday, 9 September, 2009 6:29 PM
From: "Paypal" <Service@paypal.co.uk>Add sender to ContactsTo: undisclosed-recipients
 

 
 

 

 

 

 
 paypal Security Center 
 
 
We were unable to process your most recent payment. Did you recently change your bank, phone number or credit card?.
To ensure that your service is not interrupted, please update your account information today by clicking here. Or contact PayPal(r) Member Services Team. We're available 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.
If you have recently updated your records, please disregard this message as we are processing the changes you have made.

Regards,
PayPal(r) Member Services Team



If this email is inappropriate or in any way violates PayPal(r) policy, please help protect other paypal community members by reporting it to us immediately.
 
 

 
 
 

 
 

Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Welung666 on 15 September 2009, 21:52:12
Was it addressed personally though?
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 21:58:59
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Was it addressed personally though?
No, I checked it and the genuine one was addressed to my name. I was suspicious, but I can understand how people can be completely taken in by some of the requests sent, seemingly quite genuine.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Nickbat on 15 September 2009, 22:03:39
Talking of scams, I received this great email the other day:

YOURKSHIRE WORLD INC.
166 felthamn road,Unit 16
Ashford/London/TW15 1YQ
United Kingdom
Registration number: 3699677
VAT registration number: GB832 6732
Tell:+44 70457 09491
Email: yourkshireca@yahoo.com.hk


Dear Sir/Madam,

I represent Yourkshire Inc. Ltd based in the UK. My company exports finished leather products and other goods/services for world trade. Would you like to work online from home and get paid weekly?

Yourkshire Inc needs a Book-Keeper in the United states,United Kingdom, Canada, South America, Asia, Mexico, Australia and parts of Europe. So I want to know if you will like to work from home and get paid for the services, blah, blah.
...
Yours Sincerely,
Mr. Tommy Smith
YOURKSHIRE WORLD INC.
+44 70457 09491

 :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D ;D :D :D

Apart from the fact that Tommy can't spell Yorkshire, or Feltham for that matter, gives a false VAT number & company registration number...and lives in Hong Kong, it seems a great opportunity to me!! ;)

Funny thing is, you can't report this stuff to the police online. I wouldn't bother to phone them and it would be a hassle to queue up at the local nick, so Tommy is free to carry on. No use calling trading standards as this is clearly an international scam.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: KillerWatt on 15 September 2009, 22:40:51
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this?
Ignore the "from" field in the e-mail, anybody can put anything they want in there.

How you check the headers depends on your mail client, but in Outlook you simply right click on the message and select "Message Options" from the context menu.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 22:45:43
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this?
Ignore the "from" field in the e-mail, anybody can put anything they want in there.

How you check the headers depends on your mail client, but in Outlook you simply right click on the message and select "Message Options" from the context menu.

What about yahoo, as I tried that and did not get a message option :-/
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: KillerWatt on 15 September 2009, 22:48:06
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this?
Ignore the "from" field in the e-mail, anybody can put anything they want in there.

How you check the headers depends on your mail client, but in Outlook you simply right click on the message and select "Message Options" from the context menu.

What about yahoo, as I tried that and did not get a message option :-/
Right click on the message and select "View full headers"
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 23:02:25
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is this a common one?
Just as common as the old "you need to login to your bank account and confirm a few things because we detected fraud on your account"

I have had three allegedly from paypal, contacted them and was told iffy and asked me to send to paypal, which I did with the oters. Paypal confirmed that they were phishing emails.

What is meant by checking headers?

As in originating email address.

OK this is going to sound silly but where is this?
Ignore the "from" field in the e-mail, anybody can put anything they want in there.

How you check the headers depends on your mail client, but in Outlook you simply right click on the message and select "Message Options" from the context menu.

What about yahoo, as I tried that and did not get a message option :-/
Right click on the message and select "View full headers"

Found a 'view source' which simply showed dozens of lines of computer speak which it would not let me post on here, I could copy and paste but not post :)
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: dbug on 15 September 2009, 23:28:24
Below headers from a "spam" email sent to me (I'm not John by the way) - my email addy starred out.


Return-path: <mail@effort3.co.uk>
Envelope-to: ******************
Delivery-date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:09:54 +0100
Received: from [212.159.7.34] (helo=mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net)
           by fhw-inmx12.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1MnbXO-0000x7-7B
           for *************; Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:09:54 +0100
Authentication-Results: mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none
Received-SPF: None identity=pra; client-ip=66.235.180.227;
  receiver=mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net;
  envelope-from="mail@effort3.co.uk";
  x-sender="mail@effort3.co.uk";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=mailfrom; client-ip=66.235.180.227;
  receiver=mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net;
  envelope-from="mail@effort3.co.uk";
  x-sender="mail@effort3.co.uk";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
Received-SPF: None identity=helo; client-ip=66.235.180.227;
  receiver=mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net;
  envelope-from="mail@effort3.co.uk";
  x-sender="postmaster@effort3.co.uk";
  x-conformance=sidf_compatible
X-SBRS: 0.5
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqCkAL5nr0pC67TjaWdsb2JhbACBMiFXIwQFhg6RRIEjDQsKBRJVxBiEFwU
X-BV-Spam-Flag: Yes
X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5300,2777,5742"; a="174566059"
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,391,1249254000";
  d="scan'208,217";a="174566059"
Received: from unlim-miles2.co.uk (HELO effort3.co.uk) ([66.235.180.227])
  by mx.ptn-ipin02.plus.net with ESMTP; 15 Sep 2009 18:09:53 +0100
Reply-To: neopost@firestormltd.co.uk
From: "Neopost" <mail@effort3.co.uk>
To: *****************
Date: 15 Sep 2009 18:09:54 +0100
Message-ID: <20090915180953.55A8F09CE8171AB7@effort3.co.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html;
          charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
X-PN-Virus-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00)
X-PN-Spam-Filtered: by PlusNet MXCore (v5.00)


Subject: Re: last email


John, did you get this?

Best,
Dan
nothwestsales@neopost.co.uk
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 15 September 2009, 23:36:43
Tried again and got thi message from the forum;

You tried to use scripting in the url or form input, which is not allowed!

Never mind, just need to keep alert... :y
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 16 September 2009, 21:47:37
Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 September 2009, 22:40:16
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 16 September 2009, 22:52:34
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 September 2009, 22:56:43
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 16 September 2009, 22:58:39
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.

And Daz and Pete were poised to pounce.... :D :D :D
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 September 2009, 23:12:33
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.

And Daz and Pete were poised to pounce.... :D :D :D
I have it on good authority that the pink one is on the p*ss with his new caledonian paramour. Probably plotting to get me in more trouble. >:( >:(
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 16 September 2009, 23:19:13
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.

And Daz and Pete were poised to pounce.... :D :D :D
I have it on good authority that the pink one is on the p*ss with his new caledonian paramour. Probably plotting to get me in more trouble. >:( >:(

Details please... ::)
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: CaptainZok on 16 September 2009, 23:54:51
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.

And Daz and Pete were poised to pounce.... :D :D :D
I have it on good authority that the pink one is on the p*ss with his new caledonian paramour. Probably plotting to get me in more trouble. >:( >:(

Details please... ::)
Got a text from him earlier saying he was sat in a pub with a Confused Scotsman.
Title: Re: e-bay warning
Post by: Vamps on 16 September 2009, 23:56:52
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Had 2 more iffy emails, allegedly from paypal, sent them straight to paypal for confirmation ::) and noted that the content did not address me by name.... :)
Oops sorry did I forget that again.
Note to self address them Dear Vamps in future.
P.S.You still haven't sent me my contact in Nigeria the £5000 for the documents to release the $110000000 eleven million us dollars he has in trust for you yet.


I did  :o and you signed the receipt for delivery, so where is my money ? was just thinking I was going to have to send the boys around..... :D :D :D
The post from Nigeria is terrible mate. Just keep waiting I'm sure it will turn up.

And Daz and Pete were poised to pounce.... :D :D :D
I have it on good authority that the pink one is on the p*ss with his new caledonian paramour. Probably plotting to get me in more trouble. >:( >:(

Details please... ::)
Got a text from him earlier saying he was sat in a pub with a Confused Scotsman.

Nothing unusual there then.... :D :D :D