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Title: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Nickbat on 17 September 2009, 09:54:45
Even unknowingly employing an illegal is an offence, punishable by a £10,000 fine, under legislation that Baroness Scotland helped steer through Parliament as a Home Office minister in 2006.

So now we find out that the Baroness (our Attorney General - the highest lawyer in the land) has herself been employing an illegal immigrant. :o

Question is: will she be prosecuted?

Hands up all those who say "No chance!".  ;)  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214010/Attorney-General-Baroness-Scotlands-housekeeper-illegal-immigrant.html#ixzz0RLtOeIPI
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Banjax on 17 September 2009, 10:39:05
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Even unknowingly employing an illegal is an offence, punishable by a £10,000 fine, under legislation that Baroness Scotland helped steer through Parliament as a Home Office minister in 2006.

So now we find out that the Baroness (our Attorney General - the highest lawyer in the land) has herself been employing an illegal immigrant. :o

Question is: will she be prosecuted?

Hands up all those who say "No chance!".  ;)  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214010/Attorney-General-Baroness-Scotlands-housekeeper-illegal-immigrant.html#ixzz0RLtOeIPI

storm in a teacup m8, obviously a mistake - an embarrassing one tho  :y

i know the tories wouldn't hire illegal workers to clean the moats  ::)
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Kevin Wood on 17 September 2009, 10:52:39
Can't see the problem. It was an "Honest mistake", she's owned up to it and sacked the worker so that's all right then. ;)

Just like accidentally claiming for a moat that's got break all to do with your job, or a mortgage that you forgot doesn't exist.

We all make mistakes and, whenif we're found out we can just make up an excuse and we're off the hook, can't we?

Yeah, right. I'll try that one with the Inland Revenue (anyone got an NI number I can borrow?). >:(

Kevin
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Banjax on 17 September 2009, 11:01:27
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Can't see the problem. It was an "Honest mistake", she's owned up to it and sacked the worker so that's all right then. ;)

Just like accidentally claiming for a moat that's got break all to do with your job, or a mortgage that you forgot doesn't exist.

We all make mistakes and, whenif we're found out we can just make up an excuse and we're off the hook, can't we?

Yeah, right. I'll try that one with the Inland Revenue (anyone got an NI number I can borrow?). >:(

Kevin

are you saying that standards in public life have slipped??? :o

it's hardly the worst crime in recent times tho - it's all a matter of perspective  8-)
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Nickbat on 17 September 2009, 11:31:58
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Can't see the problem. It was an "Honest mistake", she's owned up to it and sacked the worker so that's all right then. ;)

Just like accidentally claiming for a moat that's got break all to do with your job, or a mortgage that you forgot doesn't exist.

We all make mistakes and, whenif we're found out we can just make up an excuse and we're off the hook, can't we?

Yeah, right. I'll try that one with the Inland Revenue (anyone got an NI number I can borrow?). >:(

Kevin

are you saying that standards in public life have slipped??? :o

it's hardly the worst crime in recent times tho - it's all a matter of perspective  8-)

The point is that she pushed the somewhat draconian legislation through so, yes, it IS a big deal. She has committed a crime under her own law and should be prosecuted. It's not a question of interpretion (as in many but not all of the expense claims - even though many of the interpretations were, at best, grossly immoral) it is a clear-cut transgression of a law - her law.. >:( >:(
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Nickbat on 17 September 2009, 12:38:42
Downing St said Gordon Brown had "full confidence" in Baroness Scotland who says she hired Ms Tapui in "good faith" and thought she was entitled to work.

If Jonah Brown has full confidence in her, I'd say she's finished.  ;) ;D ;D

As far as "good faith" is concerned, that's how we used to behave before NuLabour came along. They have introduced all sorts of legislation to make sure no-one can dodge the law. In this case, there is only one statutory defence against conviction for employing an illegal worker under section 8 of the Asylum and Immigration Act 1996 – the act specifies that you get this defence only by checking and copying certain original documents belonging to your employee.

 ::) ::)
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 September 2009, 14:32:48
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Even unknowingly employing an illegal is an offence, punishable by a £10,000 fine, under legislation that Baroness Scotland helped steer through Parliament as a Home Office minister in 2006.

So now we find out that the Baroness (our Attorney General - the highest lawyer in the land) has herself been employing an illegal immigrant. :o

Question is: will she be prosecuted?

Hands up all those who say "No chance!".  ;)  ::)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1214010/Attorney-General-Baroness-Scotlands-housekeeper-illegal-immigrant.html#ixzz0RLtOeIPI

storm in a teacup m8, obviously a mistake - an embarrassing one tho  :y

i know the tories wouldn't hire illegal workers to clean the moats  ::)


Why hire an illegal when One has so many minions from whom to choose - really bj ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Dishevelled Den on 17 September 2009, 14:38:41
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Can't see the problem. It was an "Honest mistake", she's owned up to it and sacked the worker so that's all right then. ;)

Just like accidentally claiming for a moat that's got break all to do with your job, or a mortgage that you forgot doesn't exist.

We all make mistakes and, whenif we're found out we can just make up an excuse and we're off the hook, can't we?

Yeah, right. I'll try that one with the Inland Revenue (anyone got an NI number I can borrow?). >:(

Kevin

are you saying that standards in public life have slipped??? :o

it's hardly the worst crime in recent times tho - it's all a matter of perspective  8-)


...jesting aside bj, it goes to everything that's putrid about this current administration - the double standards, rank hypocrisy and sheer incompetence to name but a few (hundred) things [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif] [smiley=thumbdown.gif]
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: HolyCount on 17 September 2009, 15:54:47
Sorry -- but "Joe" down the chippie would be done for the same thing so Lady Scotland should too.

Her title and status is an honour bestowed and should set her up as an example, not act as some sort of shield.
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: sassanach on 17 September 2009, 17:18:18
as a small business i would just like to point out that if "i" had employed an illegal alien,i would be fined loads whilst being told that ignorance is no excuse.welcome to zanu-liebour's brave new woirld.c@@ts >:(
Title: Re: One rule for us, one for them?
Post by: Nickbat on 17 September 2009, 18:02:44
"Immigration officials launched an investigation today into revelations that the Attorney General, Baroness Scotland, employed an illegal migrant...

..A spokesman for the UK Border Agency said: "The UK Border Agency will conduct this investigation as they would any other investigation into allegations of illegal working."

Let's hope so. :y

Shadow home secretary Chris Grayling said.."There is a real 'one rule for them, one rule for us' attitude at the heart of this Government.

Did he get that from my thread title? Cheek!  ;)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/probe-into-law-chiefs-illegal-worker-1789070.html